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  1. 11 hours ago, Homelander said:

     

    Let me get this straight: you're comparing a laundry list of American and NATO interventions with Putin's constant land grabs from his neighbors like he's just a misunderstood guy trying to expand his backyard? Nice try, but one’s about spreading democracy, and the other’s about spreading oppression. Let’s not mix up the motives.

    Yes I am. Seizing Hawaii for example, without a vote by native residents is a land grab. If not, what would you call it? Guam, Somoa, etc.

    And your excuse is spreading democracy. I assume whether or not you were invited or whether or not they want your form of democracy.

    If you think there"s some huge disparity between what we do and they do I believe the term is believing your own BS.

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  2. 18 minutes ago, 4th&long said:

    Who could have guessed trump would destroy the economy? At least the first time around he could blame covid. He better hope for another pandemic soon or he will go down as the only president in history to destroy his own economy on purpose. 

    Nothing of the sort on the level of destroying is appearing in any measures of the economy, yet. CPI and PPI have fallen slightly and energy prices are down. I doubt drill baby drill is going to produce much incremental production because with the exception of the Permean most of the best spots for shale production are fished out or facing steep depletion curves. And the industry is much more cost conscious than before.

    And sure cutting Federal spending and jobs which will bigly impact DC and many States is going to result in some local recessions but over the long haul cutting what looks like dead weight will be positive.

    Sure the markets have taken a hit but if you're investing in companies with PE's above 40 that are growing at 5% or outrunning their prospects or way over valued eventually you'll get what's coming to you which is a big loss. It happens every cycle.

  3. 14 hours ago, Homelander said:

     

    Oh, of course, it's always someone else's fault. How convenient, especially when you're from a country with such a stellar history of never invading anyone.

     

    Poland - 1939

    Finland - 1939-1940

    Baltic States (Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania) - 1940

    Hungary - 1956

    Czechoslovakia - 1968

    Afghanistan - 1979-1989

    Chechnya - 1994-2000

    Georgia - 2008

    Ukraine - 2014-present

    Syria - 2015-present

     

     

    Oh, so now Afghanistan was entirely Biden's mess, but the Bush-era decisions and Trump literally handing Afghanistan to the Taliban with his ‘peace deal’ are somehow irrelevant? Sure, Biden made mistakes, but pretending it was all his fault while ignoring the mess left by both previous administrations is a bit too convenient, don’t you think?

     

     

    The US promised to help the Kurds in Syria, then Trump backed out. Sounds a lot like Afghanistan, doesn’t it?

    Some historical US military actions/interventions (from a country with such a stellar history of never invading anyone). Nobody's hands are clean.
    ARGENTINA 1890 T U.S. “interests” protected in Buenos Aires.
    CHILE 1891 T Marines clash with nationalist rebels.
    HAITI 1891 T Black revolt on Navassa Island defeated.
    HAWAI’I 1893 (-?) N, T Independent kingdom overthrown, seized 1898.
    NICARAGUA 1894 T Month-long occupation of Bluefields.
    CHINA 1894-95 N, T Marines land in Sino-Japanese War
    KOREA 1894-96 T Marines kept in Seoul during war.
    PANAMA 1895 T, N Marines land in Colombian province.2
    NICARAGUA 1896 T Marines land in port of Corinto.
    CHINA 1898-1900 T Boxer Rebellion fought by foreign armies.
    PHILIPPINES 1898-1910 N, T Seized from Spain, killed 600,000 Filipinos.
    CUBA 1898-1902 (-?) N, T Seized from Spain, still hold Guantánamo base.
    PUERTO RICO 1898 (-?) N, T Seized from Spain, occupation continues.
    GUAM 1898 (-?) N, T Seized from Spain, still use as base.
    NICARAGUA 1898 T Marines land at port of San Juan del Sur.
    SAMOA 1899 (-?) T Battle over succession to throne; annexed east.
    NICARAGUA 1899 T Marines land at port of Bluefields.
    PANAMA 1901-14 N, T Broke off from Colombia 1903, annexed Canal Zone;
    opened canal 1914.
    HONDURAS 1903 T Marines intervene in revolution.
    DOMINICAN REP. 1903-04 T U.S. interests protected in revolution.
    KOREA 1904-05 T Marines land in Russo-Japanese War.
    CUBA 1906-09 T Marines land in democratic election.
    NICARAGUA 1907 T “Dollar Diplomacy” protectorate set up.
    HONDURAS 1907 T Marines land during war with Nicaragua.
    PANAMA 1908 T Marines intervene in election contest.
    NICARAGUA 1910 T Marines land in Bluefields & Corinto.
    HONDURAS 1911 T U.S. interests protected in civil war.
    CHINA 1911-41 N, T Continuous occupation with flare-ups.
    CUBA 1912 T U.S. interests protected in civil war.
    PANAMA 1912 T Marines land during heated election.
    HONDURAS 1912 T Marines protect U.S. economic interests.
    NICARAGUA 1912-33 T, B 10-year occupation, fought Sandinista rebels.
    MEXICO 1913 N Americans evacuated during revolution.
    DOMINICAN REP. 1914 N Fight with rebels over Santo Domingo.
    COLORADO 1914 T Army breaks miners’ strike.
    MEXICO 1914-18 N, T Series of interventions against nationalists.
    HAITI 1914-34 T, B 19-year occupation after revolts.
    TEXAS 1915 T Soldiers crush Mexican-American rebellion
    DOMINICAN REP. 1916-24 T Marine occupation for 8 years.
    CUBA 1917-33 T Military occupation, economic protectorate.
    WORLD WAR I 1917-18 N, T Ships sunk, fought Germany for 1.5 years.
    RUSSIA 1918-22 N, T Five landings to fight Bolshevik Revolution.
    PANAMA 1918-20 T “Police duty” during unrest after elections.
    HONDURAS 1919 T Marines land during election campaign.
    YUGOSLAVIA 1919 T Marines intervene for Italy against Serbs in Dalmatia.
    GUATEMALA 1920 T 2-week intervention against unionists.
    WEST VIRGINIA 1920-21 T, B Army intervenes against mineworkers.
    TURKEY 1922 T Fought Turkish nationalists in Smyrna.
    CHINA 1922-27 N, T Deployment during nationalist revolt.
    MEXICO 1923 B Airpower defends Calles from rebellion.
    HONDURAS 1924-25 T Landed twice during election strife.
    PANAMA 1925 T Marines suppress general strike.3
    CHINA 1927-34 T Marines stationed throughout the country.
    EL SALVADOR 1932 N Warships send during Farabundo Martí revolt.
    WASHINGTON DC 1932 T Army stops WWI vet bonus protest.
    WORLD WAR II 1941-45 N, T, B, NW Hawai’i bombed, fought Japan, Italy & Germany
    for 3 years; first nuclear war.
    DETROIT 1943 T Army put down African American rebellion.
    IRAN 1946 NT Soviet troops told to leave northwestern region.
    YUGOSLAVIA 1946 N, NT Response to shoot-down of U.S. plane.
    URUGUAY 1947 NT Bombers deployed as show of strength.
    GREECE 1947-49 CO U.S. directs far-right forces in civil war.
    GERMANY 1948 NT Atomic-capable bombers guard Berlin Airlift.
    CHINA 1948-49 T Marines evacuate citizens before Communist victory.
    PHILIPPINES 1948-54 CO CIA directs war against Huk Rebellion.
    PUERTO RICO 1950 CO Independence rebellion crushed in Ponce.
    KOREA 1951-53 (-?) T, N, B, NT U.S./So. Korea fights China/No. Korea to stalemate
    nuclear threat 1950 vs. China ‘53. Still have bases.
    IRAN 1953 CO CIA overthrows democracy, installs Shah.
    VIETNAM 1954 NT French offered bombs to use vs. Dienbienphu siege.
    GUATEMALA 1954 CO, B, NT CIA directs exile invasion after gov’t nationalized
    EGYPT 1956 NT, T Soviets told to keep out of Suez Crisis;
    Marines evacuate foreigners.
    LEBANON 1958 T, N Army & Marine occupation against rebels.
    IRAQ 1958 NT Iraq warned against invading Kuwait.
    CHINA 1958 NT China told not to move on Taiwan isles.
    PANAMA 1958 T Flag protests erupt into Canal Zone confrontation.
    VIETNAM 1960-75 T, N, B, NT Fought South Vietnam revolt & North Vietnam;
    1 million killed; atomic bomb threats in 1968 & ‘69.

