Steve In Atlanta 2008

Ok... Lets split hairs... Trent throws 55 mph Your want is someone who can throw 60 a 30 yard pass at 55 mph from release to completion would take 1.115 seconds a 30 yard pass at 60 mph from release to completion would take 1.0227 seconds Fact is TE is ok in my mind...

Steve in Atlanta (me) posted the ball speed to put this to bed in showing his arm is average compared to other qbs. you ASSUMED that I was trying to prove that he has a cannon arm and this is simply not true. He is average and if he could learn to be effective against a 3-4 "D" id be really happy. As has been already noted, Big Ben has a similar ball speed AND Mr JP is 2 MPH faster. This whole link started with people LUSTING after Cutler and claiming his arm was soo much better. We PROVED that it was 5 MPH faster which to me isnt worth crap in comparison to how much of a pu$$y that guy is. So yes, this should be put to bed now. end of conversation. TE is simply average. O.. one last thing. Wet noodle arm Pennington has carved us up in the past. Not by arm but by timing and being smart with the football...

Dean is an Elf..

I think he was injured worse that the let on...

Not True.. its about leverage an mechanics... havent you read previous posts?

Heres 2007... BALL SPEED MPH Ingle Martin 61 Jay Cutler 60 Brodie Croyle 58 Tavaris Jackson 57 Bruce Eugene 55 Cutler 60 MPH

I couldnt find others stats however id like to see them also. I was basing this post on all those worried about TE getting the ball to TO and Evans.. Obviously Trent is on the low end but I think its just fine..

Trent Edwards arm strength has come into question over and over on this board so in an effort to put this to bed i'd like to show the facts... Top 5 Results: Ball Speed (Group 1) 1. Troy Smith Ohio St. 58.5 2. Jeff Rowe Nevada 57 3. Drew Stanton Michigan St. 55.7 4. Jared Zabransky Boise St. 55.2 5. Paul Thompson Oklahoma 54.8 Top 5 Results: Ball Speed (Group 2) 1. Toby Korrodi Central Missouri St. 63 2. John Beck Brigham Young 61.1 3. Kevin Kolb Houston 55.3 4. Trent Edwards Stanford 55.2 5. James Pinkey East Carolina 53.9

Lemme see... The bills wont be at the Ralph until August which is 5 months from now, the jersey so this is a fake...

HAHA... ok I admit pretty funny lol

Another joke... the pier was fun but its gone too.. and oo BTW.. the girls you brought home were BUFFALO girls with the big noses, butts and guts... And they tawk an that uooh my gawd voice that makes me want to puke..

What a joke... South Beach in the ofseason BLOWS AWAY buffalo in the peak season... get a grip..

Dont you understand? Dean just likes to hear himself talk... Dean is overated... He sits and watches this board to just make negetive comments about peoples ideas but NEVER has anything of value to say...

OOPS i forgot to add... We need to build another hotel just to house all the new media that will be covering the games.. "TO HOTEL"

A couple of thoughts... We LOVE the showboating if it is OUR player... TO single handedly put ALLOT of focus on the Bills and BUFFALO.... and its not even camp time yet... So in other words he doesnt need a huge market... he BRINGS the market to buffalo... TO DOES make this 'O' better... even if he takes 1 person in coverage off of Evans... San Fran is just pissed they overpaid for Clements..

Could be... Id say yes...

He WAS last year... 69 catches for your #1 WR? Put it this way, Dallas # 1 RB had 885 yds rushing their #1 WR had 1000 yards on 69 Catches Youre right...

When your TE has 81 catches for 952 yds and 11.8 yds a catch and your #1 WR has 69 catches your looking at the TE too much.. AND include the fact that your RB has just 17 fewer catches than your WR.. They had problems...

If part of your arguement is about if he can buy the Bills the answer is NOPE!

I think the coke and the Vodka Tonics cost him a mint too..

Lets put it this way... TO wants to WIN and sees himself as the best player on the team... ANYONE who doesnt want the ball isnt passionate about his abilities or winning. I like TO and i think the fans will LOVE him! He will LOVE the people of Buffalo. Its a GREAT marriage!

Just my feeling... -TO just wants to win.. -TO DEMANDS accounibility.. -TO IS a great teamate.. -TO says is as he SEES it... Has he been wrong? The latest was Romo locking in on Whitten.. Was he wrong? -TO will demand better play from his team mates. -TO is NEVER in trouble with the law.. could help Lynch grow up.. -TO is a LEADER and the Bills NEED one... This will work and the Bills WILL be better... 9-7

HAHA! Yea! Y'all can model ZUBAS or for a local pizza place..

Well why dont you repost it and let me have a shot? Thanks for the newbe comment.. Kinda proud of the fact that i dont spend my life on 2BD..

Why dont you post a pic of yourself so we can mock you out?