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  1. 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said:

    Thank you! Well said!

    it’s amazing to me how ‘informed’ so many people think they are but all they know is what they’re being told or what they read on the internet (cough). All you need to do is open your eyes and you’ll see the utter and complete media pivot since puppet Joe Biden took office and you’ll know what’s going on here. 

    I've always loved the comedy of George Carlin.  His humor combined with the ability to break down a topic and expose the essence of an argument was second to none.  Many of his conclusions and insights have stuck with me.  A specific thing he said (to paraphrase) which I find applicable today is "the last thing any government wants is a population of critical thinking citizens.  They want obedient workers that are just smart enough to get things done that won't ask too many questions".  This can also be applied to the MSM because for all intents the MSM is now a instrument of government.  That's kind of where we are now.  Critical thinking, logical deduction, skeptical approaches to understanding events, are unwelcome and discouraged.  Looking at most of the prevailing narratives of today anyone applying any or all of those concepts will likely generate a lot of tough questions that officials will prefer to avoid. 

     

    To understand how all this works we need to examine how people think.  I've concluded most people believe things that reinforce their pre-existing conclusions that come from sources they "trust".  No matter how ridiculous or absurd these narratives or conclusions might seem to people applying mental tools like critical thinking.  And why do they trust these sources?  Simply because the message they communicate is something they agree with already.  In other words its a closed loop feedback system.  Anything that conflicts with the message being sent through the system is rejected.  Until the trusted source in the system alters the message to include anything previously prohibited. 

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  2. 12 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

    There’s no border issue, period. I’ve been watching msm all week and it hasn’t come up, not once. The only thing leaked through was the suv accident that killed 13 of the 25 in the car...  

     

    if the non fox (which goes to the other extreme) media was however opposed to the current administration and held Republican allegiance the headline would have been:

     

    BIDEN IMMIGRATION POLICY TWICE AS  DEADLY AS ELECTION FRUAD PROTESTS.  
     

     

    Or

     

    Huge migrant influx poses major COVID super-spreader event risk (throw in mention of more infectious and deadlier variants for dramatic effect)

    Administration faces humanitarian crisis at the border without a plan

    Family separation policy draws fire from immigration experts and faces calls for Congressional hearings

    Administration's media black-out policy draws ire from legal experts and activists while raising questions about abuse  (What are they hiding?)

     

    I could go on.  More or less the problem is what we get from MSN is controlled by 7 people.  A concentration of power situation.  Billionaires that use their power to deliver "news" and opinions to support their own personal agenda.  Used to be you had professional news people running these organizations.  They cared about the truth, finding and reporting facts, posing tough questions to officials and others.  No more (other than going after Trump 24x7).  Today its con men and grifters running the show.     

     

     

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  3. 22 hours ago, \GoBillsInDallas/ said:

    Well Biden's kind of correct about that conclusion.  While certain segments of other minority groups are pissing and moaning about racism and white supremacists along with playing the victim all the time and making up a lot of excuses for their failures by always blaming somebody else and demanding more handouts and free money the American-Asian-Indian community has been quietly and effectively embracing the concepts of the American Dream by working long and hard while rejecting the victim approach.  In a short time they've achieved success and some degree of affluence that appears to be elusive to others. 

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  4. 43 minutes ago, Doc said:

     

    I was working with an older (70) GI doc yesterday and a GI tech, both of whom are great people but railed on Trump daily.  Long story short, I mentioned that I should get more home heating oil before prices rise.  They started talking about travel, oil companies wanting profits, etc. and I said "no, it's because of the administration."  They keep pooh-poohing it but I said "this was all predictable when he was elected."  They were still unconvinced but I didn't care as I expected it.  :rolleyes:

    I expected it too.  I bought a whole bunch of energy funds and ETFs starting around the 1st of the year.  I tried to convince a lot of my friends and colleagues to do the same but they just don't see it either.  It all seemed so obvious where things are headed. 

