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ATTENTION EVERYONE......gather around...i have some very bad news....
.....weather reports are bleak, We'll have to cancel January 15th.
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Schottenheimer says he wants to be a head coach, but not yet
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/...ch-but-not-yet/
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BIG NAME COACH = BIG INCREASE
UP & COMING COACH = SMALL INCREASE
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nooooooooooo,,,,,,it's to early....you peaked !!
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Keep this date in your calendars. This was heard on a radio station and as part of a certain Thurman Thomas weekly show, that the Buffalo Bills have big time news on 1/15/2010 that will impress the fans and be shocking.
Thurman would not go into the news on the radio, but I am guessing that perhaps this is tied to Coach Sal's report of Cowher being interested in the Bills. Maybe this is the date that they are targeting as the signing and turning around of the Buffalo Bills Franchise or the Ownership status and a heir taking over and keeping the team in buffalo.
merry Jan 15th eve.......it's so exciting.....i wonder what we will all get.....
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We need Joe Logan, we need him to create another report. The threads have been lacking lately without him.
Hey Jumping Joe Logan where did you go????
i emailed Joe Logan a link to the You-tube video that makes fun of him regarding cowher.......he emailed me back saying... "My wife was upset, but it was one of the funniest things I have ever seen.."
btw....he came out with a report late last night.....
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OFFENSE
Quarterback: Peyton Manning, Indianapolis.
Running Backs: Chris Johnson, Tennessee; Adrian Peterson, Minnesota.
Fullback: Leonard Weaver, Philadelphia.
Tight End: Dallas Clark, Indianapolis.
Wide Receivers: Andre Johnson, Houston; Wes Welker, New England.
Tackles: Ryan Clady, Denver; Joe Thomas, Cleveland.
Guards: Steve Hutchinson, Minnesota; Jahri Evans, New Orleans.
Center: Nick Mangold, New York Jets.
Placekicker: Nate Kaeding, San Diego.
Kick Returner: Joshua Cribbs, Cleveland.
DEFENSE
Ends: Jared Allen, Minnesota; Dwight Freeney, Indianapolis.
Tackles: Jay Ratliff, Dallas; Kevin Williams, Minnesota.
Outside Linebackers: Elvis Dumervil, Denver; DeMarcus Ware, Dallas.
Inside Linebacker: Patrick Willis, San Francisco; Ray Lewis, Baltimore.
Cornerbacks: Charles Woodson, Green Bay; Darrelle Revis, New York Jets.
Safeties: Darren Sharper, New Orleans; Adrian Wilson, Arizona.
Punter: Shane Lechler, Oakland.
SECOND TEAM
OFFENSE
Quarterback: Drew Brees, New Orleans.
Running Backs: Ray Rice, Baltimore; Steven Jackson, St. Louis.
Fullback: Le'Ron McClain, Baltimore.
Tight End: Antonio Gates, San Diego.
Wide Receivers: Reggie Wayne, Indianapolis; Larry Fitzgerald, Arizona.
Tackles: Michael Roos, Tennessee; Jake Long, Miami.
Guards: Logan Mankins, New England; Kris Dielman, San Diego.
Center: Andre Gurode, Dallas.
Placekicker: David Akers, Philadelphia.
Kick Returner: DeSean Jackson, Philadelphia.
DEFENSE
Ends: Trent Cole, Philadelphia; Julius Peppers, Carolina.
Tackles: Darnell Dockett, Arizona; Haloti Ngata, Baltimore.
Outside Linebackers: Brian Cushing, Houston; LaMarr Woodley, Pittsburgh.
Inside Linebackers: David Harris, New York Jets; Jon Beason, Carolina.
Cornerbacks: Nnamdi Asomugha, Oakland; Asante Samuel, Philadelphia, and Leon Hall, Cincinnati (tie).
Safeties: Brian Dawkins, Denver; Ed Reed, Baltimore, and Nick Collins, Green Bay (tie).
