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Well done. I'll take my franchise Qb where GB took theirs and where NE got theirs. Let's first match their 'D' because offense has a lot of parts in place. Defense is like a wind barometer. I want a hurricane on my side. edited for content...mod

But I believe the future can be better. Regrets, I have a few but I am glad I was there!

Reed was always one for mixing negatives with positives to the point of confusing the message or turning it into a sour one. Sounds like he hasn't lost his touch. I almost forgot how good Jimbo was and that last throw as Joe Theismann said was pretty amazing. I would like to see us with That kind of offensive line again. Damn shame we didn't have Ted Washington back then.

There is no way of no how in any real world should not scenario where Reed would not no way couldn’t make it. Right?

Nothing like lobbing up a gopher ball. That’s what has you upset at Ralph, that he was turned down by Shanahan, an over-rated but well known name in the coaching world and didn’t sign an over-rated well known qb that had stated he wasn’t interested in coming to Buffalo? Well as for me, I am very thankful I don’t have to hear those names very much in my football world. Especially grateful that their not remotely connected to the team I follow. Sometimes, you just luck out I guess!

I know but it's nice to clear the air every so often so we can start fresh again.

Blockheads like this guy and the rest that call Ralph cheap never do any research. This guy tosses out a meaningless number while the others just make empty declarations. What could be their motivation? Answer – not having to think. Their simple minds haven’t developed past adolescence. So thought is work like homework which equals not good. All decisions from one Bills drive they don’t like are because Ralph is cheap. It’s easier that way for the simple minded person to understand. First make it monolithic. Then make it steadfast. There thinking successfully eliminated. Did you know that in seasons 2008 and 2009, Buffalo’s total payroll was higher than Dan Snyder’s Washington Redskins. More to the point, they ranked 16th and 13th league wide. You might be surprised as I was to see Indianapolis and New England way down the list. Way down! 29th and 30th respectively in 2008 to be exact. Folks, The Bill’s failings are not because Ralph is cheap. http://content.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/salaries/totalpayroll.aspx?year=2008 http://content.usatoday.com/sportsdata/football/nfl/salaries/team

Yes that was a good one. This has the feel of a hollywood sitcom doesn't it. Reminds me specifically of wkrp Cincinnati a weekly account of the travails of a bunch of screwups running a radio station.

No doubt, you're the guy falling in the urinal because you couldn't stop buying beer sold inside the lavatory.

or in your case, I suppose we are to infer the logic that because Dan Snyder is a nut job, than Ralph Wilson is cheap!

Well now that we’ve covered all the bases and everyone knows the Chinese kid Hu is on first. I’d like to know how I can transfer all this great information I’ve been compiling into beating the spread on the SB. But with all this great information, I don’t know how to get to second base or who’s on second. I hear an inner voice telling me I don’t know is on third, who is back on first but what is on second. I don’t care. No he’s in between 2nd and 3rd. Don’t get me started. Art Wander where are you? Look the super bowl is just 9 days away. It’s time we focus a little of this to that. Together we formulate a considerable force of brain power. If we can come together, perhaps we will be mighty enough to defeat the spread!

Our draft record is so bad over the last 10 years, any declaration made by the Bills could drop a players value a couple of rounds.

Well done. Let me remind you of one interesting footnote following Baltimore's SB win and one reason they didn't repeat. Billick traded for a rising star, strong armed Qb with some prolific passing stats named Elvis Grbac. They promptly dumped Dilfer and struggled with Grbac until he quit out of frustration just 2 years later with the Ravens unable to make the playoffs and their offense reduced to a turnover machine. As it turns out, he was missing the intangibles required to play the position. Finding a franchise QB can be a roll of the dice. Maybe what we should start looking for is a winning Qb instead. So with that in mind, how good would Manning have looked with this supporting cast. There is a lot of subjection and uncertainty. No one knows for sure until you have him in place with some semblance of a supporting cast. I am one of those who hasn't given up on Ryan Fitzpatrick. I think he's a winner.

1)Precisely my point. Didn't you read what you're responding to? The 2000 SB was won on intimidating defense. 2)Precisely

minus your little dog poo.

Why don’t you ask why the jets didn’t win. They held Ben Roethlisberger to a 35.5 qb rating and their franchise qb had a qb rating of 102.5.