    I'm not going to blame Joe for all of it because he kind of walked right into the meat grinder and for decades the government has been on a drunken spending binge running up massive un-payable debts and the Federal Reserve has been accommodating this behavior along with making a lot of rich people a lot richer for a long time now.  All acting as if there are or never will be any consequences.  COVID kind of pulled those consequences forward and now its here.  Food costs and inputs are also rising which is going to result in a lot more suffering on the poor and internationally on developing nations.

    Big 1970's type inflation with an added kicker of out of control government debt and a failing currency is on the way.  If you've lived it or studied it you will know what I'm saying but most people under 50 years of age have no real-life experience to understand.  It will be nothing like anything most have experienced before. 

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  5. 19 hours ago, B-Man said:

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    Crazy old Uncle Joe just wandered out of the basement and onto the stage here! 

     

    One subplot concerning "foreign policy already getting results" is the price action in the energy markets.  The result is you'll be paying well over $3 for gasoline soon. Crude oil prices are in an uptrend.  Supply at the margin is controlled by OPEC (with Saudi Prince MBS) and Russia (with Putin) calling the shots.  OPEC decided to keep production cuts in place this week and price rose significantly.  Who are some targets of the Biden administration so far?  Well traditional whipping boy Russia and now MSB with the intelligence report conclusions.     

     

    Combine that with the decision to stop the Keystone XL pipeline and new limits on fracking and add in some life in the economy if things open up over the course of the Spring and we've got the ingredients for a price climb to around $100 a barrel and certainly gasoline prices well over $3 by Memorial Day.   

     

    Yes, getting results already!       

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  6. 1 hour ago, B-Man said:

     

     

    Well,

     

    March 4th has come and gone...............time to make up another fake reason for this

     

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    Oh wait.........this will do, seeing how the Insurrection tale is fading away..........

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    The only risk faced by the National Guard troops stationed at the Capitol is the potential to die from boredom.  There isn't going to be another "attack" and none are planned.  The so-called intelligence is plain old horse crap.  Made up stories rather than "intelligence" reports which are released for dramatic effect.  Keep the story alive and in the news and on the front page for as long as possible.  I can't understand how totally clueless people are that take it all hook, line, and sinker.  There doesn't seem to be any learning curve here.

     

    Again, there are no attacks coming on the US Capitol building.  What would be the point of it?  I'm open to suggestions and ideas.  Tactically, the element of surprise is clearly gone and the force you'd face is overwhelming.  Other than fulfilling a desire to die what would be the point of leading or participating in such an attack?   

     

    Pelosi suggested another attack is in the works too but I think she's been inhaling a lot of exhaust fumes hiding in the House parking garage from imaginary "right wing militia's".  

  7. 17 minutes ago, BillStime said:

     

    Typo with the 45 - sorry about that.

     

    I'm not against voter id laws but I do think election laws need to be standardized. The whole process is a joke and needs to be cleaned up; including gerrymandering that benefits both sides. 

     

    It's quite clear the GOP has an issue with attrition - they haven't won the popular vote in a presidential since GWB in 2004.  More and more people are fleeing the GOP so the response in red states are to limit how people can vote.

     

    Republicans admit the real reason for election 'reforms' - they help Republicans win

    "An attorney representing the Arizona GOP finally admitted to the Supreme Court why it wants ballot rules on the books: It's about winning."

    A fundamental requirement for any "election reform" might be to remove political parties and their interests from the discussion.  The common interest should focus on the benefits to the voters.  The way it works now is like a competitive sporting  event between two teams where the game is officiated by the manager of one of the teams.  You can't help but think there's going to be some funny business at work here.

     

    Sadly, the entire process might boil down to an exercise in common sense where you could pick a handful of posters on the board here willing to work together in cooperation and they could come up with a sensible and valid approach to the electoral process that ensures its fair and accurate for everybody.  But politics and common sense aren't often spoken or written in the same sentence.

