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Edwards hasn't played better than Favre? Are you kidding me?
So Favre played against a pretty good Patriots D.... Edwards played against TWO top 5 defenses and completed 70% of his passes with a 107.7 QB rating.
Edwards has NOT played against 2 top 5 defenses.
As it stands now (and subject to change during the year):
The Seahawks defense is horrible - they rank 29th in points and 25th in yards
The Jags are 11th in points and 13th in yards.
Granted, the Jags are not a shabby defense, but a top 5? No.
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If you're not going to be logical, could you at least be funny? Or are those lost commodities in Alabammy?
I wasn't trying to be funny.
The team has no sense of direction, coaches are taking verbal shots at each other in public, and the loony owner is trying force the resignation of his head coach.
Raiders are a joke. Period.
Right now, I think one of the High Schools from Hoover, Al. could whip the
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Sorry to interrupt your insane self love on this out of touch board. The Jills will be 2-1 after Sunday. When will that former Redskin be 'honored' in that dump you call a stadium? Are they going to bring over all of those names to Toronto when your crappy city goes belly up? You're lucky Fargas isn't playing or the score would be much, much more lopsided in the Raiders' favor. I'll be here all week folks...
I'll consider the Raiders as an NFL team when Al figures out who the coach will be.
Once he figures that out, we will have to wait another five years before the Raiders can be taken seriously.
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Sorry to interrupt your insane self love on this out of touch board. The Jills will be 2-1 after Sunday. When will that former Redskin be 'honored' in that dump you call a stadium? Are they going to bring over all of those names to Toronto when your crappy city goes belly up? You're lucky Fargas isn't playing or the score would be much, much more lopsided in the Raiders' favor. I'll be here all week folks...
I'll consider the Raiders as an NFL team when Al figures out who the coach will be.
Once he figures that out, we will have to wait another five years before the Raiders can be taken seriously.
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Exactly. I simply maintain that it is too early to declare victory at least until a Jauron team makes the playoffs. However, what I am giving folks a chance (if they are football knowlegable enough to take it) to do is declare defeat on the notion several folks offered that Jauron was a bad hire doomed to failure as demonstrated by their interpretation of his past record.
While looking at the past will not always predict the future, analyzing past performance does reveal trends and tendencies, especially those tendencies taken to correct problems that appear before, during, and after a season.
I think in 2+ years (not a mere 2 games) of improved performance in the ultimate stat, Ws, underlying activities like hiring and keeping good coaches (Jewell, April, and now it appears Schonert after hiring a clunker in Fairchild),In an eerily similar situation in Chicago after the 2000 season, after 2 losing seasons, the OC quits the team to take on a college HC position. Jauron promotes the QB coach to OC. History shows how well that turned out.
Considering DJ did not interview even one outsider for the Bills OC spot (after Fairchild left for a HC position at a college), is the promotion of the Turk to the OC based on Jauron's ability to properly assess the needs of the OC spot, or he did just essentially pick the QB coach because that is what he is comfortable with doing?
'...overall with Marv righting the ship of state after nothing less than a horrendous ending to the TD/MM era (it was bad because not only did this team lose into the double digit in games but with the demotion of Clements and the suspension of Moulds things were not only bad (5-11) but in fact the manner it happened was nothing less than horrendous, Jauron oversaw a very impressive turnaround.One should be able to both see that it is to early to declare victory (I know this fan will not be happy with my Bills until we make the playoffs) but that one can declare defeat of an argument which some made that Jauron was a bad hire who had never done anything positive.
And despite the "horrendous" ending of the TD/MM era, Levy attempted to retain MM. That brings into question just how "dire" the state of the Bills organization was in that you attempt to promote.
Further, if Bledsoe was not stymied by a bunch of defensive third stringers, the Bills would have made the playoffs under Mularkey. Would this have proved Mularkey was not a bad hire?
One should be able to see that the opposite of declaring victory would be to declare defeat of the notion that Jauron is a Bill Parcells. Jauron is not a Parcellian HC.The defeat I declare is that of the notion that Jauron was a bad hire at the level of a Rich Kotite.
