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On 2/17/2022 at 5:08 PM, Albany,n.y. said:
Every taxpayer pays for stuff that they don't care about & will never use.
In the real world, not some fantasy world, teams move if the government doesn't kick in some of the stadium costs because there will always be somewhere else where the politicians will pay to get a team to move there.
Now there may be exceptions in rare cases, but even the biggest cities have experienced franchise relocations. The Giants & Jets moved to a different state even within the same metropolitan area & the Bears are threatening to move out of the city of Chicago to the 'burbs.
The Giants and Jets did the right thing and got their stadium without government funding I believe. Blackmail does seem to run rampant in the NFL, I agree. And politicians in fear for their jobs don't want to be blamed for teams relocating out of a city so in many cases it works.
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On 2/17/2022 at 4:10 PM, Estro said:
Yet nobody wanted to go to games this past season. Outside of the Steelers game, demand for tickets was as bad as I can ever remember.
I have never tried to sell a Bills ticket. But the stadium sure looked full during the "fair weather" games. Even in the Kelly/Thurman years the winter weather games were a bit of a hard sell. Didn't look like "nobody wanted to go" to me from my couch watching on my HD TV (technology I'm sure did have a impact on ticket sales).
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On 2/17/2022 at 6:41 PM, BUFFALOBART said:
WE can start a 'Go Fund Me' page, to buy you a one way ticket, to Nunavut.
A GoFundme page for a new Bills stadium is a good idea though. Allow the hardworking people that want to, contribute to the billionaires stadium that the millionaires play 8 regular season games in a year. I wonder how embarrassed the Pegulas would be to have a GoFundMe page setup for them.
On 2/17/2022 at 6:28 PM, Mr. WEO said:It won't happen because the Giants/Jets stadium was privately funded.
This fact seems to elude far too many people. They all should be funded that way IMO.
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2 hours ago, WotAGuy said:
If you are selling off many games on the secondary market and bitching about the low return, just buy tickets on the secondary market and ditch the seasons. If you aren’t going to every game, maybe the economics will work out.
He might be trying to pay for his Bills habit that way. I used to do the same with the Sabres, you know, waaaaaay back when they looked like a NHL team. Living 1+ hours from the stadium I'd sell a lot of weekday games and go with friends or my kids on weekends and the occasional weekday game. I'd always sell for more than my cost, particularly habs and leafs games. Selling those games paid for the games I went to. Granted with only 8 home games, its much harder to do that for the NFL.
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1 hour ago, Albany,n.y. said:
So you want the Bills to move out of Buffalo. Got it.
Nonsensical leap there. I want the NFL and the billionaire owners to pay for their stadiums. If they feel the need, stick it to fans with PSL's. But what I don't want is people who could not care less about a team, Bills or otherwise, to pay for a billionaires stadium that multimillionaires play 8 games a year in.
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On 2/15/2022 at 1:53 PM, Albany,n.y. said:
The state took in over $70 million the 1st 30 days of mobile sports betting. Since without the sports leagues there are no games to bet on, should the state be taking some of the gambling revenues to help build the Bills new stadium and also support future stadium and arena renovations and upgrades to the state's major league sports teams.
One of the biggest complaints from the non sports fans is they don't want their tax dollars spent on stadiums they'll never go to. The money from gambling comes almost exclusively from the fans most interested in the teams, blunting the non sports fans argument.
I say use some of the gambling profits to build our new stadium. Yes, I'm aware this would require some political maneuvering.
Absolutely not. NFL betting is a small fraction of bets. Particularly when you look at a year, not just NFL playoffs and superbowl time. The NFL, it's teams, and it's fans should fund stadiums, full stop. The NFL and teams in particular certainly can afford it.
21 hours ago, drumizen said:The stadium being built generates money and fuels the economy of the area. Not just for football fans, for all of the taxpayers in that area. It helps Hotels, small businesses, attracts more people to the area Etc. The idea that taxpayers are paying for the City to own a stadium and not getting benefit is flawed.
