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Mr. WEO

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  1. 3 hours ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

     

    Ah okay. My bad then. Yeah, Josh would have to go nuclear then down this stretch including a W this Sunday against the Pats. Either way, both have to overcome Stafford's story book narrative. 

     

    Stafford's story book time came when he won a SB after joining the Rams.  He's statistically (other than yards) better this year, but there's no new angle to his story at this point.

  2. 30 minutes ago, ganesh said:

    hot streak was for the Chiefs...The chiefs had won 5 of their last 6 before walking into Highmark Stadium.  I believe they scored 30+ points in every one of these games.

     

    i guess if youn want to eliminate the 0-2 start, they might look a little jotter..

     

    But we all know the narrative of the Chiefs coiong into the Bills game wasn't "this is one of the hottest teams in the NFL", it was "what's wrong with the Chiefs?".  This has proven to be the real Chiefs for this year as they will miss the playoffs and the Offense looks totally lost.

     

    3 hours ago, Neo said:

     

     

    Playing Whac-A-Mole with the LAMP infected would certainly grow my post count, but come at the cost of sanity.

     

    Any meaningful reading of the word current, in the context of best quarterbacks in the NFL, would allow for, or even require, Mahomes, Burrow and Jackson.

     

    I’ll let you hang your “I’m relevant” hat on the astute grasp of the obvious that not everyone is at their best every down, quarter, game or even season.   That’s how you get, I suspect, to 50 thousand posts.  What insight and I’m grateful.

     

    The original post, and title, are certainly interesting, unexpected, and infrequent.     I will recognize LAMP instincts and nod approvingly as you point out any athlete at any time in any sport can have up or down performances.

     

    I will leave the last word to you, suspecting you covet it.     

     

    PS …. My Hyundai Genesis passed a Ferrari in the shop for an oil change on my way to work.    I currently have the better car.   True?  Perhaps in some oddly disinteresting way.    It is, however, an opportunity for me to interject on some Ferrari discussion board, throwing darts at things like gorillas fling poo, all the while building my post count.

     

    PSS … you didn’t name your four QBs for my hypothetical GM review.  You’re welcome to add the word “current,” a debatable point, perhaps, but one that doesn’t change the outcome.

     

    PSSS … there’s another topic today that begins with “When Kincaid plays the entire game the Bills are 7-1”.   Quick, go tell him that Kincaid has never played an entire game.   It’s a posting opportunity!

     

    Adieu!

     

     

     

     

     

    Hey--looks like you can now put Phil Rivers in your top 4 "current" QBs!

     

    Well played!

  3. 10 hours ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

     

    Disagree.

     

    Stafford has a better narrative. Vet QB who very well might be playing his last season and is putting together is best season to date. Both have great numbers so voters will have to decide based on narrative. Stafford's trump card is that voters know if they don't name him MVP this year he likely will never get another shot at the award. Voters will look at Maye and figure he has many more years of being in the conversation. 

     

    What Maye does have going for him is that Sunday night game in Baltimore in primetime in two weeks. Reminds me of two years ago when Baltimore destroyed the 49ers, mostly due to 5 combined interceptions between Purdy and Darnold, and the win locked up Lamar's MVP.

     

    Still, Maye is going to need Stafford to faulter down the stretch quite a bit. But at this point with 35 TD's and 4 games to go Stafford is a lock to get 40+ TD's and that is even if his play slips down the stretch. Him and Josh will probably be the only two 40+ TD QB's on the season.

     

    True about Stafford.  I was responding to the poster's Josh vs Maye matchup for MVP.

  4. 10 hours ago, HardyBoy said:

     

    Most of the Patriots superbowl teams, they just didn't have the amount of injuries on defense, except that time they had Troy Brown playing defense

     

    The first run SB teams had Seymour, McGinnest, Bruschi, Samuels, Ty Law, Vrabel.  That's a pretty stacked Defense--not built for "depth". 

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  5. 13 hours ago, ganesh said:

    Key is their status when Josh played against them 

     

    The Bills played Lamar in week 1 and if not for Josh’s heroics Lamar would have been the MVP of the game 

     

    when the Bills played Mahomes, the chiefs we’re riding on a hot streak from him and Josh silenced him
     

    Burrow was playing at a high level and took a 21-10 lead into the 4th quarter before Josh decided to wear his cape and out dueled him 

     

    the threeQBs may not be ranked in the top five today but when we played them they were one of the hottest QBs entering that game 

     

    "hot streak"?  they had 1 quality win over Detroit and were off to their worst start since 2021.  Burrow had played in 3 games, finished 2 of them and averaged 150 YPG and completed 55% of his passes, 4 TDs. That's not "a high level".  

     

    Ok, sure Lamar was a top 4 QB this year in week 1.  Then he wasn't again.  Burrow played 1 game "at a high level" then literally threw the win away twice, on successive plays.

     

    The topic is "current" top 4 QBs.  None of those 3 are currently.  

     

    11 hours ago, Neo said:

     

    No, he said top four.   We’ll pick teams tomorrow.  I’ll take his four.   You take your four.  Well ask any GM in football if they want Allen, Mahomes, Jackson and Burrow or any four you name.   You’re pointing to three, four, or six week stretches where this guy struggled or that guy struggled.  That’s an obvious truism that doesn’t address, let alone negate, his point.

     

    ”Tom Brady is the greatest.   Wait, Eli Manning beat him in a Super Bowl.”