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  8. 43 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

     
    the flip side is I’d rather the one with their mental faculties intact doing it behind the scenes than the alternative. But I firmly believe people think that branch of govt has a lot more power than they actually do anyway.
     

    All the agency appointees mater but are vetted pretty thoroughly by Congress and thus must have broader political allegiances. 
     

    executive orders are often more for show than actually have teeth. 

    I hear what you're sayin' but it doesn't send an assuring message to the international community knowing the President's health is potentially compromising his ability to perform his duties and presents an ambiguous and unknown chain of command.  Its a certainty that every intelligence service of every country we deal with friend or foe is aware of this situation.  Some may be alarmed while others might see opportunity for advantage or mischief.  

     

    And for example if VP Harris was making key decisions and performing key duties I might feel a lot better than if the Joint Chiefs of Staff at the Pentagon had commandeered policy decision making duties for Middle East policy.  Essentially the government is operating without a functional head of state.  This might ultimately fall under the 25th Amendment of the Constitution in some scenario fitting of the the 4 sections.  

  9. 9 hours ago, B-Man said:

     

     

     

    President Biden setting a new record for most days in office without a press conference, and it’s not even close

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    https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/03/03/president-biden-setting-a-new-record-for-most-days-in-office-without-a-press-conference-and-its-not-even-close/

     

     

    and NO, the "town Hall doesn't count. With pre-screened questions from an invitation-only audience, along with CNN’s Anderson Cooper to cover for any screw-ups.

     

    That's not a live press conference.

     

     

     

    However, like most Americans, I don't really see this as a bad thing. Having Joe Biden do a press conference would be a national threat to our security.

    We are safer with his ineptitude safely hidden.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Expanding on your conclusion, wouldn't you agree that having a President that is incapable of performing the most elementary duties of the office is a national security threat?  Which begs the question, if Biden s not calling the shots here, who is?  Actions like VP Harris taking meetings with other world leaders where custom and protocol require them to be handled by the President is a red flag.  Something is wrong.  We know it, our allies know it, and our enemies know it too. 

     

  10. On 2/16/2021 at 8:47 AM, oldmanfan said:

    I may have misinterpreted your comment.  To me the Republican senators that voted to convict did their jobs.  They took an oath to be impartial, they listened, and they voted based on their interpretation of the evidence nd followed their conscience.  As for folks getting fired for expressing opinions in their private life,  I think people routinely get the first amendment right to free speech wrong.  You can speak out against the government all you want.  You can also speak out against your employer all you want, express private opinions on things all you want that may affect the business of your employer.  But then you must accept the consequences of that behavior. 

    You are right once  again here.  The 1st amendment protections apply to the prohibition of government actions to restrict free speech.  When you walk into the workplace you lose your Constitutional rights and you are at the mercy of your employer.  Which to a large extent is true.  There are many things you cannot do inside the workplace environment regardless of what the Constitution allows.

     

    In the case of individuals being targeted by cancel culture, individuals can be targeted for something they said at some point in their life or something they did or didn't do at some point in their life.  it doesn't matter if it has anything to do with your conduct on the job.  The general idea behind the proponents of cancel culture is to punish these people by depriving them of employment or the ability to earn a living by coercing or influencing their employer or management to fire them.  Sometimes it might be for something they said or did 20 or 30 years ago as there's no statute of limitations cancel culture follows.  The objective is to control everyone's behavior, and words and actions by making examples of others.  Like the Roman practice of decimation.  Killing every 10th prisoner.  The origin of the work decimate.  It keeps the remaining group in line with the program through fear and terror.   

     

    Giving in to the mob can leave an employer open to a lot of lawsuits for "wrongful termination".  Can you fire someone "for cause" because of something they said 20 years ago?  Or in a private setting last week?  I guess it depends.  On the terms of employment and the nature of things like employer code of conduct and ethical standards and rules for governing employee behavior.  

