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I watched this game because I bet on it. The Bridge was dynamite. He threw the ball downfield often & accurate. For his first start, he was simply overwhelming. I was obviously impressed. Our guy on the other hand - whew. Will he ever become accurate? I don't know.How many people on here were pining for Bridgewater pre-draft? My recollection is that it was precious few.
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Where is Chan now - anyone know ?No it's just that many posters will not accept Gailey knew the hand he was dealt, and designed a team and scheme around it. This includes CJ, his o-line, and Fitz.
I'm not trying to recap history, but Gailey was better than we want to admit. He knew Fitz's limitations, the line's limitations, and the speed of Spiller along with an avg WR
I still like Levitre and know he could be an addition to us. He's not worth $8 mil a year though.
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good test for our RT.Excellent.
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I know that JJ Watt is a great pass rusher. How is he against the run ?The hope is Cyril Richardson can help in the run game. The Texans gave up 193 rushing yards to the Giants last week: http://blog.chron.co...-is/#26930101=0
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What did DM say ?Very true! He is not on a short leash at all. We'll see what method proves to be better a few years down the road. It drives my crazy that this coaching staff is so paranoid about EJ getting hurt. I understand the history, but let him run and make plays. I am really surprised DM admitted to that on WGR this week.
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Didn't Orton take the Bears to the playoffs in his rookie year ?I used to think you need 3 years to evaluate players and coaches but you're probably right. It should be about 2 years.
I was not a RT fan in the draft. Though he was raw. But I thought he showed some signs of being a decent if not great starter. But this league eats young Qbs alive.
Don't forget he also predicted Andrew Luck to be good. He's the Bill Polian of this board.
EJ was much better in his first 2 seasons than Orton was. And that's the point. We know what Orton is and that's limited. We don't know what EJ is and it's stupid to give up on him for a barely servicable NFL starter. Miami should think the same way.
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The OL would look a lot better if the QB would get rid of the damn ball.Better pass pro and a cleaner pocket certainly would help. Orton would look no better behind the kind of substandard OL play we witnessed yesterday.
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Regarding # 4, there are only a few NFL cities where the fans approve of the play calling.My obvservations
1) EJ is progressing, the YPA is healthy and he makes very few errors for such a young player. He needs to develop more confidence down in the redzone, he needs to realize that we can't let points on the field if we want to be considered a serious contender.
2) another player that I see making unspectacular but positive plays is Manny Lawson. Him, Searcy and Graham are similar, they're not the greatest athletes but they get things done.
3) Bradham has arrived, he doesn't look lost and he hits hard, he's the Aaron Williams of the LBs, they're both growing into solid players.
4) For such a young guy, Hackett doesn't flinch, doesn't overreact doesn't panic. You see experienced coordinators, accomplished ones, putting the blinders on and completely hurt their teams in the process. You may dislike his play calling but I think there is some virtue in what he does while developing a young QB.
5) Can you imagine what the team will look like when Marrone gets the locker room back?
No one is prejudging Gilmore. The body of evidence so far indicates that he is a good CB. The jury is still out however on whether he can play up to his lofty draft position.Bill NYC, Excellent summarization of the game. I won't respond to all your excellent points but will just respond to a few. Marrone and the staff are using Spiller as he should be used. The kickoff run back for a TD and the long run in the second half were both critical plays in this game. Playmakers are very difficult to acquire. When you have an opportunity to get that type of impact player you should seize the opportunity and then put that player in a position to succeed.
Watkins is another scintillating player who was well worth the high cost to acquire. As you noted although he was the focal point of the passing game he was still open all day long. One of his attributes that has amazed me is his strong hands. As well as he played it is obvious that he is impaired with the lingering painful rib injury. I suspect that he won't be fully healed this year. He is a tough dude!
As you noted Graham was a tremendous signing. At this very early point in the season he is the most dependable CB. He is a smart and mature player. Bill, I'm imploring you not to prejudge Gilmore. I feel very strongly that he is going to be an upper tier CB. He is not fully healthy and he is still rusty. Be patient with him and you will be richly rewarded with a high caliber CB who will regularly be assigned the best receiver on the offense. Go against your instincts and trust me on this one. I will not lead you astray!