Punter: Andy Lee, San Francisco, and Donnie Jones, St. Louis (tie).
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/...9-all-pro-team/
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why don't we flood OBD with emails. anyone know brandon's email?
to start, go to this link:
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You are probably correct about the Kelly connection. If so, Kelly needs to back away and let Buddy Nix complete the process. Buddy Nix has played a supporting role most of his career. Any lack of experience can only mean lack of experience in being THE guy. Nix is probably not a "natural leader" type of person and so he's never been promoted to the top spot before. He's the guy that REALLY knows what to do and makes OTHER people above him look good while not getting the credit. Some people go through their entire careers like this -- the know what they are doing, but perhaps don't outwardly appear to be confident in themselves (or are just very content to take a back seat role) and so they never reach the top spot. But that doesn't mean guys like this can't succeed being the top guy. Let Nix grow into this new role a bit and he'll be just fine.
i love the buddy nix pick......i think his expertise in talent evaluating will be the key to our success. having said that, coaching is the next most important piece. while cowher is not my first choice (i want marty) he is a great choice. i think cowher is hung up on power (final say on draft), i want nix to have that.
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Joe Logan wants handwritten letters but an email campaign directed at OBD would be just as effective and quicker.
We should deluge OBD with emails about the Cowher offer/hire.
I can't find an email address on their website. Does anyone know Brandon's email?
to start, go to this link:
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"All in for the Chin." Has there EVER been a better slogan...for anything?!?
nice
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http://www.eastaurora.org/article.aspx?artno=1237
A couple of brief excerpts from above link (bold face added):
"The message to me was that R&R are getting internal pressure to make Cowher the offer he can't refuse."
"Privately they are also concerned that Brandon and new GM Buddy Nix may not have the experience needed to be able to recognize the potential of a coordinator or college coach with no head coaching experience."
This makes no sense. Internal pressure? From WHO? Russ & Buddy ARE the main internal guys. There is no one else INTERNAL who really matters regarding this decision. And Buddy Nix's 50+ years of being in-and-around football suddenly does not matter? You maybe could make that argument about Russ, but no way you can make that argument about Buddy. He may be new to the HC interviewing process (at the NFL level), but I totally trust Buddy. He's got the experience necessary to make a good HC decision and he does NOT need any "internal pressure" to make one. If he is getting pressure, then he just needs to stay the course, conduct all the interviews and get the right guy.
We need to get off this Cowher or nothing mentality. He's ONE guy. He's had some success and he'd be a great candidate, but he is NOT the ONLY guy. I want to see the Bills conduct an extensive search and interview as many qualified candidates as possible like Russ Grimm, for example, and others. Buddy is the guy. Let the man do his job for cryin' out loud. He doesn't need pressure within the organization to make any decisions.
i have said it before and i'll say it again...i think JIM KELLY is joe logans source.......first, kelly is on the inside......he and thurman are involved in marketing...they hear things.......i think KELLY is so frustrated with the bills lack of direction.....that he is doing everything in his power to get this turned around. kelly loves cowher and wants him badly. i think the "they" is kelly and thomas.
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ALL YOU COWHER SUPPORTERS...it ain't over til it's over......
BILLIEVER'S - TIME TO TAKE IT UP A NOTCH
By JOE LOGAN (1/13/2010 11:27:46 PM)
Let the nay-sayers and haters wallow in the mud with their Long Island pal Schefter and let the Billiever's rock and roll. Time to take it up a notch.
I spoke tonight with my source (who by the way owes me a genny cream when this is over) and apparently there is some heated discussions going on at one bills drive. The message to me was that R&R are getting internal pressure to make Cowher the offer he can't refuse. Final decision on player moves and a commitment to pay for players.
