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Mr. WEO

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  1. 17 hours ago, Rocky Landing said:

    Good heavens. 

    If your point is that every one of these WRs was brought in to fill some role as a... WR, then, uh... I guess I agree with you(?). But, if you're still trying to sell some point that all of these guys were brought in to fill the same role that Hollins will likely fill (which again, is a #4-#6 situational WR, and core ST, with the bonus of being a leader on the practice field) then you're still wrong.

     

    I can't make the point any more clearly.  Sorry man, tried to help.

     

    Hollins will be gone in a year.

  2. 17 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

    Metcalf ran a 10.36 100M. Harbor ran 10.12!! That’s faster than Tyreek Hill (10.19). He’s also an inch taller and 5 lbs. heavier than DK. Metcalf is the closest comp but as I said, “we have never seen this.” We haven’t. Harbor is still only 18 so who knows where he ends up.

     

     

     

    .14 seconds is spitting a hair---we've seen this very guy in DK.  We shall see if this kid makes it that far. 

     

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  3. 17 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

    His first start is statistically the worst first start for a QB in NFL history. 

    Add the fact he got three more starts just fuels my anti-McDermott opinions. 

     

    That said you could probably substitute Trentative, Manuel, Losman, and Orton in there as well. All of them sucked the joy out of watching games.  I know many would add TT but I liked his game for what it was worth. He didn't turn the ball over and we had a top 5 scoring offense with him and Roman. Rex just destroyed the Schwartz defense to ruin it. 

     

    All true--and better choices I think.

     

    McD was hell bent on not starting Josh his rookie year.  His "QB competition" in the pre season was a sham. 

    18 hours ago, NewEra said:

    But it’s only 6 games….he couldn’t have bothered him that much….

     

    I won't toss a drowning man a cinder block...

  4. 42 minutes ago, NewEra said:

    or maybe Peterman did bother him too much as he took the time to single him out as the guy that frustrated him the most. 
     

    Percy Harvin had 6 starts.  Couldn’t have bothered @GunnerBilltoo much, no?   Or maybe he actually did and you’re just a troll here for one reason.  

     

    Maybe @GunnerBill also was bothered because he saw Harvin's work on 4 other teams in 6 seasons before he got to the Bills---or did you think he came to his conclusion that Harvin is "One of the most overrated NFL players of his generation" based on 7 games with the Bills?

     

    Think harder!!  

  5. 9 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

     

     

    When Beane traded a 3rd round pick for Kelvin Benjamin in his 4th year, and assumed his fully-guaranteed 5th year option (already picked up by CAR) he expected him to "solve his WR room issues".  Emmanuel Sanders was also brought in to start as a John Brown replacement, a guy fast enough to get open down field and be #2 opposite Diggs.  Jameson Crowder was brought in as Plan B in case McKenzie couldn't justify increased playing time.  Those 3 guys were, in fact, intended to be starters or potential starters ("solve issues in the WR room"). Benjamin got injured and lost motivation, Sanders and Crowder just got injured.  Bad on Beane that he couldn't predict that I guess?  Sanders and Crowder played well before they were injured.

     

    Deonte Harty was a whiff by Beane, I grant that.

     

    If you're trying to make a "simple" point that the rest of that gang were brought in to "solve our WR issues", your point sailed "wide right.  Andre Holmes, Andre Roberts, Jake Kumerow, Trent Sherfield, and now Mack Hollins were brought in as excellent ST who could "back up" the starters at WR.  That would be a very strange definition of "brought in to solve WR issues".   [Folks here can disagree that it's worthwhile to give a #5 or #6 slot to a ST player, but it's how Beane and McDermott roll, and that's different than pretending they were "brought in to solve our WR issues".  They weren't.

     

    Duke Williams and Andy Isabella were both brought in as guys with the physical talent to succeed in the NFL, who could play on the Scout Team and maybe be elevated and fill in for a game or two if someone got hurt.  I know it fights the "narrative" here, but same is true of Brown and Beasley 2.0: they weren't brought in to "solve WR issues", they were signed to the PS to be elevated and available in case of injury to starters at the end of the season, when we had already lost 2 WR to IR.

     

    Kerley Thompson, and Pryor were signed in 2018, when we didn't have a WR room beyond Fat Kelvin and Bath Salts Jones.

     

     

     

    Kerley joined a room that also included  Robert Foster in 2018...were Kerley and Pryor brought in for ST?

     

    Sanders as a #2, "stretching the field"...on his 6th team in 12 years (4th in 3 seasons)?  At age 34?  Come on!  Anyway he sprained his knee in week 14, back in week 16. They released him at the end and he retired.

     

    Andre Holmes and Andre Roberts were brought in as excellent ST players and "backup starters" at WRs?  They were backing up the star packed WR room of Benjamin, Bath Salt Jones, "Kerley Thompson and Pryor"??  good point!

     

    Crowder was pushing 30 , sparing used in 4 games then got hurt. As a receiver in the NFl, he was pretty much done--except the inept Commanders couldn't resist giving him more money for nothing. 

     

    As it turns out, Duke Williams clearly did not have the talent to play in the NFL---and he had never demonstrated such before Beane figured he would be good enough for the Bills.  Isabella has yet to make any impact at all in the NFL.  He touched the ball once for the Bills.  25 ST snaps.  2 Offensive snaps.  It's a waste of a roster spot--a guy you can't use anywhere.