Though Jauron has not proven he is a football god he had proven he is not a stiff.
This was the contention that some seemed to want to make based on their assessment of his past record.
From their initial willingness to simply disregard his Coach of the Year success as either dumb luck or really other people's work to their unwillingness to see that he actually did some good work with a really bad franchise in Detroit (the smartest thing he did was to get out of Detroit as quickly as he could).
As it has been shown repeatedly, other coaches of questionable ability have also won Coach of The Year. Being a winner of the COTY proves nothing other than he won an award.
And he did not willing leave Detroit, he was FIRED.
Declaring him Lombardi then (and even now based on his record) would be wrong. All I am saying is that declaring him Rich Kotite was wrong also and though his record of rebuilding the team nicely so far after 2+ years is not enough to declare victory it is enough to see that the early predictions of DDDOOOMMMM were wrong.I would think folks who want their sage wisdom to be respected on TSW would welcome the opportunity as Bill fans and as TSW denizens to admit they were wrong.
Previously in this thread, I declared my three benchmarks.
I set those benchmarks for a reason.
My desire is to see the Bills become a SB contender every year. Not just once every "x" years.
I will not accept playoff contender as "success", especially a coach/team that can only achieve it once every 'x' years.
Maybe my standards are just too high.
But I have seen people post here who are willing to accept Jauron back as a HC even if the Bills go 7-9 again, and that boggles my mind.
Are people so desperate for "success", or any semblance of success, they will talk themselves into accepting failure because they found something positive in it?
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I feel good that I never ragged on him like some who have loudly claimed that he brings nothing to the HC job or they have claimed his Coach of the Year honor was an aberration. However, though I have been supportive of Jauron, I must admit I had my doubts.
Until proven otherwise, it is still an aberration. As of right now, Jauron has coached a team to ONE winning season in seven. Even if he coaches this team to a winning record this season (he should, given the pretty soft schedule the Bills have been handed), that still makes him 2 out of 8.
However, though is still to early to bow down and yell we are not worthy (he has to lead the team to the playoffs and actually deep into the playoffs before he deserves that) I think that the way the game played out to day and after two seasons I think any reasonable person who claims to know football needs to be impressed with what he has led the team to at this point.Again, it ain't over til its over and the proof still needs to be in the pudding of making the playoffs before a full throated hosanna is justified. However, I think those who have taken the time publicly to decry Jauron or to offer up his previous achievements as being meaningless should be willing to publicly state that their past rants appear to be wrong.
:lol: Oh, wait. you were being serious.We should completely forget his past discretions, because he won TWO games this year?
To date, I think Jauron honestly deserves a lot of credit and a smart person should be willing to acknowledge:1. The simple fact is he took over a 5-11 teams and produced a 7-9 record with them. It is not an undoable thing to oversee improved individual performances on an unproductive team, but the simple fact is they only were inadequate in terms of results his first year but they improved from horrendous to inadequate and a person with any football knowledge should see that.
In fact, the improvement in record coincided with a clear change in attitude from the hubub of the end of the TD reign of error and Marv also deserves plaudits for overseeing a draft which not only produced starters from second day picks but these starters produced an improved record under Jauron.
The record improvement coincided with other measurables of better game control and decision making like beginning to build a quality record of winning ref challenges.
Wow. I see a bunch of assumptions being made with no real supportive data.
How were the Bills "horrendous" that led them to 5-11 record?
The only data you presented to support your conclusion of "better game control and decision making" is his winning record of ref challenges.
You better have more than that. Many posters on this board were pretty pissed off at the way Jauron at times would allow his team to take a knee to end the first half without attempting to generate a point of somekind.