The concern within is that Ralph and Russ are not pursuing Cowher with the amount of urgency that the situation deserves. Privately they are also concerned that Brandon and new GM Buddy Nix may not have the experience needed to be able to recognize the potential of a coordinator or college coach with no head coaching experience. Hence the reason they are suggesting a more aggressive pitch for Cowher who has the proven track record.
None of that is good news, however I was also told that Buffalo Fan Factor is having an effect on the happenings on both sides of the table and the suggestion to me was to see if we could really take it up a notch, and fast!
What have we got to lose folks? Let's do our part. Let's go all in for the Chin.
Here is the plan. I'm asking that everyone interested in doing their part to try to land Cowher write two HANDWRITTEN letters. One to Ralph Wilson and one to Bill Cowher. Tell Ralph why it is important to you that we get Coach Cowher. Draft a second letter to Cowher telling him why you think he should come to Buffalo. Put them both in a single envelope addressed to EastAurora.Org PO Box 125 East Aurora, New York 14052. I know I can get the message directly to Ralph and I will do everything in my power to deliver them to Coach Cowher, even if I have to drive down to Raleigh to do it.
Please try to get all of your letters out by this weekend.
I don't know what Schefter knows and why he says what he says about Cowher. But I believe if we can get hundreds or maybe thousands of handwritten letters hand delivered to him it might just be enough to sway him and tip the scales in our favors.
I'm all in on this until I hear Coach C say he is out. If that happens, we move on. Better to do what we can to help the cause than to just sit back and expect the worst and then complain after the fact. Isn't it?
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ALL YOU COWHER SUPPORTERS...it ain't over til it's over......
BILLIEVER'S - TIME TO TAKE IT UP A NOTCH
By JOE LOGAN (1/13/2010 11:27:46 PM)
Let the nay-sayers and haters wallow in the mud with their Long Island pal Schefter and let the Billiever's rock and roll. Time to take it up a notch.
I spoke tonight with my source (who by the way owes me a genny cream when this is over) and apparently there is some heated discussions going on at one bills drive. The message to me was that R&R are getting internal pressure to make Cowher the offer he can't refuse. Final decision on player moves and a commitment to pay for players.
The concern within is that Ralph and Russ are not pursuing Cowher with the amount of urgency that the situation deserves. Privately they are also concerned that Brandon and new GM Buddy Nix may not have the experience needed to be able to recognize the potential of a coordinator or college coach with no head coaching experience. Hence the reason they are suggesting a more aggressive pitch for Cowher who has the proven track record.
None of that is good news, however I was also told that Buffalo Fan Factor is having an effect on the happenings on both sides of the table and the suggestion to me was to see if we could really take it up a notch, and fast!
What have we got to lose folks? Let's do our part. Let's go all in for the Chin.
Here is the plan. I'm asking that everyone interested in doing their part to try to land Cowher write two HANDWRITTEN letters. One to Ralph Wilson and one to Bill Cowher. Tell Ralph why it is important to you that we get Coach Cowher. Draft a second letter to Cowher telling him why you think he should come to Buffalo. Put them both in a single envelope addressed to EastAurora.Org PO Box 125 East Aurora, New York 14052. I know I can get the message directly to Ralph and I will do everything in my power to deliver them to Coach Cowher, even if I have to drive down to Raleigh to do it.
Please try to get all of your letters out by this weekend.
I don't know what Schefter knows and why he says what he says about Cowher. But I believe if we can get hundreds or maybe thousands of handwritten letters hand delivered to him it might just be enough to sway him and tip the scales in our favors.
I'm all in on this until I hear Coach C say he is out. If that happens, we move on. Better to do what we can to help the cause than to just sit back and expect the worst and then complain after the fact. Isn't it?
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ALL YOU COWHER SUPPORTERS...it ain't over til it's over......
BILLIEVER'S - TIME TO TAKE IT UP A NOTCH
By JOE LOGAN (1/13/2010 11:27:46 PM)
Let the nay-sayers and haters wallow in the mud with their Long Island pal Schefter and let the Billiever's rock and roll. Time to take it up a notch.
