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https://www.forbes.com/advisor/legal/dog-attack-statistics-breed/
Great article.
“Many dog advocates argue that there is no such thing as a bad breed, only a bad owner. Still, it can be helpful to understand which breeds of dogs are most commonly involved in bite incidents or acts of aggression. Dog attacks by breed statistics are invaluable both for individuals looking for a dog to adopt as well as for those who interact with animals who want to minimize risk.”“Pit bulls are both more likely to be involved in bite incidents and more likely to cause serious injury or death when a bite does occur. In fact, from 1979 to 1998, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention determined pit bulls were involved in the most fatal dog attacks, accounting for 28% deaths due to dog bites during that same time period.⁷”
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1 hour ago, Draconator said:
I'm proud to have my American Staffordshire Terrier. @muppy and I know they are wonderful dogs. Ending the breeding of them is stupid and a mistake. I have been attacked and blood has been drawn by a former roommate's Chihuahua, never from my own dog and my sister's purebred pitties.
And those that disagree with Muppy and me, you're being racist. Racism is the demeaning of another based solely on their race/breed.
WTH???
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7 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:
LOL
An Attorney's website is DogBiteLaw.com and I can't believe believe he has stats slanted a certain way....shocking.
We need more stats from www.pittiesarecuddly.com
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3 hours ago, Bray Wyatt said:
I find this topic interesting as I have had a bunch of different types of dogs (never a pit, my friends have had a bunch of pits that I have been around) and havent decided yet.
My experience is I grew up with or have/had several great danes, golden retrievers, a westie, a mini schnauzer and an olde english bull dog (a bull dog and boxer mix, basically trying to breed them back to have less recessive traits like the smushed in face etc.)
My wife's family bred shepherds and boxers when she was growing up. She is in the anti pit bull side and has stories about how agressive one of her shepherds got (basically broke through a window on the second floor and jumped off the garage roof to attack someone and got hurt). She is of the belief that you cant control when something snaps/instinct takes over and the dog does what it was bred to do.
None of the pitts I have been around were ever aggressive or anything more than loving when I was around them. They were super friendly.
Right now, I think my stance is people can own what they want, however they have to be responsible for whatever their dog does in my opinion. Not sure what the laws are or if they vary state by state.
An awesome, well thought out post. Didn’t demand closing thread. Didn’t scold anti-pit posters. Thank you.
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I see a lot of labs and goldens just running up and attacking little dogs.
The arguments in this thread are comical.
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1 hour ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:
Mods won’t shut it down (duplicate threads about a backup QB are no-no, but this thread is fine somehow) and it’s the top topic on this sub-board, so I’ll play along among some brutally ignorant comments.
Pitbull is not actually a breed of dog, it’s an umbrella term that covers 4-5 different breeds. Staffordshire Bull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, American Pit Bull Terrier to name a few.
There are also actually 12 “bully” breeds, dogs bred to do the same type as work often stereotyped for Pitts. In the 70-80s, they became popular for blood sports but historically have been used on farms. They are not aggressive by nature, but they are highly protective animals. They are also highly loving, have been referred to as ‘nanny dogs.’
1 in every 20 dogs in America can classify as a pitbull mix, and it’s the #1 most abused dog in the world. At one shelter, they tested the DNA of their ‘pit bulls’ and found that they actually had less than 50% of the ‘Pitbull’ mix DNA, but they were all still incorrectly labeled as ‘Pitbulls’ (which technically, is always incorrect). Most dogs, I’d wager, are actually muts/mixes.
I get it, the big bad Pitbull leads dog bites (72% of ALL dog attacks are males that are not neutered). When you realize that ‘Pitbull’ is a blanket term that covers 4-5 breeds, of course those numbers are high. These lists don’t compile Sheppard breeds or retrievers, just bull-terrier types.
How about we stop using dogs for security, and get our pets spayed/neutered? You want to cut down on dog bites/attacks, that’s how you do it.
This thread struck a nerve with me, congrats. I think I’ll go wrestle my family ‘pitbulls’ this weekend.
So any time someone disagrees with you (especially the families of countless disfigured kids and widows/widowers) the thread should be shut down. Common man.
You’ll be fine. Just lend your opinion here and there. No need to close an important topic just because it rubs you the wrong way. Try a “Hot for Teacher” thread.
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23 minutes ago, muppy said:
just for the record I did discover I am able to sort threads by the number of views. It's my choice what I wish to see. And don't tell me what to do it's rude.
Tell me banning a breed dogs isn't a political opinion. The discussion is banning them . Let's not be disingenuous.
it IS political when states already do outright ban them. Several.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/pitbull-legal-states
I really don't want to turn this thread political. Expressing an opinion about a popular breed that accounts for 68% of fatalities and severe injuries is more of a public service announcement that has two sides to the story. A group who has experienced great companionship with this breed (such as Teddy, SoTier, etc.) and another group who questions the well documented risk of exposing friends, children and elderly to severe injury or death.