Prior to the season Marrone was asked on WGR who he felt was the most improved player. Without any hesitation he said it was Bradham. It's apparent that not only has he improved but he has taken a quantum leap forward this season.
Mario Williams is a force and Kyle Williams is an interior dynamo. There isn't a defensive lineman in the league who knows how to utilize leverage like KW. He is a leader on this team not by the way he speaks up but by the way he plays.
Accolades should be directed toward Hackett for the way he is handling EJ. Hackett is running a very simple low risk offense for EJ. Most of his passes (especially the short roll out passes) are safe passes and not multiple read plays. Without a doubt as the season advances the OC will be adding to the offense and giving EJ more downfield passes. Because our defense has so far played well there is little pressure on EJ to force plays in order to catch up. Manuel is showing a lot of maturity by not forcing the issue and being impatient. Not asking him to do too much and having him play cautiously is the right approach to take with him. At this point EJ is playing adequately enough. If he steadily gets better then I will be more than satisfied. In my view he is not the type of qb who is going to make the quantum leap forward. Steady progression is what I am now seeing and what I hope to continue to see.
It's very early in the season but so far Whaley has made some nice moves. Making the trade up for Waktins, acquiring Graham, Dixon, the drafting of the risky Henderson were smart moves this year. Last year's trade of Sheppard for Hughes and the acquisition of Lawson were also positive transactions. Whaley is very invested in the development of EJ. So far his coaching staff is handling him in a very smart and judicious manner that will give him the best chance to succeed.
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We get it. Your guy is terrific & can do no wrong. EJ had a very good game but that pass to Woods was poorly thrown.Yes, because the notion of "putting the ball where only the receiver can get it," is foreign. And "throwing it up and letting the receiver go up and come down with it," was never employed by any good quarterbacks.
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I'm an old guy. Will someone please tell me - what's Donkey Kong & why it is racist. Thank you.That was freaking hilarious. I'm guessing that Cam keeps a hookah pipe in his car.
I am going to start calling people that randomly. What up Donkey Kong Suh?
Don't go all Donkey Kong Suh on me!
You stupid Donkey Kong Suh Mother F*****!
Don't make me b-slap your ass like Donkey Kong Suh!
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We miss Kiko covering backs out of the backfield.Preston Brown did not play well - they were trying to cover up for him on defense the entire game. His head is spinning out there.
Agreed. McKelvin was solid. Love the player that he has become.
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Kiko covers backs on swing passes better than anyone that I have seen.I miss Kiko...
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Agree with all of the above.Just plain garbage from Sully. Don't usually bother, but I had to see what he'd come up with all this optimism thanks to LaCanfora.
So he basically espouses the brilliance of offensive mastermind Marc Trestman. If Brandon and company had hired a CFL guy after Chan, he'd have lambasted them.
And I'd hope that having Cutler at the controls is part of the reason Trestman's O lit up the stat sheet compared with the greenhorn a rookie like Marrone had.
Columnist-wise, it's just a fishwrap and little else.
One coach has a vet QB & 2 of the best WR's in the game. The other coach has a rookie QB & 2 undrafted free agents along with very average WR's.
What exactly was the record for both teams - pretty much the same.
Players make the coach. The best example is Belicheat. He had a losing record before Brady & he is called a genius after Brady.
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I'm 6'1" & 230. That's the size of the FB we just signed to the PS. I just can't see myself, even when I was younger, banging heads with any of the NFL Defensive players.NICE THREAD! Good job.
at 235 pounds I feel so svelt!
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I thought that the 2 people objecting to the 60.5% labor contract were Ralph & Paul Brown.The actual logic here is this:
More money and non-relocation are actually the same thing for the true decision-maker her which is the NFL as a whole and is NOT simply the Trust, or any individual team owner and bidder.
Many people (and apparently you) make a correct assumption that the ultimate decision will be made for the option which gives the decision-maker the most money. This is true!
However, the mistake for your logical conclusion is not understanding that different options deliver different levels of money to the NFL as whole (the ultimate decision-maker in this process) or to the individual seller (The Trust in the Bills case) and the highest bidder (who definitely maximizes the $ for the Bills but MAY not also maximize the $ received by the NFL.
To understand this, first take a step back and think about this logically rather than worry about the real world specifics in the Bills case (yet, because when you look at what is really happening so far the logic of the case I am making best explains this situation as we know it).