I spoke tonight with my source (who by the way owes me a genny cream when this is over) and apparently there is some heated discussions going on at one bills drive. The message to me was that R&R are getting internal pressure to make Cowher the offer he can't refuse. Final decision on player moves and a commitment to pay for players.
The concern within is that Ralph and Russ are not pursuing Cowher with the amount of urgency that the situation deserves. Privately they are also concerned that Brandon and new GM Buddy Nix may not have the experience needed to be able to recognize the potential of a coordinator or college coach with no head coaching experience. Hence the reason they are suggesting a more aggressive pitch for Cowher who has the proven track record.
None of that is good news, however I was also told that Buffalo Fan Factor is having an effect on the happenings on both sides of the table and the suggestion to me was to see if we could really take it up a notch, and fast!
What have we got to lose folks? Let's do our part. Let's go all in for the Chin.
Here is the plan. I'm asking that everyone interested in doing their part to try to land Cowher write two HANDWRITTEN letters. One to Ralph Wilson and one to Bill Cowher. Tell Ralph why it is important to you that we get Coach Cowher. Draft a second letter to Cowher telling him why you think he should come to Buffalo. Put them both in a single envelope addressed to EastAurora.Org PO Box 125 East Aurora, New York 14052. I know I can get the message directly to Ralph and I will do everything in my power to deliver them to Coach Cowher, even if I have to drive down to Raleigh to do it.
Please try to get all of your letters out by this weekend.
I don't know what Schefter knows and why he says what he says about Cowher. But I believe if we can get hundreds or maybe thousands of handwritten letters hand delivered to him it might just be enough to sway him and tip the scales in our favors.
I'm all in on this until I hear Coach C say he is out. If that happens, we move on. Better to do what we can to help the cause than to just sit back and expect the worst and then complain after the fact. Isn't it?
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ALL YOU COWHER SUPPORTERS...it ain't over til it's over......
BILLIEVER'S - TIME TO TAKE IT UP A NOTCH
By JOE LOGAN (1/13/2010 11:27:46 PM)
Let the nay-sayers and haters wallow in the mud with their Long Island pal Schefter and let the Billiever's rock and roll. Time to take it up a notch.
I spoke tonight with my source (who by the way owes me a genny cream when this is over) and apparently there is some heated discussions going on at one bills drive. The message to me was that R&R are getting internal pressure to make Cowher the offer he can't refuse. Final decision on player moves and a commitment to pay for players.
The concern within is that Ralph and Russ are not pursuing Cowher with the amount of urgency that the situation deserves. Privately they are also concerned that Brandon and new GM Buddy Nix may not have the experience needed to be able to recognize the potential of a coordinator or college coach with no head coaching experience. Hence the reason they are suggesting a more aggressive pitch for Cowher who has the proven track record.
None of that is good news, however I was also told that Buffalo Fan Factor is having an effect on the happenings on both sides of the table and the suggestion to me was to see if we could really take it up a notch, and fast!
What have we got to lose folks? Let's do our part. Let's go all in for the Chin.
Here is the plan. I'm asking that everyone interested in doing their part to try to land Cowher write two HANDWRITTEN letters. One to Ralph Wilson and one to Bill Cowher. Tell Ralph why it is important to you that we get Coach Cowher. Draft a second letter to Cowher telling him why you think he should come to Buffalo. Put them both in a single envelope addressed to EastAurora.Org PO Box 125 East Aurora, New York 14052. I know I can get the message directly to Ralph and I will do everything in my power to deliver them to Coach Cowher, even if I have to drive down to Raleigh to do it.
Please try to get all of your letters out by this weekend.
I don't know what Schefter knows and why he says what he says about Cowher. But I believe if we can get hundreds or maybe thousands of handwritten letters hand delivered to him it might just be enough to sway him and tip the scales in our favors.