     

    But in the end it all works this way.  The mob descends on somebody for something they "said" and then fires up the outrage machinery on social media.  There's pressure on the persons employer at some point whether their job has anything to do with the situation or not.  Soon the employer is targeted for allowing a "terrible" person to work at their firm.  Rather than have the fortitude to stand up to the mob and tell them to MYOB the firm takes the easy way out and looks to dismiss and terminate the employee.  But the legal department warns them there's a big risk of litigation.  So they call in the employee and his representation and hold a meeting.  They give some sob story about how their hands are tied and they're sorry but they need to let the person go for the "good of the company".  But in order to avoid any legal issues or negative publicity they offer the employee a substantial and generous severance package bundled with a non-disclosure agreement.  Everybody walks away happy.  The mob gets their blood, the employer skates away without any business impacts, and the fired employee gets a generous package. 

     

    So what's the point of it all?  It proves some mob of idiots can get you fired and force your employer to give you a few hundred thousand dollars and health care coverage to keep your mouth shut about the whole thing. 

  11. 30 minutes ago, Motorin' said:

     

    Nobody said Dr. Seuss is bad. The Dr. Seuss foundation is going to stop selling a few of his less popular books that have racist depictions in them.

     

    Then they are going to re-release them with updated pictures to try to sell copies of titles that no one has bought in decades. 

     

    But this is as good a reason as any get your panties in a bunch and declare war! Kill the liberals for burning books! 

     

     

    Kill them? No.  Admit them to some facility for the mentally ill?  Yes, as they must be delusional because they "find" racism behind every tree and under every rock.  I assume trees and rocks are racist too as some trees are taller than others and some rocks are bigger or smaller?  I sense an inequality issue here! 

     

    The lives of these intellectually and morally superior super humans must be perfect because they apparently have no problems of their own to devote their time to handling and they are free to concentrate all their time and effort on finding fault and issues with everyone else.  Meanwhile, the rest of us are left to the dreary task of trying to scrape by and generally minding our own business without a care or concern about what Dr. Suess wrote or what pictures he used.  

    17 minutes ago, 716er said:

    When your views are...

     

     

    when the fact is...

     

     

    you are an idiot and deserve zero discourse.

     

    Good day.

    I deserve zero discourse.  Don't flatter yourself..

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    46 minutes ago, 716er said:

    Just checked my liberal city's library (Buffalo!) website and I am able to check out all 6 banned books today.

     

    What gives? Were they not banned?

    It might be some sort of trap to see who checks them out.  You see these far-left liberal PhD do-gooders are crafty and sneaky little twits.  They can find out what "racists" are checking out and reading them and then take the appropriate action to enforce their strict absolute moral code.  Is it just me that finds their behavior, while offensive and annoying, also comical in many ways? 

     

    They waste all their time and energy meddling and getting into all kinds of things that don't produce anything.  If they are disappeared overnight they world wouldn't notice any difference the next morning with the exception of dealing with less BS.  Its like large number lawyers and lawsuits.  The reason we have so many lawsuits is because our universities are graduating so many lawyers.  They all need work so the generation of lawsuits no matter how frivolous is necessary for the creation of employment for all of them.  Like water seeking its own level.  In the case of the wokesters they have all kinds of useless degrees like gender and women's studies, and sociology.  What business that produces real good and services needs to hire a lot of them?  None!  So we get all these unemployable and useless graduates running around looking under every rock and behind every tree for some social evil.  And presto, they keep finding them.  This little moral and ethical quest keeps them all busy.   

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  13. 58 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

    That won't work.  It's a global market now.

    Good answer.  We need to focus back on funding research to get us that innovation.  

     

    51 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

    ‘We’ don’t need to fund innovation. The private sector does that every day at no cost to ‘we’. It’s called competition. It’s pretty inefficient (lots of ideas end up failing) but the competitive system works. What ‘we’ need to do is incentivize the successful companies to keep building things here. What we’ve done instead is to publicly demonize people for succeeding in that race for innovation. 