It is clear that the Trust pretty simply makes the most money for itself by selling to the highest bidder and getting out of dodge with as much money as it can hang onto after capital gains and estate taxes.
However, lets say the highest the highest bidder while giving the Trust the desired (and some have even claimed required) tons of money where does this leave the NFL. Lets say the highest bidder is someone anathema to the NFL either because he is an idiot or even worse hurts the product because his riches come from some unpopular activity (such as the big buck guy is some Saudi Arabian oil magnate who is actually an uncle of Osana bin Laden).
Under the high bidder or Trust rules theory , the NFL would have no choice because what the owner wants is what rules.
No.
The NFL is not going to be forced to do something which huts its business merely because an individual owner says so )in fact we saw an example of this in another sports league, the NBA where the other owners grouped together and forced the owner of the Clippers pretty quickly to sell his franchise.
Its even more clear cut in the NFL than in the NBA where Ralph Wilson (and thus the Trust) have agreed contractually that any new owner the Trust sales to must win the votes of 75% of the other owners or no deal.
The NFL has an effective veto over who owns the Bills.
Do you understand that the NFL is ultimate decision-maker here? Do you understand that the profit of the whole NFL trumps (not Donald but literally) the profit-making for an individual team. In essence, the Trust has already agreed by contract to give up its individual free market ability to do whatever they want because the individual teams long ago figured out that they can make more $ individually in a structure governed by the social compact of NFL team owners working together collaboratively.
The big economic shift in the NFL began way back when with Pete Rozelle championing such anti-individual reward ideas such as giving the worst teams the highest draft picks. In a traditional free market the better performers would be rewarded by attracting the better players to their winning teams, the bad teams would simply die off in the free market unless they got better in order to attract better players.
Instead of pursuing free market competition as the mechanism for improvement the NFL instead installed a draft/ FA, and waiver bidding system which rewards the worst performing teams on the field, but does help the overall product maintain equality. In fact, if there was a real free market which operates in the real world by roughly 50% of businesses going out of business in their first 5 years, the NFL simply could not operate and the true cash cow, the TV networks would not obligate the money they give to the individual owners.
The real problem for the traditional owner model types came with the mid-80s labor dispute. The team owners so effectively destroyed the AFL-CIO types who lypes who led the NFLPA, that a talented tenth of players led by Gene Upshaw linked up with some smart lawyers and instead threatened to decertify the NFLPA as a bargaining agent.
The team owners then realized that they needed to abandon any pretense of a traditional free market and signed the CBA which essentially broadedned the social compact which controlled the NFL tp include the NFLPA as partners.
The TV nets then stepped forward and signed long term deals which gave the owners even more money as expansion of the social contract gave labor peace.
The a few years CBA then called for renegotian after a few years, and even before negotiation Upshaw announce that the new deal would now extend the salary cap to all gross revenues and that the player share reflected in the salary cap would need to start with a 6.
The final deal was negotiated by Paul Tagliabue and the NFLPA hired lawyers and gave the players 60.5% of the take (arguably making thm not only partners but the majority partners of the NFL. In the end, the NFL accepted this deal over the objections of only Ralph and the GB Packers. The 75& threshold was agreed to within this context.
It matters what the Trust wants, but only 1/32 nd of the ultimate decision.
As far as the JBJ group, this whole thing was a joke to those of us who feel we understand the economics here. For the Trust it might give them the biggest $ to take a bid from the CA group. However, for the other 31/32 that really controls this thing, the best fiscal deal is to have franchises in BOTH Buffalo and Toronto.
The NFL not only wants to get more money they do not give away money. If the Bills left Buffalo they would be walking away from 45,000+ season ticket holders, the 25,000+ that routinely buy individual tickets, the millions from WNY advertisers, and 100s millons in corporate welfare which would not go to ON.
Why throw this away when your avowed longterm plan is to expand and you can have BOTH Buffalo and ON momey.
This team ain't gpoin no where
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Why not? Would they think that Mallett would somehow roll over N.E. ?How do you know they passed on Mallett? Maybe they expressed interest, but were denied. What makes you think the Pats would trade him to a division foe?