I'm all in on this until I hear Coach C say he is out. If that happens, we move on. Better to do what we can to help the cause than to just sit back and expect the worst and then complain after the fact. Isn't it?
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So, which came first... the chicken or the egg?
the guy with FINAL SAY over the draft !!
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ALL YOU COWHER SUPPORTERS...it ain't over til it's over......
BILLIEVER'S - TIME TO TAKE IT UP A NOTCH
By JOE LOGAN (1/13/2010 11:27:46 PM)
Let the nay-sayers and haters wallow in the mud with their Long Island pal Schefter and let the Billiever's rock and roll. Time to take it up a notch.
I spoke tonight with my source (who by the way owes me a genny cream when this is over) and apparently there is some heated discussions going on at one bills drive. The message to me was that R&R are getting internal pressure to make Cowher the offer he can't refuse. Final decision on player moves and a commitment to pay for players.
The concern within is that Ralph and Russ are not pursuing Cowher with the amount of urgency that the situation deserves. Privately they are also concerned that Brandon and new GM Buddy Nix may not have the experience needed to be able to recognize the potential of a coordinator or college coach with no head coaching experience. Hence the reason they are suggesting a more aggressive pitch for Cowher who has the proven track record.
None of that is good news, however I was also told that Buffalo Fan Factor is having an effect on the happenings on both sides of the table and the suggestion to me was to see if we could really take it up a notch, and fast!
What have we got to lose folks? Let's do our part. Let's go all in for the Chin.
Here is the plan. I'm asking that everyone interested in doing their part to try to land Cowher write two HANDWRITTEN letters. One to Ralph Wilson and one to Bill Cowher. Tell Ralph why it is important to you that we get Coach Cowher. Draft a second letter to Cowher telling him why you think he should come to Buffalo. Put them both in a single envelope addressed to EastAurora.Org PO Box 125 East Aurora, New York 14052. I know I can get the message directly to Ralph and I will do everything in my power to deliver them to Coach Cowher, even if I have to drive down to Raleigh to do it.
Please try to get all of your letters out by this weekend.
I don't know what Schefter knows and why he says what he says about Cowher. But I believe if we can get hundreds or maybe thousands of handwritten letters hand delivered to him it might just be enough to sway him and tip the scales in our favors.
I'm all in on this until I hear Coach C say he is out. If that happens, we move on. Better to do what we can to help the cause than to just sit back and expect the worst and then complain after the fact. Isn't it?
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a coach is very important....BUT...
IT'S ALL ABOUT TALENT !!....here are PRO BOWL players by TEAM.
1. St. Louis (1-15) - 1
2. Detroit (2-14) - 0
3. Tampa Bay (3-13) - 0
4. Washington (4-12) - 1
5. Kansas City (4-12) - 0
6. Seattle (5-11) - 0
7. Cleveland (5-11) - 2
8. Oakland (5-11) - 2
9. Buffalo (6-10) - 1
10/11. Chicago (7-9) - 1
10/11. Jacksonville (7-9) - 1
12. Miami (7-9) - 1
13. San Francisco (8-8) - 3
14. Denver (8-8) - 5
15. New York Giants (8-8) - 1
16/17. Carolina (8-8) - 2
16/17. Tennessee (8-8) - 1
18. Pittsburgh (9-7) - 2
19/20. Atlanta (9-7) - 4
19/20. Houston (9-7) - 4
21. Cincinnati (10-6) - 0
22. New England (10-6) - 5
23. Green Bay (11-5) - 4
24. Philadelphia (11-5) - 6
25. Baltimore (9-7) - 5
26. New York Jets (9-7) - 4
27. Arizona (10-6) - 4
28. Dallas (11-5) - 6
29. Minnesota (12-4) - 8
30. New Orleans (13-3) - 5
31. San Diego (13-3) - 5
32. Indianapolis (14-2) - 6
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IT'S ALL ABOUT TALENT !!....here are PRO BOWL players by TEAM.
