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2 hours ago, jrober38 said:
Allen had the lowest drop rate of all the QBs in the draft.
His adjusted completion percentage (takes away drops and throw aways) was far and away the worst of all the top QBs in the draft.
And how many other Wyoming players are expected to be drafted?
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AJ. If he stinks up the place, Josh will come in after the bye.
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And the pass catchers? It helps to have them actually catch the ball. If they don't, it reflects on the QB's stats.
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I don't see a complete analysis of Wyoming's offense in these tweets, so people will assume it's all Josh Allen's fault. He will not be our Day 1 starter, so people need to relax.
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Bring him back for a one-year deal this year, sign him for a two- or three-year deal next offseason. Good experienced backup.
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11 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:
Nah. We've been through this before. "Tank" should really be reserved for Browns/76ers/Astros type strategies - tearing the team completely apart with the intention of being the worst team in the league and stockpiling draft picks. This is good old fashioned "rebuilding."
Of that I have no doubt. The trouble is that too many fans complain when we do too well and make the playoffs.
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30 minutes ago, HappyDays said:
Eh I think if he's better than half of them that would be enough. Would I bet on that? Nope. Beane's job is on the line with this selection, that's for sure.
You absolutely cannot say this with certainty yet.
I feel confident in my statement.
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We made the playoffs with Tyrod Taylor last year. Now we have better throwers in the QB room, and people are complaining.
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I think "throwaway" is the new "tank."
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11 minutes ago, foreboding said:
Monkey off our backs - check, so now we can focus on proper team construction.
1. So the Bills drafted a high ceiling QB who needs a year to develop. I like him and think he has what it takes.
2. They also drafted a fast but thin LB who needs to put on some bulk and learn to drive through his tackles, who as he ages is going to get better.
3. They also preserved next years one, which I think clearly shows they know that rationally this is a 5-7 win team and it will be a nice pick. They also have a ton of cash next year.
4. I think next year starts the ascension, when these many young players get better, the FA market becomes viable to quickly improve the team and coach further takes this team his way.
I think we have a plan for once, not just reacting like Doug did and I am OK with this. I am more encouraged by this team than I have in a long time, smart guys are in charge.
Edmunds is listed at 6-5, 253, and he's thin?
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4 minutes ago, xsoldier54 said:
Did you not watch the draft? NO way either Allen or Rosen would have been there at 12 and I don't want Lamar Jackson. Arizona traded up to 10 to get Rosen and if we didn't take Allen, somebody else would have, probably Miami.
Yes, I watched the draft. I'm just not convinced that any of these QBs were the kind you trade up for. You trade up for guys that you know can and will start Week 1 (Manning, Manning, or Luck). There are none in this draft.
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Just now, mykidsdad said:
I'm not a Josh Allen hater. I just think Rosen is a much better option. I hope I'm wrong. But I'm disappointed. I love that Rosen wants to make us pay. That kind of fire and honesty would be refreshing, but I'm afraid what I liked about Rosen (his edge) is what kept the Bills from drafting him. Again, I don't hate Allen as a pick, but I would have loved Rosen. Fingers crossed that I'm wrong, and the Bills did the right thing.
Allen wants to make 9 teams pay, but is that really what you want your young franchise QB to be concerned with? He needs to focus more on his teammates, the playbook, and getting on the field for meaningful plays first.
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1 minute ago, Wayne Arnold said:
Bills could have stayed at 12 and still drafted him and would have had two second-round picks tonight. I still would have hated the choice but it would have been much less reckless.
I think Beane was trying to protect the Bills from any other team thinking about trading ahead of them. Allen wasn't my first choice, either, but apparently, he's the guy.
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3 minutes ago, xsoldier54 said:
Bills fans are pathetic. We made the playoffs last year when everyone said we were "tanking". I expect this team to be even better than last year.
Couldn't agree more. I did not want to trade up, but Beane did, twice, and they got the two most important positions for us in this draft. Flesh out the depth with rest of the picks, and we'll be fine.
This team was not supposed to go 9-7 and make the playoffs, but it did, and fans who wanted the Bills to tank still whined.
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11 minutes ago, Wsam4031 said:
2016 most sacked qbs. We built up this team everywhere except qb for the last 20 years and have won nothing. We need a top flight qb and the best way to get that is at the top of the draft. Just because a qb gets sacked a lot doesn't mean he cant win
1 Russell Wilson Seattle Seahawks QB 47 2 Aaron Rodgers Green Bay Packers QB 45 2 Matt Ryan Atlanta Falcons QB 45 4 Tyrod Taylor Buffalo Bills QB 42 5 Andy Dalton Cincinnati Bengals QB 41 5 Andrew Luck Indianapolis Colts QB 41 7 Carson Palmer Arizona Cardinals QB 40 7 Matthew Stafford Detroit Lions QB 40
But it is hard to throw when you are on the turf.
