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Sisyphean Bills

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  1. Oh man this Trump victory is the gift that keeps on giving. i was ready to enjoy the salty tears no matter how the election went, but in retrospect, the Dem's reactions are the best. Is there such a thing as schadenfreude overload?

     

    Thank you America!

     

    I don't know about what's "best". It's pretty amusing that Reps are coming out of the woodwork with a hundred sales pitches an hour for their guy. I mean, didn't Trump !@#$ing win the election?

  2. It's a penalty whether the play was fully live or he was offsides and blown dead. He hit the kickers leg. Hard. It's roughing. It's totally on Sherman.

     

    As others have said up thread, it is not true that hitting a kicker's leg is a penalty. If a defensive player touches the ball then the kicker (and either or both of his legs) are fair game.

     

    I recall an NFL game where a punt was blocked, the player who blocked the kick continued and ran through and over the punter, and drove him so hard into the ground that his helmet spun around on his head. Not only did the punter limp off the field, he broke his nose.

     

    It's football.

  3. It doesn't work. ... These days with the new CBA with reduced off season work, it's even harder. It's fine to draft a guy every couple of years, or draft a guy solely as a development guy, like the Bills did this year with Jones.

     

    I disagree with this. The situation in the current NFL is that there is free agency. That means that a team doesn't necessarily keep the players it drafts. They sign their second contract with someone else. Also the NFL CBA has limited the number of draft picks, so there are no longer 12 or 16 or more rounds. The value of draft capital has risen. Teams can't draft a Johnny Unitas in the 9th or a Roger Staubach in the 10th round. Furthermore there is far less stability in the coaching ranks. A coaching staff that starts to develop a project QB could be fired years before the project shows anything.

     

    So given the Bills situation, where the coach is on a hot seat (at least in many fans view) and the incumbent starting QB is mediocre, it doesn't help your team in the "hot pocket" era to draft a guy who is considered "years away, if ever." Even if he "gets it" and develops quicker than expected, he may only start getting on the field in the final year of his first deal. And then a team can be faced with the Brock Osweiler decision. Some other team may inflate the price to keep a guy who is still a suspect and a project and who no one knows is for real or not.

     

    But not every situation is the same. A team with some stability and that already has a Hall-of-Famer starting (Brady, Favre, Peyton, etc.) can — and should — draft development QBs. It's smart to have Aaron Rodgers developing right behind Brett Favre when you know Favre isn't going to play forever.

     

    And we've all seen the Rams situation, which is reminiscent of the Bills the year they drafted EJM. They have a veteran QB who looks good in practice (apparently) and not so much in games — and both are former UH QBs. (Though for the Bills, the terrible KK tripped on a rubber mat and disappeared.) They got a 1st round rookie and an unknown guy, and some people say they like the unknown guy more. (Thad Lewis had a higher QB rating than EJM; we're set!)

  4. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SpilC.00.htm

     

    CJ easily experienced his best years under Chan in Buffalo. Has he all of a sudden gained some field vision or become more durable? No. Has he gotten any smarter? Probably not. But getting to go to a team where he is completely familiar with the offense and knows how it runs is definitely a plus for him as well as the Jets. Don't be surprised if he puts up decent backup numbers in NY. I just hope he doesn't pull some :censored: against us and break a long TD or anything in the 2nd matchup.

     

    So what you are really saying is Chan knows how to get CJ to space. B-)

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    Cleveland dominated this trade...this is a seriously suspect trade on the Pats side of things. Remember, all this trade gained for the Pats was accelerate and guarantee a 3rd round comp pick for Collins (he was almost certain to warrant a 3rd round comp pick in 2018 for them anyway). What it lost was the most talented player on their defense for the rest of the year when it looks like they are making a strong superbowl run. Even if he didn't "do his job," he should have been benched and used for depth/injury-security.

     

    Any non-brainwashed Pats fan should admit this was a mistake.

     

    On the Browns' end of things...whatever. They will be rebuilding this offseason and next. If they don't resign him they get the 3rd round comp pick for losing him in 2018. Meanwhile they can evaluate him closely this year and have the inside track to get him via extension if they can reach a price point. He's also probably the most talented player on the entire team at this time...regardless of occasional "freelancing"...

     

    I won't be surprised to see Collins' play and stock free fall like he stepped into an empty elevator shaft.

  6. That still doesn't sway the fact that the team entered the season with basically three rookie QB's on the roster as Kolb was injured and placed on IR Aug 30th. I think the team also signed Matt Flynn and even Matt Leinhart for a short time too.

     

    It still doesn't deter that the team went forward with literally no help for those three young QB's besides a guy who had no NFL experience as an NFL OC, QB coach in Hackett! The blind leading the blind comes to mind.

     

    Lewis was an undrafted FA by the Rams in 2010 and the Browns claimed him off waivers 2011 where he spent 2012 on their practice squad. Lewis did actually play in one NFL game for Cleveland against Pittsburgh in 2012 so he did have one game start in one single game. He was waived by the Browns in 2013 and picked up by Detroit for their practice squad. So no, he wasn't an actual rookie. But he sure wasn't a veteran QB that could have helped teach the real rookies.

     

    Jeff Tuel was a waste of a roster spot and any veteran QB in the league would have been so very helpful in showing EJ and Lewis the NFL ropes during that season. This was also Marrone's fault for not hiring a decent QB coach too.

     

     

    Just saying that as a first round draft pick EJ was put into a very, very difficult position to develop his craft and about as bad as it could get with no veteran QB help, no NFL QB coach, an NFL offensive coordinator with no NFL experience as an NFL OC. This with a bad offensive line that graded at 22nd because the LT was playing above average and was near worst in the league at other positions. It doesn't get much worse for a rookie QB than that.

     

    The Bills brass went all in on the idea that the NFL was becoming identical to the college game. If it doesn't work out, recruit some new hamburger the next year and schedule more Youngstown States.

  7. Same can kinda be said for EJ. I'll always wonder how it would have played out if we could have had a vet bridge the gap for a couple years while EJ sat and learned behind an Offensive minded HC and real OC (not Marrone/Hackett).

     

    I'm not trying to hold onto lost causes, just find it interesting for the sake of discussion.

     

    As a pure hypothetical, we can speculate, but no one will ever know. EJM wasn't drafted in the first round by a team that could afford to let him sit around indefinitely. And there is a case to be made that letting young QBs drafted that high sit on a bench through most of their first contract just isn't the way the NFL operates any longer (though before free agency, it was fairly common).

     

    Also, it's worth noting that sometimes one can flip the switch back and forth with at much frequency, vigor, and astonishment as one can dredge up, and it just doesn't change the fact that the light isn't going to go on. Tim Graham got vilified on these boards for his quick determination that EJM might just be as shiny as a string of dead Xmas bulbs, if anyone remembers. Time's passed, and nothing has really changed as far as the equation.

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