1. St. Louis (1-15) - 1
2. Detroit (2-14) - 0
3. Tampa Bay (3-13) - 0
4. Washington (4-12) - 1
5. Kansas City (4-12) - 0
6. Seattle (5-11) - 0
7. Cleveland (5-11) - 2
8. Oakland (5-11) - 2
9. Buffalo (6-10) - 1
10/11. Chicago (7-9) - 1
10/11. Jacksonville (7-9) - 1
12. Miami (7-9) - 1
13. San Francisco (8-8) - 3
14. Denver (8-8) - 5
15. New York Giants (8-8) - 1
16/17. Carolina (8-8) - 2
16/17. Tennessee (8-8) - 1
18. Pittsburgh (9-7) - 2
19/20. Atlanta (9-7) - 4
19/20. Houston (9-7) - 4
21. Cincinnati (10-6) - 0
22. New England (10-6) - 5
23. Green Bay (11-5) - 4
24. Philadelphia (11-5) - 6
25. Baltimore (9-7) - 5
26. New York Jets (9-7) - 4
27. Arizona (10-6) - 4
28. Dallas (11-5) - 6
29. Minnesota (12-4) - 8
30. New Orleans (13-3) - 5
31. San Diego (13-3) - 5
32. Indianapolis (14-2) - 6
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Our talent has been the problem people, much more then Ralph, cash to cap, coaching, or any other logic being thrown around. Our talent the last 15 years has been abysmal. It’s been abysmal because our drafting has been abysmal. For the first time in that entire stretch Ralph actually has a scout responsible for player decisions. We actually have a guy whose best trademark isn’t selling tickets, but locating talented players.
If we draft well we will win. If we win the face of our organization will change.
IT'S ALL ABOUT TALENT !!....here are PRO BOWL players by TEAM.
1. St. Louis (1-15) - 1
2. Detroit (2-14) - 0
3. Tampa Bay (3-13) - 0
4. Washington (4-12) - 1
5. Kansas City (4-12) - 0
6. Seattle (5-11) - 0
7. Cleveland (5-11) - 2
8. Oakland (5-11) - 2
9. Buffalo (6-10) - 1
10/11. Chicago (7-9) - 1
10/11. Jacksonville (7-9) - 1
12. Miami (7-9) - 1
13. San Francisco (8-8) - 3
14. Denver (8-8) - 5
15. New York Giants (8-8) - 1
16/17. Carolina (8-8) - 2
16/17. Tennessee (8-8) - 1
18. Pittsburgh (9-7) - 2
19/20. Atlanta (9-7) - 4
19/20. Houston (9-7) - 4
21. Cincinnati (10-6) - 0
22. New England (10-6) - 5
23. Green Bay (11-5) - 4
24. Philadelphia (11-5) - 6
25. Baltimore (9-7) - 5
26. New York Jets (9-7) - 4
27. Arizona (10-6) - 4
28. Dallas (11-5) - 6
29. Minnesota (12-4) - 8
30. New Orleans (13-3) - 5
31. San Diego (13-3) - 5
32. Indianapolis (14-2) - 6
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I really am not usually this pessimistic, but this is seriously bad.
NOBODY wants this job!
I understand the Bills taking their time - to an extent, but when half of the candidates that you want to
talk to turn down the opportunity to even interview for what would be a promotion and big pay increase,
you have to figure that SOMETHING is very BROKEN.
At this point, whomever they hire will have no credibility from day 1 since he will obviously be a desperation
hire. How will this desperation hire even put together a staff of assistants. Who will want to come work for
the 15th or 16th choice of an organization?
QUESTION : "Will ANYONE take the Bills' HC job?"
ANSWER : yes ! , absolutely guaranteed......
JANUARY 15, 2010!!!
in The Stadium Wall Archives
Posted
Jim Kelly Predicts:
http://www.buffalobills.com/news/article-3...90-536c0f0eee70