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8 hours ago, Big Turk said:
Never happening. You might get 3 votes from owners if you are lucky.
They could simply have the team with the better record hosting the game and leave the divisions the way they are.
That would still leave open the very likely possibility that a team with a better record misses the playoffs. As long as the division winner automatically makes the playoffs, that possibility will always remain.
In 2022 - the 8-9 Bucs made the playoffs and hosted a playoff game. The 9-8 Lions didn’t make the playoffs.
In 2020 - the 7-9 Football Team made the playoffs and hosted a home game. The 8-8 Cardinals missed the playoffs.
In 2019 - the 11-5 Seahawks missed the playoffs yet the 10-6 Vikings made it and the 9-7 Eagles hosted a playoff game! This is a perfect example of why divisions need to go.
In 2015 - the 10-6 Jets missed the playoffs. The 9-7 Texans hosted a playoff game.
In 2014 - the 7-8-1 Panthers hosted a playoff game, the 8-8 Niners and 10-6 Eagles missed the playoffs lol. Another perfect example.
I can continue. It doesn’t happen every single season, but it happens a lot. And it will continue happening as long as we keep this division format.
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Just now, JayBaller10 said:
They’d both be no names if Stroud had busted. Luckily for them he’s having an unprecedented rookie season.
I mean that’s always the case to a certain extent. If that was completely true though, Mahomes and Allen would be making Tank Dells and Nico Collins of all their receivers. I’m still waiting for Shakir to turn into Dell.
Give more credit where credit is due. Prior to getting injured, Dell was a monster.
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37 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:
The most profitable rivalries for the league are the big games between great teams, like Bills vs Chiefs or Pats vs Colts back in the day, or 49ers vs Cowboys before that. No one cares or watches the likes of Pats vs Jets or Panthers vs Falcons...
Scheduling big games between great teams is not hard now, but with only conferences it would be even easier and more often, as well as ensuring the teams are ceded correctly per their record.
My thoughts exactly buddy.
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Posters on here saying Houston WR are horrific is cringeworthy. Tank Dell and Nico Collins are possibly the best WR combo in the league. Top 3 for sure.
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13 minutes ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said:
I love it when someone starts an argument here and the very first sentence is just factually inaccurate.
That was my fault. My 4yr old is a terror tonight and it’s hard to put a coherent thought on paper.
37 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:As if there won't still be rivalries.... In fact, some of, if not the best rivalries have been outside divisions between great teams who constantly competed in prime time games or playoffs.
Four-team divisions are dumb. If not just conferences, maybe just 2 divisions per conference.
The NFL is too stuck in its traditions sometimes.
I agree with this. Look at Chiefs/Bills/Bengals last few years. And of course the rivalries will keep changing over time a bit. I see nothing wrong with that. Also, we would still play the pats/fins/jets every year.
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5 minutes ago, Westside Madness said:
Since you opted to 'clarify' and not 'edit your OP', everyone who reads is is going to immediately have a response similar to many that it is a blant false statement. If you want real discourse on the validity of divisions, you may want to actually go back and edit the OP.
Edited. Thanks.
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10 minutes ago, mannc said:
The Texan’s defense is better than I thought…
I mean Minshew is a great story but the Texans defense is not stout.
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3 minutes ago, QLBillsFan said:
Texans are a tough draw if Bills beat Miami.
Imagine if they still had Tank Dell??? You could make argument they are most dangerous team if they still had him.
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Man CJ Stroud is fun to watch. Another great QB in the AFC.🥴
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41 minutes ago, Special K said:
When the Bills went to four straight Super Bowls, they were in the worst division in football at the time.....they had a free 8 wins over the Colts, Pats, Jets, and Fins...I bet you weren’t complaining about weak divisions then.
I was 5 so yeh I wasn’t complaining. This isn’t meant to complain about the Bills - it’s a topic about the NFL in general.
56 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said:Yea this is a if we lose tomorrow type post. Don’t lose to Zach Wilson, MAC Jones, or have 12 on the field and we wouldn’t have to play this out
This is 100% a “it’s week 18 and the playoffs start next week” post. How many times do I have to say this is NOT about the Bills specifically.
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Just now, Billl said:
If a team can’t win a 4 team division, then why do they deserve any kind of preferential treatment?
I’m not advocating for preferential treatment. Eliminating divisions would actually do the opposite - it would automatically create equity across the entire conference bc all teams would play the same schedule for 15/17 games.
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11/17 games are played against teams outside the division. So continuing to reward teams who play in crappy divisions and punishing those who play in competitive divisions seems inequitable at best. Giving so much weight to division winners when 11/17 games are played outside the division seems a bit counterintuitive.
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5 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:
In NFL history, 6 teams have made the playoffs with a losing record. And 2 or those were in the 82 strike season.
