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  1. 4 hours ago, Nelius said:

     

     It's actually Route 39, and I'm speaking specifically of the view across Lake Erie just as you come out of Forestville heading west, about a mile or so past "Sheridan HIll". It's pretty high up by Western NY standards and you can definitely see something. 

     

    Shhh.

    It's Area 52.

  2. 5 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

     

    Maybe he is thinking this team is the death of QBs and maybe I want to sit out a year and apply to draft again.

     

    Immensely unlikely.

    Same thing happened with Darnold and others.

    Jets and their top picks seem to have issues with bonus payouts and other last minute minute details.

    I'm sure it will get done quickly and he'll be in camp really soon.

  3. I wasn't going to comment in here, but....Oh well.

     

    The standard formula for line of sight, which solves at what distance one can see things at the same level and not be impeded by the earth's curvature is:

    1.22 times the square route of altitude.

    It's what is used in strike planning to avoid radar detection.

     

    If comparing two items at different elevations, such as when determining if the top of two buildings can be seen by each other is:

     

    D (distance)= (square route of 2h) + (square route of 2a). Expressed in statute miles.

     

    h is the object which is "looking" at expressed in feet.

    a is the object you are trying to look at expressed in feet.

     

    D is expressed in statue miles, height of h and a in feet.

     

    Earth elevation differences should be taken into account as well.

     

    Further reduced, this formula is:

    D= 1.414 x ( square route of h) + (square route of a).

  4. 7 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:


    Nobody said he was a servant. The Bills gave him a chance and the fans embraced him. I just feel like it was a selfish move by him. He can go play for the Chargers then.

     

    He signed with the Rams.

    People have no idea of family situations or other factors that cause career decisions, but in the long term, it is in the organization's interest to accommodate a player/coach friendly posture.

    Lures free agents and coaches.

     

    No problem.

    We'll find another.

  5. Also space related.

    If any interested in astronomy, Saturn has been really bright overnight.

    I was able to see the rings using my Celestron binoculars overnight.

    Tonight I'll use the telescope for a much better view.

     

  6. On 7/18/2021 at 2:56 PM, Buffalo716 said:

     

    WNY still has a total population of over 2 million people.. larger than some states

     

     

    None of those states have an NFL franchise.

    DC is smaller, but they are a three state franchise and a much, much bigger market than Buffalo.

    Though I haven't lived there since college, I love my hometown and the passion of it's fanbase, but it can't compete with a place like Miami for free agents, not in the demographic of NFL players.

    I despise Miami, but it is what it is.

     

  7. 30 minutes ago, unbillievable said:

    At what altitude will the pressure equalize enough to open the door?

    I'm guessing 10k feet. That seems to be the altitude they use the most in movies. 

     

     

     

    No.

    There is a pressure differential until the weight is on the gear.

    Once that happens, the airplane knows it is on the ground and opens the outflow valve, reducing the psi differential to zero.

    Only then can the doors be opened.

    It also pre-pressurizes to a small degree on takeoff.

     

    A few other things as this thing winds down.

    Regarding this specific event, if someone messes with a door, depending on what they do, there will be an alert message in the cockpit. A screen will pop up showing which door is not safely latched. Depending on a number of things, and how that alert is judged, could cause a number of other actions.

    Second, airline crews are taught to never assume that one event in the cabin is a solo event involving one person.

    One misbehaving passenger is not assumed to be the only thing going on.

     

     

     

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  8. 12 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

    Unless cabin pressure is lost. 

     

    What?

    The door is opened on every single flight.

     

    That's how the good folks get out.

    Airplane pulls up to the gate.

    Gate agent pulls the jet bridge up.

    Flight attendants disarm the slides at each slide equipped door.

    Agent bangs on the front door to indicate bridge is in place.

    Flight attendant signals with thumbs up through the window.

    Agent opens the door from the outside, which is way easier than doing it from the inside.

     

    On landing, without going into boring detail, the cabin depressurizes. It actually does this gradually as part of the descent schedule so you don't blow heads off when you land.

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  9. 14 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

     

    The door won't open in flight because of the design of the door.

     

    Pressure hull aircraft doors are designed as plug doors - the door is actually larger than the fuselage opening.  So it has to swing IN first, then rotate in some dimension (sideways or up) to swing through the smaller fuselage opening.  

     

    That was completely covered in a post 10 hours ago.

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  10. Here is a direct quote from the union website.

    Again, not from me.

     

    "I happen to know the FO on this flight very very well 🙄

    There is a lot more to the story that isn't being reported. This case in particular was much more a mental health situation than it was a simple ornery passenger from our Group Nine Flying Club. The FAs (#1 in particular) did an outstanding job
    ."

     

    Just to explain how this stuff happens, after 9-11, law enforcement the FAA and industry reps got together to form policy/procedures to respond to various levels of passenger misconduct. As one climbs the bad behavior ladder, based on very specific behavior, stronger responses can occur. They don't have to, but they can.

    Very specific training is conducted on this issue.

    This lunatic lady did at least two things I'm aware of that cause her to be in the top category.

    If this woman wasn't restrained, it is quite likely something worse could have occurred.

  11. 46 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

    Then what are we worried about with regards to the door?  