2. One could easily become so focused on the stats that the production of yet another inadequate 7-9 record could be judged as the team not improving from a level of inadequacy. Yet, the simple fact again is that this team led the NFL in players on the IR and they STILL managed to produce the same record. The team is clearly working with and off of what the TD reign of error left them, but the Bills again showed clear signs of taking the best and leaving the rest as the team not only made big moves getting rid of highly promoted team leaders like Fletch, former Pro Bowler TKO and the deserving of praise for coming back from a devastating collegiate injury but still clearly an idiot McGahee.The actual events gave every sign of making recitations of Jauron's past spotty record with the troubled Bears and bad record with the bad Lions look more suspect than a sense of Jauron being an honestly indictable failure.
Jauron's past spotty record includes waiving the previous season's starting QB and declaring the newly drafted rookie QB the teams starter:
1. days before training camp actually started
2. said rookie QB was NOT even signed yet.
What brilliance.
3. Its way too early to declare victory with the impressive 2-0 record and eminently winnable next 3 games we face. However, it is not too early for those who were so bold as to declare Jauron a clear bad choice and a failure to begin to retract those remarks.While you realize you cannot declare victory, you want your opponents to declare defeat.
Priceless.
Today's game was a nail-biter always and downright bad as a Bills fan to watch as we got manhandled and outfoxed in the 3rd quarter. However, the final result showed the correctness in terms of producing results of the unflashy and often boring Jauron style of encouraging competition and hanging around and hanging around and then pouncing at the right moment.Jauron still has a lot to prove. He also clearly had some things he did not do well in his first two years. However, the biggest of those was he had never hired an OC who could make it work (we got so lucky Fairchild got promoted out of his OC job because my sense is that loyalty for his less than but close to adequate performance would have kept him here). However, though it is too early to draw final conclusions, I like the game Schonert calls and has designed (a big difference between Fairchild and Schonert is that the pass routes are designed in a manner which gets quick separation and takes advantage of the Evans/Parrish speed).
One hopes that the Schonert O will continue to grow and be productive and that Jauron will finally have found his offensive genii. When one can still play the conservative ball which Jauron does well and the offense is good enough to hang around and finally win on the road and to dust teams at home it will be very good.
Many of us hoped Jauron had it in him and the sign are clearly there that in fact he does have it in him. I hope that those who declared us DDOOOMMEEDDD will take this opportunity to not only hope that he does pass the test finally in the future and that they will apologize for publicly calling him out in the past. While he has not proven yet that he is a football king he has certainly given satisfactory proof that he did not deserve the negative conclusions some made about him.
Beautiful.
Jauron has a lot to prove, has done some bad things ....
However, two games into this season and it is obvious all past screw ups were actually "nothing".
Ask Bears fans if they felt the same way in 2001.
Jauron does have a lot prove.
He needs to prove he can win consistently against the better teams in the league.
He needs to prove he can win consistently from season to season.
He needs to prove he can actually win a playoff game.
Until he reaches those benchmarks, Jauron has proven he is nothing more than an mediocre HC.
7 years of futility will not be washed away by 2 games in a soft season.
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They will most certainly extend the contract BEFORE the end of the season. I doubt, if this doesn't get done by the end of the year, that DJ will be back as the Bills' HC.
I was responding to the poster who tried to claim DJ was just as good, if not better, than Marv Levy.
As for extending DJ's contract, I would prefer the Bills wait until a playoff spot and/or winning season (9-7 or better) is assured.
If Dick cannot produce a winner with this soft schedule, he needs to be taken out back and shot. (and no, I do not mean that literally).
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No, not comparing the players from the two teams. Merely suggesting that our players are getting better on today's team. However, Dick seems to be as good or better than Marv who for the most part came into a much better group of players
Oh please, stop.
Jauron has yet to prove he can consistently beat the better teams in the league.
Jauron has yet to prove he can win consistently from season to season.
Jauron has yet to prove he can win a playoff game.
When Jauron accomplishes those tasks, we'll talk. Otherwise, put down the crack pipe.