I keep hearing this nonsense. 8 days a year in general you are talking about. Maybe a few concerts if it was domed. "fuels the economy", for gods sake.
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1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:
What is really interesting is a lot of the way you guys describe you reduced interest with the NFL is similar to how I describe my reduced interest in soccer:
- too much on TV it takes over the whole week;
- watch Arsenal and other big games but often don't even bother with other live games;
- the over officiating and replay drives me mad, preferred when the refs were crap and we all knew they were crap but we got on with it;
- the game has driven out the fans that made it in many ways with ticket pricing etc
- over commercialisation;
But in contrast I consume as much football as ever. I watch the 8 to 10 NFL games in full most weeks of the season.
So in your opinion, soccer ticket prices are too high and it is over commercialized to the point you have reduced interest in the game. But those things are not true for tackle football???
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9 minutes ago, Estro said:
Is anybody else prepared to walk away if the Bills want 5-10k just for the right to keep your seats?
There won't be many. And for those that do, there will be others to buy them up. Particularly seats like yours. The team playing well after a long suck period, and the border open. Bills fans in general will pay whatever is asked. Look at how many kept paying even during the decade of suck to "support their team".
It pisses a lot of people off that the state will throw money at it, myself included. It should all be paid for by the team, the NFL, and the fans that go to the games.
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2 minutes ago, Mij yllek said:
Since they went far left, anti-American politically, I stopped watching altogether. I PVR Bills games and watch them in less than an hour and only if they win. So many better things to do with the 3+ hours I save.
Political opinions aside, that is really at the heart of the matter IMO. A 4 hour TV broadcast for about 20 minutes of actual action. Even with my solution of no commercials and skipping halftime, I still have all the dead time between plays, clock stoppages and so on which brings my time per game up to 90 - 120 minutes.
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1 hour ago, stuvian said:
I still love it but giving up 4 hours per game I am having an increasingly difficult time justifying
I watch only the Bills, conference championships and the superbowl. And even the Bills games I record and have my system automatically skip commercials on playback to reduce the time spent watching significantly. I have been steadily losing interest in the NFL for years. I think a combination of having a family and therefore better things to do, and the over commercialization and over saturation of the NFL. Sunday, sunday monday and thursday nights, really? Maybe I'm actually finally growing up <gasp>
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On 2/7/2022 at 8:36 AM, djp14150 said:
One is Colin Jost of SNL weekend update and his wife Scarlett Johansson doing Amazon Alexa ad.
That ended up being my favorite.
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4 hours ago, gordong said:
top defense... WOW can we just let that go please.
Syracuse entity doesn't want to bite the hand that feeds them.
But could the Bills look attractive to some top but aging talent looking for a ring ... perhaps.
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20 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:20 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:
Look at Vic suddenly with his finger on the pulse of the entire NFL. Or ball washing his golden goose, you make the call
Either way, only time will tell. Josh is likely happy, so there's that! McCoach is a defensive guy who makes questionable in game decisions so Dorsey will need to be able to stand on his own two feet.
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1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said:
I want the Rams to win it. I like McVay and Stafford, a UGA Dawg had to suffer for playing with the Lions for so long.
This, I would like to see Stafford get one after wallowing in Detroit for so many years.
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20 hours ago, dave mcbride said:
My theory is that the coin toss doesn't matter so much in a Jax-vs.-Carolina or WFT-vs.-Giants OT regular season game. The offenses just aren't good and struggle to move the ball via the air. In the NFL playoffs, practically all the teams are good, and most have excellent QBs who can surgically dissect tired defenses. There's just a huge quality gap between run of the mill teams and a much narrower field heavily populated by the likes of Mahomes, Brady, Allen, Rodgers, Russell Wilson, etc.
Yeah that could be I suppose. But at the same time you would think better defenses as well (sundays game notwithstanding
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57 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:
67 percent won on the opening drive. Of the other three games, the team that got the ball first (Houston vs. Buffalo and the Giants vs. SF) won in OT. Basically, they had one extra possession than the other team. So 8 out of 9 -- 89 percent -- benefitted from winning the coin toss.