     

    Maybe she calms down without all the needless duct tape. Go up to the door and say: "SEE crazy lady, it's impossible, the pressure is too great on the inside."  ...And begin to fiddle with the door seal (which of course is against the law for a reason... 😏) 😆

     

    Let's call it like it is. She was subdued for her own safety and the immediate safety of others,  NOT the safety of the plane in flight.  She won't crash the plane,  we just don't want a crazy lady running around the cabin so we duct taped her down.

     

    I don't think you get this, just as you didn't get the stinky passenger thing or the cancellation because a group of kids refused to wear masks, insulted flight attendants and refused to cease playing profane music when requested.

     

    This woman attacked a flight attendant and was messing with the door.

    You don't try to operate a door, whether the primary entry doors, over wing hatches or the cockpit just as you don't mess with fire extinguishers, emergency O2 masks stowed overhead, or various things in the restrooms that you don't need.

    If you try to damage something you are going to be restrained, and for good reason.

     

    These people are not stupid and they train for these events at every recurrent training cycle as well as get constant updates on these kinds of things all the time. You may have an "opinion," and that's your business. They kind of know what they're doing and having anyone out of control on an aircraft is going to get responded to and hopefully before the passengers respond because that's how things get out of control.

    Let professional mental health people on the ground judge her mental state later.

    While she was not going to able to open a door inflight, she could certainly damage it or the emergency slide inside.

    You don't walk into a restaurant or movie theater and start messing around with things that don't concern you an are not your property, and you certainly are not going to be permitted to do that on an airliner. 

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  12. 7 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

    So one CAN open the door without being a 2000 pound strongman. Just depressurize the cabin first... Or slowly start equalizing the pressure to free the mechanism/latch. Probably why they didn't want her working on that door.  LoL... Never say it can't be done. 😉

     

     

     

    How are you going to depressurize the cabin?

     

    No chance she was going to get the door opened.

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  13. 9 hours ago, unbillievable said:

     

    I always wondered about that, since interior pressure would be greater, I assumed it would aid in opening the door.

    ...but apparently it has to do with the plane fuselage changing shape. Which is even scarier.

     

     

     

     

     

    Not to worry. It isn't scary, they are cleverly designed.

    Cabin doors, unlike cargo doors are "plug" type doors.

    Think of you sink or tub plugs. 

    To remove, they must be pulled in first.

    Ultimately they swing out, but the first movement must be in, so the cabin pressure prevents this. Of course they are latched as well, by the big handle.

    Because they are so heavy, is a hydraulic assist that makes it easier.

     

    Got to thinking about it and did the math.

    At cruise it would take about 25,000 pounds to open the door.

    Aint happenin'.

    Less closer to the ground, but very significant.

     

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  14. 4 hours ago, Tiberius said:

    When the people are not allowed to vote the country goes to crap while the rich elite spew propaganda and party it up. 

     

    Venezuelans are allowed to vote.

    How has that worked?

  15. 3 minutes ago, WhoTom said:

     

    That's good to know. I was wondering why there wasn't some kind of safety lock-out mechanism to prevent unauthorized access. Apparently there's no need.

     

    Actually, you don't want to deny access to opening the door.

    If something happens and you need to evacuate, it is desirable that the door works no matter who operates it.

    During normal operations, on takeoff and landing a flight attendant sits at a jumpseat next to the door he/she is responsible for. There are two operation to it. One is making sure it is closed with that big lever, and the other is arming the escape slide.

    If something happens and someone opens it with the escape slide armed, which it always is

    after starting taxi and until gate arrival, the slide is going to blow.

     

  16.  

    I added to the DB Cooper thing. That airplane was unpressurized, per his insistence.

    To answer your question, once the cabin is depressurized, the doors will open, if other issues are resolved, which I won't go into.

    Two examples.

    An Airbus took off from Miami, had some sort of engine problem resulting in smoke.

    On landing, because certain responses to the emergency caused certain systems to be unpowered, the airplane remained pressurized.

    After shutting down the remaining engine at the gate, the airplane started depressurizing, reaching a point where a strong male flight attendant was able to open a door. He did so thinking that the still existing smoke was an issue. 

    Eventually pumped up on adrenaline, he got a door open. the resulting force blew him out of the airplane and he fell 18' do his death.

     

    Another story. Muslims do the Hajj thing.

    An L-1011 carrying a full load to the Hajj had a full flight of pax that don't do air travel.

    A few of them brought sterno type things and started cooking in the cabin. A fire ensued.

    The airplane landed still pressurized and folks were unable to open the doors.

    Nobody figure it out and everyone died in the fire.

  17. 13 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

    Then let he have at it.  Nothing to worry about. 😏

     

    How did DB Cooper? Maybe it was the back door and it takes a lot less.

     

    Cooper went out the rear door on a 727, and leads to an unpressurized tail section.

    He also insisted the airplane remain unpressurized.

    Wouldn't have worked if pressurized.

    Completely different situation.

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  18. 1 hour ago, dpberr said:

     If the crew gets reprimanded for anything in this particular situation, it's going to be that detail.  

     

    Won't happen.

    Attempting to open a door in flight is an attempt to take down the airplane.

    Any force, including lethal, is authorized.

    Aside, flight attendants go through recurrent training on a regular basis, and are trained in this type of thing, thus their actions.

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