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Actually, the present front office is 2-0. Marv left after two 7-9 seasons that were rebuilding years. Just like most great architects, Marv then left and let the inhabitants enjoy his finished product. Brandon & staff put the finishing touches on Marv's work with Stroud, Sp Johnson & Mitchell. Great teams can usually look at a draft or two that brought the team to greatness. The 2006 & 2007 drafts with Marv's input may go down among the best in Bills' history. In 2006 they got 4 current starters on day 2. In 2007 they got 3 potenial Pro Bowlers on day 1.
Spin it however you want. The Bills have NOT achieved any greatness this year, last year, the year before that, etc ...
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The whole no-playoffs-since-1999 thing is a load of crap. This is a MUCH different front office. One of the only teams where that argument would be valid is with the Lions.
You are right. This present front office has gone 14-18 the past two seasons. If you include this year, they are still 16-18.
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I read about that. I think I have the game on DVR, I'm interested to see how that went down. Auburn wasn't supposed to be a power offense this year, but 3 points against Miss? Strange.
I watched the second half of that game. It had to be the two worst offenses I have ever seen. The 2007 Bills offense would have been an improvement for either team.
Auburns version of the spread option (a.k.a "War Damn Chicken") turns out is just as good as Borges WCO. Some Barners are denial, claiming it will take awhile for the full offense to be implemented. Interesting spin considering the Spread Option is supposed to be one of the EASIEST offenses to learn (Hint: You have to have TALENT, which AU is lacking on the offensive side of the ball). The most telling sign was Auburn had the ball 1st down and goal at the MSU 7, and tried to run three straight running plays. They never had a chance. They even missed the field goal attempt.
As bad as Auburn's offense was, MSU was even worse. The MSU QB played scared. He made bad decisions, poor throws, and just looked like he was in a state of panic anytime he dropped back to pass.
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I think there are a couple of reasons the media types don't pay much attention to the bills.
1. They have no players at the most visible positions (QB, RB, WR) that stand out for good or bad.
2. They haven't made the playoffs for a long time. so every automatically assumes at the beginning of the end that they are not that good.
3. They are in a small market. Radio and TV is a business and they have to appeal to the mass market therefore the smaller market teams are not going to be covered as much.
That's it in a nutshell. Until the Bills prove they are for real CONSISTENTLY (i.e more than just a handful of games a season), keep expecting to receive "no respect". As someone else said. Why do people even bother looking for stupid
like this.As long the Bills keep winning, it will come.
Otherwise, let it roll, and enjoy.
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Using 97rock.com feed and the commercial breaks are 7 minutes long which is screwing up my Tivo synch. Need to hear Murphy in California. Any other feed around? Nfl.com?
http://www.wedg.com/default.asp
WARNING: They seem to be a few seconds behind.
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I know, this is F'n Bullsh.. I passed a gas station (here in Charlotte) this morning and gas was 3.69. In the afternoon it was 4.29. Long lines everywhere. I paid $4.09 close to my house and just had to wait for 1 person in front of me. The thing that gets me is that the gas has already been paid for, so the stations are just gauging. Crude oil has not been lower since April. When a barrel of oil goes UP, gas prices go UP. But when oil goes DOWN, the price of gas doesn't respond at the same rate!!! THIS IS F"N BULLSH... The american public is literally being "bent over the barrel" and something has to be done about it. Speculators raise the price of oil based on disruptions of supply so the price increases YET DISRUPTIONS IN THE SUPPLY NEVER OCCUR. More Bull
.The other problem which SHOULD BE NONEXISTANT is refining capacity. We haven't built a refinery in this country in 30 years. We know we need them, but all of the tree huggers insist "not in my backyard". On a daily basis,we do not refine enough crude oil into gasoline to meet that 1 days supply in this country. We actually import 15 million barrels of gasoline a day to meet our demand. I think that is outrageous for a supposed 1st world superpower. (1)Let's build some refineries, (2)drill for oil here, (3)build more nuclear power plants, (4)find a way to reduce our dependency on oil, AND STOP (5)ALLOWING BIG OIL TO
us in the !!!Country has "x" amount of resources.
We do 1 and 2, we will never do 4, and you might as well get used to 5.
