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1 hour ago, Low Positive said:
Watch this three times and call me in the morning
You can't convince me this isn't Leodis McKelvin.
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2 minutes ago, DCOrange said:
He's one of the fastest WRs in the draft, so no. I like Coleman as well who actually has speed concerns though lol.
Yeah. I read Franklin, I responded Franklin, But my brain short circuited and kept saying Coleman
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1 minute ago, Cheektowaga Chad said:
If pat McAfee was more the macafee that is on college game day bilichick would have fit in a lot better, which the show tends to be more laid back and "fun" for lack of a better word
Tried to make it too much the pat macafee show but then tried to be a legit draft show with Belichick sticking out like a sore thumb
I'm guessing Belichick thought this show would have been more game day vs PMS and that's how he ended up there
Wish ESPN would have just a two man team of Belichick and saban breaking down the picks
Agree on the Saban/Bill show. That would be awesome. I oddly enjoy the Belichick personality, but I really enjoyed how candid he about his film review. We have sen guys early in their broadcast career like Romo take a deep dive only to dumb it down. I hope he sticks to it. He is definitely more stubborn than everybody, if anybody can it is Bill.
Re: Bill and McAfee, I think he enjoyed himself. He laughed a ton and asked to be a regular on the show. It seemed to catch Pat off guard. They agreed to do a weekly Monday spot this season. I think being the straight man last night made it a reasonable show. I like Pat's daily show, but I wouldn't have stayed tuned in with them last night if not for Bill. I think they are on to something that could be a great draft show with a little fine tuning.
Also the Rodgers segment was unbearable. I find him annoying in general, but sometimes entertaining in a watching a crazy person be crazy kind of way. It seemed very clear that he expects to have a lot of influence on the FO/draft. -
Just now, That's No Moon said:
If he's not managing that given what he does, with the resources of two different major football programs with all the resources a player could ask for that speaks to a lack of maturity as much as anything else. It's not about the Bills managing his diabetes, it's about him managing his diabetes. Could he start? Sure. Why would he begin now if he hasn't already?
Totally agree. I meant manage him managing himself. The whole thing falls under him not being accountable for himself, one of, if not the most important skill for an elite athlete.
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1 minute ago, DCOrange said:
My personal order of those guys pre-draft was:
- Franklin
- McConkey
- Pearsall
- Mitchell
- Legette
- Worthy
With a significant gap from Pearsall to Mitchell and an even more significant gap from Mitchell to Legette/Worthy.
Any concern with Franklins speed?
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27 minutes ago, Rad Likes The Bills said:
The second round is where all the value lies in the receiving depth of this draft. History shows REPEATEDLY that you can find studs, WR1’s, and WR2’s here.
Available
Adonai Mitchell
Troy FranklinLadd McConkey
Keon Coleman
Javon Baker
Jalynn Polk
Recent Hits
AJ Brown
Dk Metcalf
Deebo Samuel
Davante Adams
Tee Higgins
Rookie WR success is about situation, and I can’t think of a better one than a hungry 17 ready to put up big numbers without the drama. Take your pick(s) it doesn’t matter we are all going to be smiling tomorrow.
Adonai Mitchell is interesting. Some of the attitude concerns seem to be linked to his lack of management of his diabetes. I’ll be curious if the Bills think they can manage that. Because if they can he’s an unbelievable athlete.
For any of the film gurus on the board I am curious is Franklin plays faster than his combine time.
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1 minute ago, Blackbeard said:
I still disagree.
My point is Bill have been downgraded.
if he was such a hot prospect for nfl analysis, he’d be on the larger paneled shows.
McAfee gets hits sure. But the majority of the people watching nfl are watching it live on tv. They’re not tuning into some show on social media.
no sense arguing.
You asked why. The answer is McAfee is one of the most popular, if not the most popular NFL show in the world. He is on ESPN as well, but his YouTube alone did better than the NFL Network did last year. So he’s likely already beat “one of the larger panels”.You can “disagree” all you want. But it doesn’t change the viewership numbers which aren’t really an opinion. Lots of people watch McAfee. Way more people than you think. It isn’t bottom of the barrel viewership. Day in and day out it’s top of the barrel.
You just hate the guy and that’s ok too. But it has nothing to do with BB.