How people posting on this thread who support the current rules can look past this is beyond me.
It's not about just this game, although if we were the beneficiaries we'd thank our lucky stars for a lucky coin toss. It's the fact that 2/3 of of playoff games over the past decade plus have ended with only one team getting the ball and with the coin flip winner winning 89 percent of the time.
I wonder why the percentages of playoff teams who win the coin toss winning the game are so different than regular season (19.4% opening drive, 52.7% win). Maybe just as simple as a significantly smaller sample size? If it truly was 89% overall with the entire sample size I would have expected teams and fans would have been up in arms already. For me 89% is a epic fail and would require a change to the rule. But a small sample size producing that result wouldn't lead me to a rule change.
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6 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said:
Steve Smith is currently on WFNZ in Charlotte right now. Said exactly what I said above. “ The rules are fine, unless you’re a Bills fan.”
Agreed, Bills win the toss and the game in the same way and this thread does not exist.
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18 minutes ago, Limeaid said:
Or more precisely fix did not work first time. When the doctor "fixes" it this way usually there is a suit asking for money to support,
Three best ways to fix NFL overtime after Chiefs' wild playoff win over Bills brings OT rules under scrutiny
How to fix? CBS writer had 3 ideas.
The team that gets the first possession and wins outright like last night happens 19.4% of the time.
The team that gets the first possession wins overall 52.6% of the time.
Not allowing the other team a possession when a FG was scored was broken as kicking 50+ yard FGs has become almost commonplace, particularly indoors. Yeah it stings that the Bills D sucked so bad last night, but it is meant to be sudden death, not lingering death. It ain't broke IMO, so don't "fix" it.
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12 hours ago, IronMaidenBills said:
Our offense is already legit. I mean sure we could use some more o-linemen. But we already punt nearly the lowest in the league. Keep drafting defense? We have wasted how many picks there already. Go after FAs? We are already near cap space. It’s so frustrating. I’m the the point where we need to get another star CB as an insurance policy and maybe someone dedicated to be able to guard TEs, and then also focus on o-linemen. If we draft another DE or DT at this point I’m going to be disappointed.
Need running back(s) for sure. Running Allen as much as they need to now is going to bite them in the ass down the road.
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11 hours ago, VaMilBill said:
Dumbest decision all night at the absolute worst time. It would have killed 4-5 seconds and given them about same field position. Stupid
I've heard this from local talking heads as well but I disagree. The choices as I see them were:
1) Squib or kick it high and short to force a return in theory to burn some clock. The problem with this is you put the ball in the hands of Hill with some open field in front of him. Hill is the fastest and shiftiest player in the NFL and had been giving the Bills a thorough screwing all game. Not a great option IMO.2) Kick away and make Mahomes go 75 yards in just over a minute and 3 timeouts. The way the Bills D played all game also not a wonderful option, but not difficult to believe your #1 rated defense in several categories could pull their heads out of their butts for a few seconds of game time and close out the game.
I have said for some time I don't believe McCoach makes good in game decisions. Too much with his heart and not enough with his head. But I don't have any problem with that decision at all.
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Nice to see a positive thread tonight. A nice change from "fire everyone". The Rochester talking heads after the game were calling it the best game in playoff history. I disagree. Neither defense played worth a crap and should be incredibly embarrassed. Craziest last few minutes, absolutely.
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54 minutes ago, Motorin' said:
This right here... Stock up at Wegmans before the game.
Yup, post game tailgate. Of course you'll need to make sure everything doesn't freeze during the game
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On 1/12/2022 at 7:01 PM, Success said:
TV's have gotten bigger.
And couches more comfortable.
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On 1/13/2022 at 5:33 PM, Bills fan since 87 said:
To some of us it means more.
That's for sure.
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Growing speculation that Stephen Ross might be forced to sell Dolphins(EDIT: Has succession plan in place to cede controlling interest to Bruce Beal if need be)
in The Stadium Wall
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Cancel culture what it is in the US these days, the claims might not even need to be true.