Instead of doing 1 and 2, let's bite the bullet now, and do 3 and 4. Then 5 will be a rarity.
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Good God.
The high insecurity level of some Buffalonians is astounding.
Combined with their never ending need to have their team "validated" by the national media ....
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The comments are fine among friends but when you say them to the medial, its a whole different situation
Like somebody would not be able to recognize the Q&A was meant to be "light" considering such blistering topics as "On his iPod" and "Can't stop eating".
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Completely agree. The Bills as a team and a coaching staff played even better than I thought they would against a solid team. And the fact that the Seahawks had a couple of injuries doesn't lessen what Buffalo did to them. The offense was not predictable. I think we may have thrown on more first downs in this game than we did all last season. But seriously, those people who said that Jauron was a terrible coach are finding out that if he is given the right talent he can make things happen. eball is right on with that comment.
I bet Bears fans in Chicago were saying the same thing in 2001.
Bottom line: it is one game in a season that is looking like the ball will be bouncing the Bills way.
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I predicted the Bills will be 5-0 at the bye......... Are you still laughing?
I also predicted Buffalo would win the AFC EAST....... How impossible does that sound now?
I told you Peters would report at the last possible date without sacrificing a game check......... Was there really any doubt?
Some of you called me a big homer, and I needed stop the foolishness......really, was I really being a homer or are you just a tad negative?
Sure it only one game but things are looking pretty good!
WHAT A GREAT DAY TO BE A HOMER.....SEE YOU NEXT WEEK AFTER THE BILLS BEAT JACKSONVILLE (lol)
You can either join me......or regret it later!
Its your choice! (lol)
Even a blind squirrel finds a nut.
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Your point?
If you think there is every reason to believe Jauron should get ten wins, then why in the world would you be in favor of keeping somebody who under performs?
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because we have a young team and he's a good teacher? i dont know
i think we are all well aware of the millions of variables and different factors that make up the final win-loss record.
basing his job security simply on the number of wins, right now, isnt even really worth discussing
It is not? Funny, during the offseason, I could have sworn I read / heard where Jauron said this was a performance based business, even for him. That meant playoffs. In fact, he mentioned the word "playoffs".
Hold him to his word. Excuse time is over: a non-playoff season is unacceptable, and should result in his immediate firing.
If he cannot lead this team to at least a winning record (9-7 or better) with this soft schedule, then he has no damn business being a head coach.
Unfortunately, I think if the Bills go 8-8, Jauron will blow enough smoke up Ralphs a$$ to keep his job. The Jauron apologists will be out in force trying explain to everybody how it is not Dicks fault, because the tooth fairy was out to "get" Dick.
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I think that once you report to camp and practice, you cannot be put on the PUP list, although I believe there are two of them.
So, if I read that correctly:
There is only one "PUP" list. Before and during TC, it is an "active" list.
Once the 53 man roster is set, it becomes a "reserve" list.
And in order to be on the reserve list, the player must have been on the active list.
Well, that sucks, and you are right. It still would not have mattered in Crowell's case.
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Stated for the 3rd time (albeit in different language), if he hadn't had the surgery yet and was seeking a second opinion and could still play and contribute, why would they place him on I.R.?
As stated before, they could have simply said "Angelo, if you have the surgery we will I.R. you. It's your choice."
Something else I have not seen asked;
Could not the Bills put AC on the PUP list? That would have sidelined AC for 6 weeks, and gave the Bills a roster spot.
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I just crack backed my secretary. She does not seem to be moving. I warned everyone "head on a swivel during opening week."
The pain train is coming!
WHOO WHOO!!
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As a Raider, Culpepper lead Oakland to a victory over the Phins. His overall stats were bad, but he did manage to throw 2 TD's, and ran for 3 more for a total of 5 TD's.
Evans' Contract Status
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Personally, I think this WAY overblown by the JP Losman haters / Trent Edward lovers. In fact, many of them wanted to run Evans off the team, because he had the audacity to stick up for JP and the way he was being treated.