Let me clarify or edit my original post once and for all. Almost every year we see teams with a worse record, host a home playoff game, over a team with a better record only bc they won their division. At times, teams with worse records also make the playoffs over teams with better records.
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All fair points.
My main motivation would be to reduce the amount of schedule bias, and to ensure a team won’t make the playoffs over a team who has a better record. Let alone get a home game in the playoffs over a team who had a better record.
1 minute ago, KDIGGZ said:Bills couldn't beat Jets or Pats. Division rivals. If they lose tomorrow they deserve to be out
This is not meant to be a pro Bills thread. Just speaking in general terms about the NFL playoff picture
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3 minutes ago, artmalibu said:
Will a team with a loosing record make the playoffs this year?
I don’t think so; NFC South is worst division and winner will be 1 game over. Historically speaking, it has been an issue.
Chiefs have also gotten home field advantage for Mahomes’ entire tenure (minus this year), in part, due to the AFC W being a disaster.
1 minute ago, MJS said:Every year, haha? It almost never happens that a team with a losing record makes the playoffs. It is rare.
To clarify, I meant one of the two things I said happens.
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I did not put a single Bills player in my FanDuel league. Like clockwork, the couple of times I go with Allen at QB he has a stinker. It’s part of the reason I never pick him anymore. Dude balls out 15 games a year - other 2 games I have him.
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Almost every year we see teams make the playoffs over another team with a better record, due to winning their division. Or we see teams just have a cakewalk to the playoffs/home field advantage bc they play in a trash division and have automatic 6 wins (Chiefs past few years/Pats for more than a decade).
Remove the divisions. Keep AFC/NFC. Keep the same 18 week/17 game schedule every team plays every single team in their conference 1x and then do 2 games vs opposite conference every year to maintain some inter-conference rivalries alive.
Removing the divisions and going with 2 conference automatically eliminates teams with worse records making it in over teams with better records, and it also eliminates schedule bias by forcing all teams to have the same schedule (minus the 2 games vs opposite conference).
With 11/17 games being outside of your division, it doesn’t make sense to reward a team so much at playoff time for winning their division.
Thoughts?
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You’re telling me there isn’t a young 22/23yr old RB that Ravens couldn’t have signed? They had to get Gordon??? Lmao. This dude fumbles more than anyone.
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7 minutes ago, Gman10 said:
Im sure they'd rather us out of the playoffs
I’m sure that’s the case however my point stands. They are not going into this game thinking “we better lose so maybe Buffalo won’t make it”. Thats not a thought process in my opinion.
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1 minute ago, Aimee75 said:
Yeah I am already getting not great vibes from this one. Baltimore doesn't even look like they are trying, and quite frankly, I don't think they want to put The Bills in the playoffs. They are in a weird spot with that. If we don't make the playoffs, I am going to hope this somehow comes back to bite them.
Baltimore doesn’t care about us.
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1 minute ago, ImpactCorey said:
That is true, unless of course the Steelers win. It is the FIRST game that matters, but not the only.
Yeh you’re right. I looked at it wrong with Jags. If Jags lose that bumps them completely down and frees up extra wild card spot for winner/tie of Colts Texans game.
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2 hours ago, ImpactCorey said:
The Texans vs Colts game is a big one. Win and in. But there is something else on the line: if they tie the Bills are in! No other games end up mattering (for playoff birth alone).
Furthermore if that game ends in a tie and Steelers and Jaguars both end up winning, both the Texans and Colts are out.
If I was the one scripting the NFL, this is the curveball I'd throw out there.
Correct me if I’m wrong but the only other game that “REALLY” matters is the Steelers - bc if the Steelers lose, no matter what anyone else does, including the Bills losing, the Bills secure a wild card spot.
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33 minutes ago, FireChans said:
Because you don't watch enough NFL games.
Thank you.
54 minutes ago, MJS said:It's called the NFL. Most games are close.
Thank you.
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2nd most wins in the NFL since 2019. We are so gassed. 🙄
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Remove Divisions in NFL
in The Stadium Wall
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But that’s the thing, under the current system every team does not have to go through the same system to get to the Super Bowl. As an example, we could look at the division that draws the NFC South vs a team in a division that draws the AFC East. Imagine you are the Chargers and next year you drew all AFC East teams vs being the Texans who draw all NFC South teams. Who would you rather play an additional 4 games? It’s not the same system - it’s not even close. And that’s not even addressing the remaining fact that some teams play in crappy divisions vs teams that play in stacked divisions.
Playing under the same system, as you say, would eliminate the current divisional format and have 2 conferences where everyone plays each other 1x. No schedule bias, no luck of drawing a crappy division to play that season, and certainly no more 8-7-1 teams hosting a playoff game while a 10-6 team stays home.
This is not a novel idea. Because I didn’t post it years ago doesn’t remove merit from the idea now.