Regulation does not equal banning.
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13 minutes ago, boyst said:
My wife is a veterinarian. She sees 2-3 dogs a week mauled by Pitbulls. She and almost every other veterinarian realize they are extremely dangerous dogs. Numerous times at her practice and others special procedures are taken at practices when Pitts (or other dangerous breeds enter). This includes emptying the lobby and common areas of all animals and children specifically. The dog is muzzled as soon as it enters the property. This is also required by insurance. There are times they even hobble the dogs.
You cannot control a 130 lbs animal set out to kill or attack.
You raise a good point.
Yes, there are golden retriever, collie and Labrador bites...most of those end in a few puncture wounds, some scarring maybe.
When a pitbull bites, it keeps going until the job is done.
As Gugny said, there's a trigger in their breed that may kick into overdrive to render the victim (other dog, person) severely injured.
Yes, there are responsible pittie owners, but permitting ownership of this breed should be regulated in some fashion given 68% of all fatalities/injuries are attributable to this breed.
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Here’s a victim who owned pitties in the past…now her opinion of them has changed.
“The couple are dog lovers and have even owned pit bulls in the past, but now she sees them differently.
“These dogs are so strong and have such powerful jaws that they are deadly weapons. All owners of large dogs, especially these breeds, must be aware of the potential for carnage and fatalities, both human and animal,” she said.”
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Pit bulls may present a greater danger than other breeds for many reasons, such as because they have been bred to be more aggressive, are less likely to back down during fights and are less likely to give a warning before a bite.
https://www.forbes.com/advisor/legal/dog-attack-statistics-breed/
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1 hour ago, SoTier said:
I'm glad you brought up mastiffs because they seem to be the favorite "guard dog" of new generation of sickos and/or criminals seeking to weaponize dogs. Lots of dog breeds have less than ideal temperaments, but it's the owners/handlers/supposed trainers who make individual dogs dangerous by their mistreatment.
A beautiful day in the suburbs. Bam!! A cuddly “pittie” gets loose. Yeah. Owner trained it to do this. Sure.
I can do this all day…respond with Labrador or Golden doodle attacks.
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Raising pit bulls for sale? Aren't there enough cuddly pit bulls to adopt at the shelters?
10 hours ago, qwksilver said:Glad I could help such a F$#8ing stupid topic.
As you can see, this is on OTW. Right where this topic belongs.
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Williams was gardening in her back alley when her neighbour's three pit bulls escaped from a fenced yard.
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1 hour ago, That's No Moon said:
Neighbor two doors down has one. It jumped through a screen, out a second story window, to murder a smaller dog that was being walked past the house on the public sidewalk. Totally normal behavior. Owner is a nice guy. Captain of the local fire department. Dog is psychotic. Picture that for a moment, you're walking your totally normal dog on a totally normal day and suddenly a huge crazed dog comes flying out a second story window and murders your dog right in front of you.
In my state the dog gets to live if it does that. The owner has to register it as a dangerous animal, pay a $500 annual fee, and not let it outside without a leash and muzzle. Keep in mind, this thing YEETED itself out a window already, but inside is good enough. Walkies outside are still ok so long as it's muzzled, which the owner doesn't do. No signage warning the general public about the dog either. Sidewalk in front and a public trail in the back. In short, lots of people, dogs, and kids can and do walk past the house. Zero warning that a 100 pound death machine lives there. Seems totally ok.
They were bred that way. Killing machines.
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2 minutes ago, LeviF said:
Guys, you don’t understand. The disproportionate number of deaths and hospitalizations are just because bad owners really particularly like this dog, and only this dog.
You’re right. I should probably do more research. Pretty sure Golden doodles maul just as many people.
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She obviously found your stash and spelled it wrong. It’s “WEED”
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Soooo utterly confused.
Carry on.
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Ralph is rolling over in his grave. RIP Mr. Wilson.
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3 minutes ago, HardyBoy said:
I'd argue this year with throwing into tight windows was a top 3 defense at the top of its game vs AJ Klein, a severely hampered Douglass and a bunch of other injuries.
What AJ Klein level mismatch did the Chiefs have on their defense that the Bills could have exploited to get those wide open windows?
I agree with you x100. No Milano, White, Bernard, Douglas…But…McDermott hate and all that. Get with the program.
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Pit Bulls are so cuddly!!! Breed more of them.
in Off the Wall
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I bet this one had something to do with that decision. Good call!
”ohhhh, but this puppy is so sweet. Loves our family”.
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/home/pets/blood-smeared-on-walls-horror-dog-attack-leaves-family-reeling/news-story/9e1ccc27d53a955c5096be0bb2215831?amp
Is the baby no longer with us? RIP. That’s the whole point of this thread.