     

    Read the title of the thread....

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  6. 1 hour ago, Neo said:

    Jackson was not terrible when Allen beat him.

     

    Mahomes was not terrible when Allen beat him.

     

    Burrow was playing when Allen beat him.

    I”d listen to Stafford.   But, I’m a biased “pro Stafford” guy.

     

     

     

    This, by the way, is classic internet self gratification.   Someone says “the following took place” with historical significance.    Others line up and say “well, yes, but he farted in high school and one of his shirt buttons was untucked.”

     

    Allen beat Jackson, Mahomes and Burrow.   I don’t care if Burrow’s babysitter wouldn’t let him watch South Park when he was eleven years old.

     

    Point out your trees.   I’ll enjoy the forest.

     

    The OP said currenly, meanin his season.  Non of these guys are top 4.

     

    Mahomes was 1-3 and had 5 TDs and 5 INTs when  he rolled into that Bills game.  Solid decline.                                                           

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  7. 26 minutes ago, agilen said:

    I think Maye and Allen are going to cancel each other out.  Allen will outplay Maye this weekend and we'll win comfortably, but the Pats will win the division due to the tiebreakers so heavily favoring them (they'll only lose one more game).  But the voters will see Allen going 6-0 down the stretch while Maye goes 3-2, so they won't give it to Maye, but Allen won't get it because he doesn't win his division.

     

    Its Stafford's award this year; he'd have to lay an egg against both Detroit and Seattle to lose it.

     

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    26 minutes ago, agilen said:

    I think Maye and Allen are going to cancel each other out.  Allen will outplay Maye this weekend and we'll win comfortably, but the Pats will win the division due to the tiebreakers so heavily favoring them (they'll only lose one more game).  But the voters will see Allen going 6-0 down the stretch while Maye goes 3-2, so they won't give it to Maye, but Allen won't get it because he doesn't win his division.

     

    Its Stafford's award this year; he'd have to lay an egg against both Detroit and Seattle to lose it.

     

     

    if Maye takes them from worst to first, he's a lock. 

  8. It's a "crucial game" because their franchise QB has fallen off a cliff.  He's won 5 games behind Center and the past 2 were horrible.  Can't fault Andrews for trying to catch that duck from Lamar, thinking it was for him.  Jackson had AMPLE time to single out Hopkins when he was over near the corner of the EZ.

     

    NFL is wild this season, with total dogs in awful conferences (AFCN, NFCE and NFCS) "still in the hunt" and only 4 teams with double digit wins after 14 weeks.

  9. One was a fumble out of bounds so by definition it is insignificant as no opponent can recover it (play was negated by penalty anyway).  The other one was a good play by the Defender with a cold snowy wet football.  

     

    Nothing to worry about.

     

    But if you must fret over something, worry about a RB who falls down untouched with a clear path to the EZ (and who subsequently sells a play action handoff fake so poorly tht Josh gets lit up).

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  10. I never saw this as a game the Bills would have lost.  Game in the snow with the best running team vs the worst run (and pass) Defense.  This team gave up 87b combined to the Vikings and the Jets (lsoing to both).

     

    Even if you assume the QBs are equivalent (they aren;t but...) the Bills Defense should have been the difference and they were (well, for 2 plays they were).

     

     

  11. 9 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

    The roster is not a disaster. It is deep. Brandon Beane prioritises depth in his roster builds. Always has. I would argue the Bills at one point in camp this past year had around 65 guys who could probably be serviceable NFL football players without being liabilities on the field if called upon to play in spot duty. That allows the coaches to piece together a competitive team even when, for example, you are down both starting tackles or when, for example, you have multiple safeties done for the year or when, for example, your defensive tackle room is decimated by November. 

     

    If anyone has ever tried to criticise Brandon Beane for depth they were barking up the wrong tree. He consistently succeeds if that is your metric. The issue is his depth approach feels like, at times, it has come at the expense of genuine game changers. Particularly up front on defense and at wide receiver.  And when you add that to the fact he has struggled to draft true game changers it leaves the very top of the roster a little thin. 

     

    That is a different roster build than Baltimore or Kansas City. They are more top heavy builds and they are not able to roll with the punches from injuries as well as Buffalo is. I'll exclude Cincy from this conversation because (while their roster has issues, especially on defense) when you lose your Quarterback for 9 games no amount of depth is saving you. 

     

     

    Good point about depth v. game changers.  But what SB team has been built with mangaing injuries yet to happen in mind? Build for depth and a team helmed by a once in a franchise lifetime QB gets pushed around by the likes of Miami and Atlanta.

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  12. 24 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:


    I just don’t understand what you’re watching if you think this.  He is elite.

     

     i said this season,  Coming into tonight's game, he had finished 3 hamed this year and completed 55% of his passes.  Then he singlehandedly lost the game with the worst pick 6 pass you may see all year ond followed that up with another weak arm pass that got tipped and picked.  

     

    8 minutes ago, Cray51 said:

    I’ve said it before.  He has been given a crown for his defense led Super Bowl appearances and his injuries due to his o line.

     

    he has two of the best 20 wide receivers in the nfl.  A ton of his yards and tds are when he is down and needs to air it out to come back.

     

    he has a very accurate arm and looks calm and measured.  With that said, he isn’t durable, lacks pocket awareness, and doesn’t have that killer gene Mahomes does.

     

    great QB, but overrated 

     

    Caleb Williams has more  career 4th Q comeback wins than Burrow.

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