13 minutes ago, Elite Poster said:Once again, you only have examples from 100 years ago. Do you visit a doctor who only practices medicine from the 80s?
Now tell me about the QBs who have played in a Superbowl and compare which round they were drafted in.
Playing in one and winning one are two different animals. I will give you that 1st-round QBs have the highest representation in the Super Bowl, but I don't want to trade up for one of the 1st-rounders in this draft. None of them are worth it. I'm not against drafting one in the 1st round, but I'll stay put at 12 and see who falls to that spot.
David Carr I believe was drafted in 2002, not the 80s.
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1 minute ago, Wsam4031 said:
you are ok with a possibility of a playoff game every year? Im not I want to be in every year and not be 1 and done. Id rather reach and fail then not try and be 9-7 every year for another 18 years
I'm Ok with building up the rest of the team and filling the other holes we have as well. There is not one QB in this draft we could trade up fore that would lead us to the playoffs this year.
Look at David Carr. How many playoff games did he lead Houston to while averaging 40 sacks a year behind horrible offensive lines?
2 minutes ago, Elite Poster said:You completely skipped over the fact that none of them were drafted this decade some this millennia. In no other field of work do you fall back on how things were done 30 years ago for how to run your current business.
You are wrong. Tell me how many 2nd and beyond QBs have won Superbowls the last ten years, go ahead, include Brady, the anomaly once in a century 6th round HOF QB.
Drew Brees, Russell Wilson, Nick Foles?
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1 hour ago, SouthNYfan said:
It's drastically different today.
I'm not even going to get into it, but if you think that the passing game today is not that much different that 35 years ago, then you really don't know how the game works.
The systems are different, but dropbacks are still dropbacks, slants are still slants, go routes are still go routes, and getting sacked is still getting sacked.
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1 hour ago, Wsam4031 said:
What non 1st round guy has had success with the bills? im in the boat of I want a franchise guy I don't want a taylor, or an ok guy to just get me to the playoffs. I want to be there every year competing for a title. Yes you can find a mid round guy who beats the odds and gives us that but the highest chance of that happening is to draft one as high as you can
I'm OK with that, as long as your pick has a decent value at the spot where you draft him. I don't want to see us reach for a QB just because we need a QB.
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On 4/4/2018 at 10:53 AM, Wsam4031 said:
No you definitely don't have to draft one early ion the first round but when you do you increase your chances of getting a franchise qb. Look at the numbers and percentage of success rate and high first round qbs are a lot better than a flier on a 3rd -6th rd qb
qbs bills drafted not in the top 10 since Kelley
Collins rd 2
Jp rd 1
Edwards rd 3
Levi Brown rd 7
ej rd 1
cardale rd 4
Peterman rd 5
We have picked all over the place except top 10 and haven't hit yet
But look at the non-first-round quarterbacks who have at least made it to the playoffs-something we've been able to do only this year-with Tyrod Taylor as a QB.
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On 3/18/2018 at 6:49 PM, SouthNYfan said:
35 years ago isn't today's NFL
Quarterbacking isn't that much different today. To quote Phil Simms-95% of the quarterback's job is throwing the football.
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I'm staying put. My philosophy is that you trade up only if you have a guy you know can and will start on Day 1. To me, that means a Manning (either one) or a Luck. I don't see that in this draft.
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On 4/4/2018 at 5:21 PM, Elite Poster said:
Only one of those examples is from this decade to show how old this argument is. Those guys sliding in the draft is exactly why QBs are taken earlier and earlier. Finding late round guys is not that common. People need to fall back on decades ago to have substantial examples beyond a few outliers.
Now I'll name the franchise QBs taken early during this eon. Wentz, Goff, Mariota, Winston, Luck, Newton, Stafford, Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco, and the jury is out on Mitch, Mahomes, then there's Watson, but man did he look great this year.
The 80s and 90s were fun though right. Give me a break.
The guys on my list have won more Super Bowls than yours. And most of them weren't drafted in the fist round.
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2 hours ago, Wsam4031 said:
No you definitely don't have to draft one early ion the first round but when you do you increase your chances of getting a franchise qb. Look at the numbers and percentage of success rate and high first round qbs are a lot better than a flier on a 3rd -6th rd qb
qbs bills drafted not in the top 10 since Kelley
Collins rd 2
Jp rd 1
Edwards rd 3
Levi Brown rd 7
ej rd 1
cardale rd 4
Peterman rd 5
We have picked all over the place except top 10 and haven't hit yet
Is that a result of poor drafting, poor coaching, or both?
Insightful Analysis From Warren Sharp Reveals Potential Red Flags With Josh Allen as QB
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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My point is that he played with subpar talent around him.