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Not every measure,(at least not if measured in yardage) we ended up ranking 30th overall in total yardage last season, we rank 30th now and our average yardage totals have dropped by 24 yards. (251 this season, 275 last season's avg)
Yards are a good indicator, but let's look at Points vs Time of Possession (rounded to nearest minute).
Game 1 (Dolphins): 10 points, 23 minutes with the ball (.43 points per minute of TOP)
Game 2 (Packers): 7 points, 29 minutes (.24 points per minute)
Game 3 (Pats*): 30 points, 28 minutes (1.07 points per minute)
Game 4 (Jets): 14 points, 20 minutes (.7 points per minute)
Game 5 (Jags): 26 points, 26 minutes (1 point per minute)
Yes you should consider the quality of opposing defense, the 1 KR TD, and the smattering of garbage-time points... But it is true that the offense is doing more with the time it has the ball, in recent weeks without Trent. The most pressing problem is that the defense is not getting stops, not getting the offense the ball. The Jags went the whole game without punting in week 5.
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Maybe Ryan Leaf is free too.
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We should pin this thread. Diehard, can you and your former mates keep em comin? You already have a great book title (thread subject!).
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I live in the mid-atlantic area and people think the Bills are just the dregs of the NFL. For the first time ever, I'm a bit embarrassed. I took the 2010 "Billieve" sticker off my car. I'm not encouraging my kids to wear their Bills stuff to school, because why should they endure other kids laughing about it. If they go 0-16, it's gonna be real tough on us out of town Bills fans.
I'm also in the mid-atlantic area, and I work with folks from all over the country... and I find that most of my coworkers genuinely feel bad for me. No ribbing, no hard time, just genuine sympathy (except for the lone Jets fan who went to school in Buffalo in the early 90s, who delights in our misery). A Giants fan I work with told me recently, "It's really not funny. It's awful to see a team that bad. It's not fun for anyone." I also happen to pull for the Washington Nationals... when Strasburg went down with his injury this summer, this same guy said to me, "Please do not start rooting for the Giants or Yankees."
I still sport my throwback Bills hat. I will not stop doing that, especially because it looks sooo good. It's tough to watch a few of my sons root for other teams though. The only condition I place on them is this: if you root for the Dolphins, you sleep outside.
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Marv simply wasn't a real GM. Good man, great coach, excellent leader of men. Not a GM - never should have had the job.
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or this:
BTW kudos on starting this thread. There's some therapy in this.
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Obscure Aussie chick band:
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I challenge the board to find one play, one lousy play, since Lee Evans has been a Buffalo Bill where the HC, OC, or QB called a play where he was required to run over the middle and he said no. Seriously, this might be the most annoying thing I ever see on this board. If you dont like Lee or want to trade Lee, then fine...but to claim he "refuses" to run over the middle is so stupid that it has to finally be addressed.
I don't think that's really provable without being in the huddle or on the sideline. He doesn't seem to get his number called on crossing routes often though... can't really hang that on Lee. He's also not a very big target (which is advantageous on crossing routes).
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You gotta earn your way onto the field, and Maybin hasn't.
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I keep thinking... but all I hear is this:
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The problem is Ralph is too old to change anything. He is surrounded by leeches in the front office that will just keep the status quo until he finally dies.
Look at the last two GMs, bringing in an old friend like Levy even though he is not qualified for the job, and then just promoting Nix from within and keeping everyone else like Brandon/Modrak/Littman/Overdorf, etc.
He's a dying old man, he is not capable of performing a search for a new GM even if he wanted to. I mean, who is even going to make the phone calls and do the interviews? It would be one of his Yes-Men, like Russ, and the leeches would never let anyone come in here that would shake things up too much.
It's sad, but it's really just a group of front office executive vultures preying on Ralph for big salaries with no accountability.
Amen. Incentives drive behavior. The #1 incentive for the people running the show is a healthy balance sheet, not wins and losses. <deep sigh>
Here's the thing, though: the day will come (upon the passing or RW) when Russ Brandon & Tom Modrak will be unemployable in the NFL. You would think that a young fella like Russ Brandon would want more success on his resume.
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Edwards will tell them to cover the running backs on pass plays. He will tell his new coach, "this play is a checkdown" on pretty much all passing plays.
Yeh, it's just B.S., but what do you expect him to say?
This may be one of the games that the Bills will steal this year.
...IF Jones-Drew is held under 100 yards and 2 TDs. Which he won't be.
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A handheld screen, some headphones... maybe they can show highlights of the early 90s to get some cheers going.
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If we go 0-16, the Bills will forever have that stigma with the Lions and Bucs. Embarassing.
Exactly. No need to add to the stink of losing that we have to deal with already.
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You know it's funny how what is fairly obvious to some is an emotional blind spot for others. You and the OP hit it spot on.
In business they call it "sunk cost", or why people SHOULD NEVER make decisions based on what WAS paid for something. Whatever draft pick was spent, it is a sunk cost and is completely irrelevant to a players value in the league today or whether or not to keep him, trade him, etc. Would anyone give a first round pick for Lynch today based on his career thus far, well obviously not, he garnered a 4th and subsequent years’ 5th or 6th.
So while his unknown potential at one point, in a draft with a huge talent drop off in RB talent after the first RB picked (he plays in Minnesota), Lynch was worth a first round pick based on what he could have been, but certainly not what he is. And there are certainly late round picks in the league that would now be considered worth a First. Would a team like Buffalo decline an opportunity to trade a first round pick for tom Brady because he was originally a 6th rounder? The Texans Foster was an UDFA and was not deemed worthy of any round pick, now I’d image there is a different perception.