Perhaps you should read his original post. He’s been backing it up the whole time. So here I’ll paste his OP below Posted 16 January 2011 - 08:09 PM So, down goes Manning, down goes Brees, down goes Flacco, down goes Vick, down goes Ryan, down goes Brady.... " To all of you that think we NEED a QB at #3 this year (none worthy at #3), once again... here is a CLASSIC example of the need for a solid defense. This years defenses prove once again, that a top D is the tonic this team needs. It will give this team the attitude this team and city needs. You want to grab a QB in the third? Ok... no issues, but that better be after a selection of a DE/DT and a LB. Buddy... SOLIDIFY the D through the draft AND through FA. Don't bank on Merriman being "the man"... he's an unknown at this time. Go draft help, go pay the $$ for FA help... The O can use an RT an TE and some depth too... BUT... I hope you're paying attention this post season... D, D, D, D, D, D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! " Rather than relive his writings, what if I just give you an example without research compiled in support but my mere mortal memory Giants get plowed in Giants vs Ravens, 2000 Super Bowl NYG had a balanced team. Solid on Off. with both a strong passing & running attack , Def , ST and a good QB who had taken expansion team Carolina to a NFC championship game in his second year. Baltimore had a boring, methodical and unimaginative offense composed of a solid power running game (big time power back), a less than average Qb they felt the need to get rid of after the SB and little receiving talent. Their defense was more than solid or even exceptional. It is still compared as the best of all time in today’s NFL annals. In fact, their defense, if I remember correctly scored nearly as many points as their offense that year. In the NFL, you just can’t have it all before you have to rebuild again but maybe you can be so dominate on one side of the ball you can hide your weaknesses on the other. The past is proof.

First Take the plank out of your own eye. I cannot believe all the venom that is coming out in many of these posts. Mcd makes an OP that has merit. But so many here are just bleeding with animosity. What the hells is wrong with you people! I promised myself I wasn’t going there. Perhaps what many of you are angry about is how well he defends his position. You are all coming after him like a bunch ninjas from every angle. Really. I have to admit though, a lot of the enjoyment I’m getting from this thread is the feeling I’m participating as a spectator in an old Steven Seagal movie with guys getting B word slapped, kicked in the mouth and tossed across the room and half expecting the need to duck away from a flying chair while reading each new post. I think the Super Bowl would be a terrific culminating event for this developing novel. But then again, maybe the draft would be a more natural end landing.

I wouldn’t mind drafting one of the top 2 qbs but not at the expense of losing out on what I feel are defense changing impact players, Reggie White and Bruce Smith types. We have a guy we can win with in Fitz. We have many things in place on offense. We don’t on D and where we pick, we have the opportunity to fill those needs. The point I was making before was none of these QBs are as impactful as everyone seems to thing and the playoffs are the proof of the pudding. Sanchez qb rating in this game was 102.5. Roethlisberger was 35.5. I was surprised by the actual numbers. Big Ben made a lot of big plays. But in this game, it was running, defense and game management that won the day. In the GB-Chicago game little known 3rd year undrafted qb out of Colorado St. who came into the game as the team’s 3rd stringer considerably outperformed Cutler and even Rodgers (perhaps the best qb in the game) in the second half and turned a one sided defensive struggle into a nail biter. I’m not saying you can win with average talent or less at the key qb position. But you see all these teams drafting in search of the next Brady or Manning. Most discover as Marv Levy did just because you covet the skill set of a player like Polamalu doesn’t mean those type skills will show up in the safety you decide to draft early (Whitner). They rarely do. The Jets took Sanchez 5 or 6 in round 1 and I dare to say if he doesn’t remind me more of our Fitz. They will win with their guy and we will win with Fitz. Give me my defense.

Oh really based on your say so. Your unexpressed reasoning is impressive and very logical to you maybe. So I throw it back at you. Your statement is a blank page.

To somewhere in this multi layered thread to which this applies, I felt a sudden compulsion to respond after watching franchise qbs in action. If how a player performs in big games is a factor in how they are viewed than if Jay Cutler = Franchise QB Caleb Hanie > Jay Cutler Ryan Fitzpatrick => Caleb Hanie Ryan Fitzpatrick = Franchise QB Draft defense, Acquire more defense in FA, Improve defense side coaching √(did that) playoffs next year.

You guys all missed the future story. SF trades with Carolina and Luck declares a change of heart. Come on now. I can't believe I'm the only one who sees these things.

That would be great if you were right. I don’t think there is anyone here rooting against him. We thought we were getting the second coming of Shane Conlin. Poz is a genuine good guy. The frustration comes from watching the steady flow of te’s beat him in coverage and the weak run defense. You can make an assortment of excuses on a bad defense. I’m sure some apply. But Kyle Williams is going to the pro bowl. You can see Kyle making plays and impacting the defense in positive ways. I rarely see that from Poz.

Hear, hear. Excellent points that need to be made. I’m glad Buddy and Chan are making this decision. It’s not going to be an easy one. We saw how bad this offense is under Edwards, Brohm as well as Losman. Fitzpatrick creates something out of this mess. However picking third, they have an open field of opportunity. And having all those options available makes this a little more complicated and interesting. Don't know my wish list other than I’m glad, so glad the past decision makers are behind us. There's at least a chance of something good.

You had to edit that. Stop it, you're killing me. Why So Serious?, I think we need an official confirmation.