     

    A lot is determined by the concept of comparative advantage.  You do something better than me and I do something better than you.  Rather than both of us doing both things we each do the one thing we're best at and trade between ourselves the goods or services one or the other make and don't make.  That makes sense. 

     

    But regarding the USA I think there are a few questions that needs to be asked and answered (maybe not by any of us):

     

    1) What are "we" good at making?  What do we have a comparative advantage in doing over trading partners?

    2) What do we want to be good at making?  What future or current manufacturing or technology areas do we want to develop a comparative advantage in?  Like robotics or medical devices or EV's?

    3) What national or local policies and programs might be needed to accomplish this goal?  What are we doing now? What else needs to be done?

    4) What private sector innovations or inventions or expertise is there to leverage and nurture?

    5) What are the skills needed to support these industries and areas?  Does our population have these skills?  And if not, why not?

    6) What targeted educational programs or paths do we have in effect now to support this goal?  What more is needed to do?

     

    While there might be other questions or issues I think the core problem is the USA has nothing that might be described as a plan or strategy whatsoever.  At any level, with a few exceptions in business and government there is just no vision and there is a lack of visionaries required to pull it all off.  Other international competitors are eating our lunch because they do have plans and are executing them well.  But Washington and the business community, and the American people are focused and engaged in a lot of fools errands right now.  Like sitting in the living room of the house and arguing about racism while the house is burning down around them. The thing that might facilitate a lot of positive things happening at some point unfortunately needs to be a disaster that will be the crash and burn of the current system of political, social, and economic con-games and hustles.  Which I think is coming fast.  And the Phoenix will rise from the ashes!   

  14. 11 hours ago, JaCrispy said:

    Looks like the Chinese Communist Party indoctrination is working well on this one...I would never allow my kids to be taught by people like this...God bless America! 

    I forgive you...there, now you can move on...😉

    My message to the mentally ill psychotics pushing CRT is they can shove that crap back up their rear-ends where it came from.  Its not a theory but rather some race baiting fairy tale (are fairy tales racist too?)

     

    And parents and taxpayers need to go to school boards and aggressively inform the school board they will no longer tolerate these curriculum's or teachers or administrators pushing some political or social agenda of any kind on their children.  Its not the job of the schools to socially indoctrinate children in any belief system.  This is something for parents to decide with their children.   If they refuse then they should be prepared to suffer any and all consequences that might fall on them.  And let the politicians who push and support this nonsense that they're next.  After listening to all this garbage masquerading as some kind of science or fact (which none of it is) that these kooks have been puking up on everybody for some time now I've concluded it is senseless to try and reason with them.  You need to get rid of them by neutralizing them by striping them of all social and political power they now hold.  No debate, no compromise.    

  15. On 2/15/2021 at 6:42 PM, JaCrispy said:

    I remember Morgan Freeman saying similar things is past interviews...

     

    Its quite the paradox, actually...you would think that talking about race, and the differences that people have, would help people be more empathetic, and therefore, bring about unity- which it does, to some extent...

     

    However, the problem is if you make racial differences the emphasis of EVERY societal ill, then it actually has the opposite effect, and creates resentment and division, tearing a society apart...

     

    Now, if you want to go down the “rabbit hole” for a moment, and take it one step further, ask yourself ‘who is pushing such racial claims that is tearing our country apart?’

     

    Your answer will, undoubtedly, be groups that align themselves with Marxist ideology- which just so happens to believe the opposite of individual liberty...Basically, these groups have INCENTIVE in destroying our society, and benefit when there is NO unity among the races...they are “trained Marxists” and and “race hustlers” and know exactly what they are doing...

     

    Thats why most people can want justice for George Floyd, while still rejecting the ideology of BLM...Even if they don’t fully understand the politics behind it, there is still something in people’s subconscious (many blacks as well) that senses something is not quite right with that ideology...