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I mentioned this in a previous post. He can hit a WR on a square in but not in stride. It is a very big negative in his game.Personally, my issue with EJ has never been with what I have seen but rather with what his issues are. I don't ever remember a QB that became more accurate or learned to see the field faster. If EJ was not understanding the playbook or making poor reads I may agree with you. You can learn where to throw based on different defensive formations and/or tendencies. You can't learn to hit guys in stride.
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It's easy to get a high completion % when you are dinking & dunking. K.O. likes to throw deep. An average QB to be sure, but for now, he is at least reliable.Not one to pat myself on the back, I will leave it to others.
His completion percentage begs to differ.
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I agree. Unless EJ starts lighting it up, Orton will be starting by week 4 or so. Orton is no star, but he at least can light it up occasionally & win games by himself. He is a journeyman, but a good journeyman. AND he can actually throw passes over 10 yards.Dude, he's like 31 and he's pretty dang good. He's efficient. He will be our starter at some point this year. I guarantee it.
They brought in Palmer to play the last meaningless game. Someone had to play QB.Good move for once, but why not do this instead of the waste of time that was bringing in Palmer?
No absolute need to bring in Ponder or Pryor to replace Tuel but it would be nice.
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Matt Scott is a Russell Wilson type of player. Like him as a backup.Ponder would be best but I think the Vikes would be smart to hold onto him. I like Chase Daniel but he has a decent contract and doubt he is cut.
Matt Scott and Trent have already been cut
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I seem to remember a game with the NYG when Wade was coach. We were winning & had the ball with perhaps 1-2 minutes to go. We were 4th & inches around midfield. Make it & the game is over. Miss it & the GMen have a short field to kick the winning FG. BTW - we couldn't stop them all day. If we punt, the GMen would have to go probably 50 yds in a minute & a half to win.I think the thing thats missing from this discussion is the all mighty dollar. THE ONLY thing the suits care about is ratings, because ratings=Advertising dollars. Schopp and the Bulldog consistently win that spot. WHY? becasue its commute time and as much as we ALL HATE the hosts.(more on that later), we all Have no choice if we want to listen to pure LOCAL sports talk. With everything going on, (preseason, cuts, new stadium, New ownership, Harbor center, etc ) I at least tune in for a half anhour and listen on the way home at least through 1 update. I think Most ofus are like that. So no matter how much we hate it, it wins, and thats all advertisers care about ishow many people are going to hear my ad.
I hate Shcopp for all of the reasons that everyone mentions. I don't mind critisicm when I feel the person knows what the hell they are talking about, and Schopp clearly dosn't. He's talking about never punting and running fake plays, and all this high school crap. THAT will not work at the NFL level. Even if you got the 1st down 1/2 the time, that means your giving your oponent points half the time... and NOT by any stretch guaranteeing that you will get points half the time too, its stupid. it just won't work in the long term. And fake punts don't work if the other team KNOWS your going to do it. He thinks Madden=Real life. He thinks he is just SOOO much smarter than football people. He acts like NOONE has ever tried this. THEY have, it failed, and they were fired. Its real easy to tell someone to go for it, and never punt when its not YOUR JOB on the line or your familiies future. Its just maddeing to listen to him espouse this stuff like a bored roman dictator who simply wants to be entertained. Its not just the fact that he isn't a fan of the Bills, he dosn't much care for Football or the league.
He thinks punting from the 45 is a bad idea. I don't if you have a good punter, and a good defense you cna pin your opponent deep, and the chances of stopping him go way up. The chances of a defensive TD go way up. Its the high percentage play. Its not exciting... Now punting from the opponent 45 in the 4th quarter when your trailing by 2 is a bad idea....
MY best hope would be SAL and joe in the afternoons, with Hamilton sitting in during hockey season.
Wade went for it, failed & the GMen won.
The next day, Wade was crucified in the press. Probably from the same people that are always talking about going against common football orthodoxy. Guys like Schopp probably never played sports. He was probably a cheerleader, high school paper reporter, or responsible for getting the uniforms cleaned for the next game. Why do people get annoyed when he spouts his lack of knowledge? I listen, but usually just roll my eyes.
Go Bills
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Laughed out loud.And, the players up there are forced to wear rouge. That may be well and good for the canucks, but try telling these NFL players to wear makeup.
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BullHis throwing motion is Tebowesque, for starters.
Ej lost the game
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Of course, if EJ could play QB, I think we would be saying that Hackett is a pretty good OC.