It can be argued that ML was not a good pick, but where he was picked should have no bearing on any decision moving forward regarding his trade value or value to the team as it doesn’t matter.
Egggzactly. Market value is a fluid thing. Randy Moss was a 1st rounder too.
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Definitely.
http://www.databasefootball.com/draft/draftteam.htm?tm=BSP&lg=nfl
You can see that NE has looked to pile up numerous picks in rounds 1-4, even back into the 90s (with a handful of seasons in there where they had normal or fewer). This works well if you have good talent evaluators, of course.
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My problem is I don't have anything good to say about my team.
Just like Mom always taught us... if you don't have anything nice to say, find an internet message board.
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I am quietly optimistic right now. I can see the positives in what is happening. Bottom line is that the players on the roster currently are not capable of winning, and many of them need to go. I never felt Marshawn was ever going to be an elite back, and I am fairly sure he will do no better in Seattle. I don't wish any Ill-will, I just don't see him as the answer for any team really. Trent was obvious, and unless he mysteriously learns how to throw a pass 20 yards up the middle, he will never be anything more than an extra point holder.
Whitner and Evans(yes I said it) are probably next. Evans has been a stand up guy along with Whitner, but when you aren't even drawing double coverage anymore, there's a problem.
If this is the path we're taking to achieve greatness again, then I'm going to sit back and watch. The front office is on the clock, and they better hurry, because Ralph isn't going to live forever, and once the team is gone I could give 2 squats what happens to them then.
I'm not yet optimistic, but it's at least nice to see them doing SOMETHING. Getting 2 picks for Lynch isn't bad. We need to learn from successful front offices. For example, look at this from the espn article on Moss-to-Minnesota:
When the trade is completed, the Patriots will have two picks in each of the first four rounds of the 2011 draft -- their own picks and a first-round pick from Oakland, a second-round pick from Carolina, the third-round pick from Minnesota and a fourth-rounder from Denver.THIS is how it is done. It helps to have a stout O Line & franchise QB already in place, of course... Man I hate them.
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Everybody and their monkey's organ knew the Bills needed to do major work on their OL EIGHTEEN months ago (when they traded Peters without a replacement). Edwards lost his job to a journeyman, who was brought in as a non-threat, almost a year ago. How do these things seem like new revelations??
this
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Nice value under the circumstances. A 3rd would have been nicer, but just got to move forward. The Bills need to stockpile draft picks right now and this is a good start.
exactly. This is what good teams do.
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Well maybe Adam and Jamie can come in and run the Bills franchise then. They can't do any worse!
We'd still lose a lot of games, but we would have the shiniest turds in the league by a wide margin.
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They are still looking for a QB. That's the most important player, and they haven't been able to fill that hole (no, I don't need to hear about getting an O-line first or "defense wins championships").
Many teams struggle after their franchise QB leaves, it's just that the Bill keep making the wrong choices concerning QB's (and plenty of other areas as well obviously). Some of the Bills teams in the past 10 years were good enough to make the playoffs if they had a top shelf QB at the time. The Bills haven't found one, and it has a huge effect on the psyche of the team. Really, aside from the Kelly years, this franchise has been nowhere, and it's not a coincidence that he is the only top shelf QB that they have had (Please don't interject with "Joe Ferguson!", I grew up watching him play. Not top shelf.)
I was going to argue at first, but then I went here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Super_Bowl_champions
The teams that won the Super Bowl without a 'top shelf' QB, over the past 20 years:
1990 Giants (superior defense)
1991 Redskins (with Mark Rypien, who was rarely touched by a defender that whole year)
2000 Ravens (superior defense)
2002 Bucs (superior defense)
And this includes calling Eli Manning a top shelf QB, which might be a stretch. So yeah, that's 16 of the last 20 Super Bowls won with a big time QB. It is a rare championship team that has it's heart-and-soul leader in a position other than QB.
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The economy was in one of the three worst situations in American history when Obama was elected. He was elected almost specifically for that reason. It was not a ditch, it was a bottomless pit.
This **** has no place in this part of the forum, and there is a reason people don't run to football fans when they are looking for sound political advice.
That's right... we run to movie stars for that kind of deep thinking.
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And so, it's 0-4. I see some folks cheering for it, wanting the 0-16 finish. Why? I really don't know what that would accomplish. Thing is, the Bills could be heading in that direction. It's still a bit early, but there aren't many encouraging signs. Jacksonville? Even if they can't settle on a QB and look bipolar @ times, they still play extremely hard, much harder than the Bills have in four games. Detroit? They've given Philly, Green Bay, and Chicago very tough games. Looks like Jim Schwartz has his team gutting it out. Cleveland? They're a mess, but they also play hard, going @ it w/ division foes Cincinnati and Baltimore and coming out w/ a split in those games. So even though they could end up beating those teams, I don't believe any of those games would be close to easy to win. Are the Buffalo Bills "the worst team in football"? I sure hope not, but I just don't know. Regardless, I will hope for the best and cheer for them. I just won't die if they continue to lose. Good luck the rest of the way. Go Bills!
Great post!
Both Detroit and Cleveland have made meaningful investments in their O lines and D lines, which means they're on better footing that the Bills right now.
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Professor Nerdlinger from Harvard will be a good tutor to a young talent. And worst case, he can get out there and run for his life behind this O-line.