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24 minutes ago, Blackbeard said:
News flash: a LOT of the media and their associated pages get “hits” and “likes”. And views. This doesn’t mean they’re good.
I’ve watched his show just to laugh at how ridiculous he comes off.
some of the most lame takes get the most hits. That’s how the media works.
Why wasn’t Bill on any of the panels on tv during the draft? He could’ve been asked to sit with any of the panels doing live coverage during the draft at the show. He wasn’t.
You’ve missed the point entirely. Those Pat Macafee numbers are bigger than most of the other sports and football shows on any other network. Get Up and First Take average about 600k per day to Pats 800k+.
You hate the guy. I get it. I am not here to tell you he is the most entertaining shows. But when you ask “why isn’t he on the other networks right now?”. That’s why. Because his daily viewership is as high or higher than everybody else.
Everything you like the most isn’t the most popular and that’s totally Ok. But it doesn’t make other people bums.
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11 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:
Interesting. I wouldn’t be mad at either.
I think there is a real possibility we trade back and a small chance we even end up with 4 picks in the top 100.
The cost for Higgins to Buffalo would have to be astronomical. Cincinnati, KC, and Buffalo are all in a fight for the top of the conference. Buffalo has to be a short list of no-go’s like to Diggs to KC. -
25 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:
Our first round was essentially trading a 4th for a 3rd and 6th for a 5th. We now have two seconds and third? Will be interesting if we end up taking three players in the second tomorrow by trading up into the 2nd with our stock pile of picks. That may be a success if we can end up with DeJean and two WR's in the 2nd round.
I think there’s a chance we get 4 picks in the 2nd/3rd tomorrow with a trade down from 33.
At quick glance lots of teams with 2 x 2nds/3rds.
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6 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said:
He's just moving back while moving up in picks as well. The funny thing is 33 is a very valuable pick and I could see Buffalo going back again.
That was my first thought. I think we can get more value for 33 tomorrow than either pick today.-
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1 minute ago, Rigotz said:
This is a loser mentality.Dont make a good trade because you’re scared your rival might pick someone they like?
I’ve seen too much of this mentality. Act like we have one of the best QBs in the league and expect to win.
I think it is a fine trade. I’m not sure it’s a good trade.But at the same time you wouldn’t apply that logic to trading Diggs to KC for a fair return. KC would have to pay a major tax.
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Just now, SirAndrew said:
Here’s my issue, it doesn’t matter if we didn’t want Worthy. You don’t give Mahomes a speed receiver. It’s ok that Beane didn’t want Worthy, but there’s no way you take the risk of giving any help to Mahomes. Maybe the Chiefs draft Worthy at 32, but why be directly responsible for potentially watching Worthy catch deep passes against us in the playoffs? I just don’t get it.
This.
I will add that if you’re going to do it you absolutely don’t swap picks down the board. You give 28 and you get picks, multiple picks, back to you.
I would feel a little better if it was
- Bills give up 28
- KC gives up 32, 95, and 2025 3rd.
Curious if BB thought KC was going a totally different direction? Do we just trade out of the first all together?
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3 minutes ago, Low Positive said:
This has been the worst off season of Beans tenure, and he should be fired on Monday.
And who is going to hire a new GM?
Terry Pegula? Hahahaha.
Might as well burn the team down at that point.
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4 hours ago, Blackbeard said:
Crazy how downgraded Bill has become amongst the nfl elite.
Him just being on this tools show is hysterical. Best he could do.
In season McAfee averages like 800k viewers per day and 1.7M on social media clips.Pat is as big or bigger than any NFL show on tv/youtube.
You don’t have to like the guy, or his show. I don’t care. But to talk about the PM Show like ianybody going on it is the bottom of the barrel is flat out wrong. If Pat isn’t the king of the football media hill he is very close to it.
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The first pick Bill Belichick didn’t totally crap on when the film comes on.
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11 minutes ago, Cheektowaga Chad said:
Low key Belichick is wasted on this telecast
I love the fact that these guys are getting picked in the top 3 and the first thing Bill does is break down 3-5 plays on why they suck.-
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6 hours ago, Buffalo Ballin said:
I don't see how Marvin Harrison Jr. is just as great as his old man, the OG Marvin Harrison. Shaking my head. I don't get it. I have never seen the son surpassing the father WHEN the father is already top tier. The son would be lucky just to be in the same tier as his dad.