    The basic flaw of the "race hustle" is it fails to accept the concept of the individual.  Individuals don't exist, only groups of like individuals.  The concepts of diversity are themselves laced with race bias and stereotypes.  They place everyone is a specific group, you're in the white group, you're in the black group, you're in the Asian, group your in the Hispanic group, you're in the Native American group, etc.  Everyone belongs to a group and by definition assumes all the characteristics and traits the movement associates with that specific group.  The "group" and that determines everything about them.  Exceptions to this groups norms or behaviors or traits are not recognized.   

     

    You could be a millionaire but if you're in a group the "program" identifies as "oppressed" you are oppressed.  You could be dirt poor living below the poverty line but if you belong to a group the "program" identifies as "oppressor" you are an oppressor.  

     

    In order to eliminate racism, bias, and stereotypes the practice of judging and grouping people by their race needs to be to eliminated and people need to be judged solely on the good and bad of their individual self.  I've attended several diversity and culture workshops.  At some point during each of these everybody in the room gets a couple minutes to tell the "group" about themselves.  What I find is that while people come for diverse racial and social backgrounds the stories are pretty consistent.  There is not a lot of difference in what people want.  No "race" has a monopoly on any positive or negative human traits and actions.  Society needs to be "color blind".  Highlighting differences causes differences.  There needs to be a common culture.

     

    An obstacle is the political process.  If you notice one thing about politicians is they take up causes of a "group" of victims and set themselves up as some sort of champion or voice of the people in that "group".  I want to help the poor, I want to help immigrants, I want to help unemployed farm workers, etc.  All groups need to be seen as victims of some other group.  This creates conflict between the two groups, the victims and the targeted oppressors while the politicians slip through the system.  The funny thing is they never seem to "help" anyone except themselves.   Poor people are still poor, immigration still faces the same issues today as 40 years ago, unemployed workers are still unemployed.  But politicians of across the political spectrum magically become wealthy and powerful as they exploit the suffering of others.  

  16. 1 hour ago, Backintheday544 said:

    This is funny how it does bring out hypocrisy. Remember in Kavanaugh, the right was like let it be, it’s old allegations. We believe him. This is a non-story. Now they jump all over Cuomo to resign.

     

    Its not new. The same thing happened with Democrat Senator Franken. The Dems did put pressure on him to resign and he did. 
     

    We’re already seeing Dems call for investigation. AOC being the most prominent one. That is what should happen. I don’t think you’d find any Dem say otherwise.

     

    It would be interesting if the Republicans took a consistent approach with this and applied their Kavanaugh standard to Cuomo but we know that will not happen. 

    Frankly I don't recall some big movement on "the right" to bury the allegations made against Kavanuaugh by Ford.  I believe the push back was generated from the left and their lapdogs in the press declaring a guilty verdict without due process, without hearing witnesses, without having yet held any hearings.  And calls for the President to withdrawal the nomination or for the judge to withdraw himself immediately when the allegation surfaced.  

     

    I suspect the MSM will dare not pre-judge Cuomo to be guilty starting with tomorrow's stories and things like "The View" talk show (if they even mention it).  And it would surprise me if there is any mass movement out of the left for him to immediately resign.  One thing seems clear the story can no longer be pushed to back page like it was most of last week. 

     

    At the confirmation hearings Dr. Ford was given the opportunity to tell her story of alleged sexual misconduct in the case of the Kavanaugh.  But her testimony and recollection of events was contradicted by all other witnesses providing statements that she identified as present at the time she stated the assault took place.  None of them recalled any such get-together even occurring.  Even her "best friend" at the time did not collaborate her story.  And she could not identify the location of the "party" which I found strange since logically you'd expect it would be at a home of one of the individuals she indicated was present. 

     

    It seems like the women accusing Cuomo of misconduct will also be given the chance to tell their story.  This is the right thing to do.  I don't see any political problem here.  Its a case of alleged misconduct by a State governor and these women should be given a fair chance to tell their story without fear of consequences.  Most likely some anonymous fringe alt-left terrorists will threaten them in some way.  What I love most about these cowards is how their self-professed moral superiority is contingent on how well being moral needs to conveniently align with their agenda for it to be expressed.      