     

    Brown (32.0), despite being passed around by 3 teams the previous season (and recording zero catches), was "elevated" off the PS 5 days after signing and played in their next 2 games.  Other receivers in the game were Diggs, Davis, McKenzie, Knox, Shakir.....

     

    The draft was always available to address the WR room...

     

     

  6. 1 hour ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

    Player: Peterman and it's not close. Only time I ever left a Bills game was Bills at LA Chargers.  Honorable mentions for Flutie, Benjamin, Spiller, Watkins, and Whitner.

     

    Coach: Gregg Williams. Couldn't stand him. Neither could Drew Bledsoe. I met Drew a few times when he was playing with Buffalo and he said Williams was a total ass and players hated him. 

     

    GM: Levy. Knew it was a horrible idea to let Marv be GM. 

     

    Peterman had 4 starts.  couldn't have bothered you too much...

  7. On 5/25/2024 at 4:08 PM, Rocky Landing said:

    I'm not even sure what point you're trying to make here. If Hollins makes the 53, he'll be #4 on the depth chart at best, and a likely core special teamer. Somehow that long, and varied list of WRs has something to do with Hollins? If you're in search of some sort of confirmation bias on Beane's ability to build a roster, I'd say you have fallen short.

     

    The point is simple.  The above guys were brought in by Beane to solve his WR room issues. All made the 53, all had at least one thread dedicated to the impact they were going to have.  How long did they last? One after another, they came and went, to be replaced by the next....

  8. On 5/25/2024 at 1:41 PM, ColoradoBills said:

     

    So you are of the belief that Ray Davis is only doing what he is does for "business"?

    That's a pretty cynical frame of thought.

     

    I do--and that's not a knock on what him and every rookie does once they roll into town.  I believe it's standard advice for them to team up with a charity, so they do so.

     

    It's not cynical to say this.

     

    On 5/25/2024 at 3:02 PM, muppy said:

    I can understand the advantage of a new athlete having someone guide him and navigate the logistics of Becoming a tax exempt charitable  organization as a business endeavor.

     

    His level of commitment , motivation and desire to serve in that new role  is something no one will know for certain except He himself..

     

    If the guys heart isn't involved well that sucks for everyone. I call That Lose Lose

     

    *shrugs*

     

     

     

    It's not a business endeavor for him, it's for the Bills and the NFL.

     

    We can't know if his heart is involved, but if he keeps his commitments to his chosen cause/charity, then that's fine too.  Win win.

     

  9. On 5/23/2024 at 10:07 PM, thenorthremembers said:

    Time to do away with college football.  Carter is one of the lucky 1.6% percent of college football players who were drafted to the NFL.   For the other 98.6% of college football players who will not go on to play in the NFL, having their tuition and degree paid for should be more than enough.  I am fine with the stars of college football being able to use their name and likeness to make money, but to actually pay these guys a paycheck to play football, give me a break.  

     

    Stop the nonsense.  Make a minor league system for football and stop giving away spots in classes for people who actually earn and need the degree long term. 

     

     

    You understand that NIL money is literally "actually paying these guys a paycheck to play football"...right?

  10. 1 hour ago, boater said:

    I like the character guys also.

     

    There are hard-boiled fans on here who don't care about a player's character--I'm sure they will speak up. They just want the best pure athlete available. They are the ones who complained on draft day about Beane selecting "another team Captain" as if that were a bad thing.

     

    Yes, Beane is very serious about the importance of the role of a "Captain"...will need a new slate of them.

     

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    Anyway, I assume most fans understand that such events and charities are scouted and set up by the player's agency and/or team.  It's part of the business.

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  11. Beane bringing in "a veteran/leader" to the WR room, you say?

     

    Now that I consider it, given Beane's track record at this, Hollis could well be the next Kelvin Benjamin/Andre Holmes/Deonte Thompson/Terelle Pryor/Jeremy Kerley/Andre Roberts/Duke Williams/Emanuel Sanders/Jameson Crowder/Brown+Beasely 2.0/Deonte Harty/Andy Isabella/Trent Sherfield...

     

    ... and that's just the list of jabronies who made the roster.

  12. On 5/23/2024 at 8:53 PM, DrW said:

     

    The problem is, this just shifts the question from "is this offensive holding?" to "is this egregious offensive holding?". I would be happy to see the penalty reduced to 5 yards. This will make it more difficult for the offensive team, but still gives them a chance. 

     

    leaving it a penalty doesn't solve it's inherent problem: that it is impossible to fairly enforce. 

     

    Beat your man or get beaten.

  13. 3 hours ago, Process said:

    Agree with Doc that defensive holding /illegal contact should not be an automatic first down. The holding calls were out of control last year, and they are significant/ game changing penalties right now with how they extend drives. Which is ridiculous for what are usually ticky tak calls that are not called consistently. 

    Also agree with this, with the exception that it should still exist for egregious instances only. An o lineman wraps his arm around a guys neck, or grabs a fist full of jersey from behind etc. 

     

     

    nah, let them grab the jersey too.  D-lineman has to beat that.

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