I don't care how these scouts and Youtubers are selling MHJ. I rather have Nabers, too.
Has there ever been a HOF father and son (other than Lebron and Bronnie James of course)-
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44 minutes ago, Ramza86 said:
I dig the vintage look. They would obviously only be wearing that once a year.
43 minutes ago, Draconator said:Can the Montreal Canadiens claim copyright infringement?
They look more like soccer jerseys to me. Maybe they can put a little collar on them?
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3 hours ago, Aussie Joe said:
Is this good news?
It's news!
3 minutes ago, buffblue said:Guys like Craig Berube, Todd McClellan, and Gerard Gallant are all not currently employed and would've been outstanding choices. They wouldn't have to wait for any of them.
So the question is did the Sabres even try to reach out to any of them? My suspicion is no. Unfortunately the Sabres under Terry have become like the Bills under Ralph during the drought. They go with the guys they "know".
All of this said, I do like Lindy and he does have a great history as a Sabre. I just shake my head when a mere six days pass before he is announced as head coach when there is no other demand for his coaching services.
Any major hire the Sabres org has to meet 3 criteria:
1. Best hire
2. Who Terry is willing to hire.
3. Who will take the job.
Under those 3 circumstances I think Lindy is in the top tier.
Pro's: I think this could set the stage to push Terry a step further back from hockey decisions and/or an eventual promotion of Lindy to POHO. Even if this whole Adams/Ruff era fails I would rather Lindy hire the next GM than Terry.
Cons: They fired Donnie 6 days ago. They either didn't even try and hire another candidate or there are a huge amount of candidates that don't meet no. 2 or no. 3 above. Both are giant red flags for the org.-
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18 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:
Why on earth would anyone want to own a team in this town? Every time your team loses, people blame you and demand you sell the team.
Lets be real here. Terry got a pass for nearly a decade of ownership. The heat didn't start turning up until Covid, then a failure to maintain the facilities, and now the team is tied for the least amount of scouts in the league and has half the analytics and player development staff of some other franchises in the league.
Terry didn't just lose a few hockey games and get booed. He is on a literal historic run of ineptitude setting the record for longest playoff drought in NHL history. Since March 1, 2011 no team in the NHL has a worse P% than Terry Pegula's Buffalo Sabres. This isn't hyperbole. It is the current state of the franchise.-
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Just now, Toomstone.Part.Duex said:
Its difficult to imagine the amount of money some people have. You'd need over 900 Million just to get a 25% stake.
It is bonkers. I totally agree.
Also, if he can find a buyer committed to keeping the Sabres in Buffalo for eternity he should 100% do that. They are valued at $900M and he is the worst owner the league has ever seen.
Or maybe this is the best route? That means somebody else could be in the room with Terry and he can help save this franchise from the ol' Ter-Bear when it comes time to eventually replace Beane/Allen. The Sabres also act as a distraction for Terry. I imagine Brandon Beane waving the Sabres around like an imaginary ball for a dog to get Terry out of the room. -
It has been clear for some time Terry needs some more cash. I think he is likely over invested in sports and the Harbor Center and doesn't have enough liquidity.
"Nothing to see here I am not selling anything everything is cool. The years of a leaking roof (KBC), keeping the scoreboard for 2x the factory recommendations, bottom half spending across the NHL 7 of the last 9 years, and getting out of any major contractual obligations are just happenstance" - Terry Pegula
"I am selling stuff"- Also Terry Pegula (25% of the Bills, backed out of the BCA lease, and selling the Rochester Knighthawks after saying he wouldn't 2 weeks ago)-
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19 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said:
And Hurt's cap hit the next 2 seasons:
2024- $13,558,800
2025- $21,769,800
Even in 2026 it's a low hit for a QB:
2026- $31,771,800
I am not a believer in Jalen Hurts yet. He hasn't shown me to be a good enough passer to make up for his cap number once it starts coming into play.
Bills interested in Deebo Samuel per Mike Giardi
in The Stadium Wall
Posted · Edited by Mango
Changed to Curtis and Deebo.
Samuel is a slot receiver, an inch shorter and 20 lbs lighter. Deebo is 6' 215 lbs who only takes like 17% of his snaps inside. For reference Diggs took 30% of his snaps from the slot and Curtis took nearly 70% from the slot position.
They aren't even close to the same receiver.