     

     

     

     

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  17. 23 minutes ago, ALF said:

    Biden warns Iran to ‘be careful’ after US strike


    The US president spoke while visiting Texas to view and discuss the state’s storm recovery.

    President Joe Biden said that Iran cannot act with “impunity” and warned Iran to “be careful” after a US air strike on Iranian-backed militia site in Syria.

     

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/2/26/biden-visits-texas-to-discuss-storm-recovery

    Only the US is allowed to act with "impunity".   

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  18. 49 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

    Such a change in foreign policy for the better. Trump loved this guy practically licking the blood off his hands 

    The Saudi's might get upset and sell all their Treasury Bond holdings.  I believe the Saudi's are the 3rd largest holder of US debt behind China and Japan.  Or they might threaten to end the petrodollar agreement made back in the early 1970's for settling all oil trades in US dollars (note: oil producing countries that have recently tried to do this had their governments overthrown or were attacked).  maintaining this petrodollar arrangement is the number one Middle East national security interest of the US government. 

     

    The US dollar status as world reserve currency and trade settlement provides special privileges to the US no other nation can utilize.  This system is already becoming compromised as the percentage of reserves and settlement in dollars is falling but a it is happening slowly and in an orderly fashion.  This would speed it up considerably and create a lot of chaos if foreign holders like oil producing countries suddenly decided they do not need or even decided to dump dollars.  They would all come home and that would result in the dollar losing a of of its "value" and hence purchasing power via foreign exchange markets.  That would result in all of our standards of living dropping and lots of inflation related to import prices.  I guess the government could hand out more worthless dollars in more relief bills but they wouldn't be worth much. 

     

    But if the Saudi's do this the US would threaten to stop the protection racket the US provides through military muscle that keeps their brutal and oppressive regime in power.  Without the supply of US weapons, intelligence, and support the population would soon overthrown the monarchy.  So they would be forced to pivot to either Russia or China as a new protector.  In summary, there's a lot of potential for trouble and turmoil in the foreign policy area and virtue signalling might have a cost here.

     

    A problem in people's thinking with many issues is they fail to foresee or entertain there may be consequences or response to all actions taken.  So yes, a change for the better!  

     

    Edit: I should add that of course we all knew the crown prince was the force behind the killing.  It was obvious at the time.  But its not clear what the motivation is at this time to state the obvious.  Perhaps this has been forgotten by President Biden or whoever is performing the tasks and duties assigned to the office of the President. 

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  19. 3 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

    I would disagree with your view of the left as much as I disagree with Trump followers being truly the right.  It is no small coincidence that the Democrats took back the House in 2018 because they had more moderate House candidates going up against Trump supporters.  And that they won back the Presidency with Biden.  
     

    There are some loud very left wing folks in the Democratic Party but they do not control the party.  Peloton is left wing but not radically so; she is a pragmatist.  And if it were a far left wing candidate like AOC running against a rational Republican no question who I vote for.

     

    But referring again to recent data, supposedly over 70% of Republicans want Trump.  I presume they will back whomever he backs in Congressional and Senate races, and presuming they would spew the same craziness Trump does they will lose.  I hope Republicans heed your word and don’t let Trump run again.  But how many people have to run to Florida to kiss his ring to suggest that won’t happen?

    I disagree with your disagreement of my assessment of the left (if that sentence makes sense!).  Frankly, I see them as a very real threat to our freedoms and rights.  I see big government led by the Democrats, media, big tech and intelligence agencies working in cooperation and coordination to shut down any ideas or discussions or opposition to any of their views.  Fact checkers, sensors, all kinds of methods to suppress what I consider essential acceptance of diverse views and opinions feeding into an environment where critical thinking and intelligent expression and free exchange of ideas are healthy.  For example, I may not agree with everything or anything other posters have to say here but I support their right to speak their mind and respect them for stating their views.  After all, why should I assume I am right about everything and others are always wrong?  But that's the essential argument of the sensors, that they know better than anyone else what the absolute truth is about everything.  And other voices should not be allowed to speak for whatever rationale they decide to apply.  The current political and social environment is not healthy.  Its a sign of a sick society.

     

     

     

     

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  20. 23 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

    Open your eyes.  Supposedly over 70% of so-called Republicans say they are for Trump.  Jim Jordan says Trump is the leader of the Republican Party.  Romney says if he decides to run again he’ll be the nominee.  
     

    I’m independent, lean conservative on certain things especially fiscal issues.  The infatuation with Trump has nothing to do with being conservative or right wing.  It is worshipping a guy who lost the legislative and executive branches for Republicans, and who will never pull enough votes from Independents, moderate Republicans, and conservatives (who understand what the word means) to win another election.  This continued worship basically assures the Republicans loss.

    Trump ran on a populist message but never really delivered on any of his promises or stated objectives for the people forgotten by the Democratic party a couple decades ago and never really represented by the core of the Republican party.  That's working people, people that mind their business and do their jobs, small business people, fly over state citizens. People that hold what liberals view as quaint and outdated views, people that are tired of being blamed for all the ills of society.  

     

    His other message was that of a swamp infested Washington federal government.  A government more concerned with its own needs and power than serving the citizens that put them there, intelligence services spying on their own citizens. An unaccountable government out of control.  Watching the Democrats 2021 vengence and revenge tour just confirms and reinforces these beliefs in the 75 million voters.  The left is simply a political cast of sore winners that seems to revel in punishing their opponents.   So much for the voices of reconciliation and coming together.  All this will not be forgotten nor will it be forgiven when the tables turn.  What is the saying on how to treat the people you meet on the way up and why?

       

    But I don't see Trump running again for the top job.  What I do expect is some other leader or leaders that will present themselves as a more polished and refined version of Trump appearing on the scenes.  And the realization that to defeat and drain the swamp you need to come at them from all angles.  So expect lots of candidates at all state, local, and federal levels to begin appearing on ballots in most States.  Winning just the presidency isn't enough.  

  21. 40 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

    I don’t care who’s fault it is, but the market is signaling hyper inflation is coming. If you have any cash in the mattress you better put it into something more tangible or a more responsible countries currency. 

    Somebody that sees thing coming as I do.  The entire thing has been in motion for maybe 20-25 years now.  It's all unavoidable given the circumstances.  Inflation and perhaps the greatest financial and economic disaster in all of history.   That's why I think the Democrats and Biden did Trump a great favor in winning the election.  I saw it described best that becoming President now is like "replacing the Captain of the Titanic after the ship hit the iceberg".  Its going down.  It will all play out but too late to have the blame stick on the previous administration.

    As prices of everything rise along with unemployment and living standard fall its most likely the Democrats will lose control of both the Senate and the House in 2022 and then the presidency in 2024.  Along with the abandonment of a lot of foolish social policies and beliefs that will look absurd and ridiculous in the context of the coming calamity.  

    Buckle up, make some sound investment or savings decisions, and develop or foster social and community arrangements and relationships that will help as cooperation and not conflict will be required to get through things.  Current labels like liberal, conservative, democrat, republican, and other associations will not seem to matter.

    What I don't quite get to this point is the elite's know their system is going to crash and burn and a lot of their wealth and power with it.  So what's their angle to keep control?  Some draconian enforcement of some new order of tighter controls on freedom?

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  22. 18 hours ago, daz28 said:

    So basically if it has a fence around it, then it's a concentration camp, regardless of what's actually taking place inside it.  When the Russians took back Auschwitz, and all the Nazi's were gone, was it still a concentration camp??

    So you're saying detainees were tortured and murdered in these camps while Trump was President and now that Biden is President they are something like Disneyland?   

     

     

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