    CUBA 1961 CO CIA-directed Bay of Pigs exile invasion fails.
    GERMANY 1961 NT Alert during Berlin Wall crisis.
    LAOS 1962 CO Military buildup during Pathet Lao guerrilla war.
    CUBA 1962 NT, N Blockade during missile crisis; near-war with Soviets.
    IRAQ 1963 CO CIA organizes coup that killed president, brings Ba’ath
    Party to power, Saddam Hussein as secret service head

    PANAMA 1964 T Panamanians shot for urging canal’s return.
    INDONESIA 1965 CO 1 million+ killed in CIA-assisted army coup.
    DOMINICAN REP. 1965-66 T, B Army & Marines land during election campaign.
    GUATEMALA 1966-67 CO Green Berets intervene against rebels.
    CAMBODIA 1969-75 B, T, N Up to 2 million killed in decade of bombing, starvation,
    political chaos.
    OMAN 1970 CO U.S. directs Iranian marine invasion.
    LAOS 1971-73 CO, B U.S. directs South Vietnamese invasion;
    “carpet-bombs” countryside around Ho Chi Minh Trail.
    CHILE 1973 CO CIA-backed coup ousts elected leftist president.
    CAMBODIA 1975 T, B Gassing of captured ship Mayagüez,
    28 troops die when helicopter shot down.
    ANGOLA 1976-92 CO CIA assists South African-backed UNITA rebels.
    EL SALVADOR 1981-92 CO, T Advisors, overflights aid counterinsurgency war,
    soldiers briefly involved in hotel hostage clash.
    NICARAGUA 1981-90 CO, N CIA directs exile (Contra) invasions, plants harbor
    mines against Sandinista revolutionary gov’t.
    LEBANON 1982-84 N, B, T Marines expel PLO and back far-right Phalangists,
    Navy bombs and shells Muslim rebels, Syrian forces.
    241 Marines killed when Shi’a rebels bomb barracks.
    GRENADA 1983-84 T, B Invasion topples 4-year leftist revolutionary gov’t
    HONDURAS 1983-89 T Maneuvers help build bases near Nicaragua borders.
    IRAN 1984 J Two Iranian jets shot down over Persian Gulf.
    LIBYA 1986 B, N, J Air strikes to topple Qaddafi gov’t.
    BOLIVIA 1986 T Army assists raids on cocaine region.
    IRAN 1987-88 N, B U.S. intervenes on side of Iraq in war, defending
    reflagged tankers & downing civilian jets
    PHILIPPINES 1989 J Air cover provided for government against coup.
    PANAMA 1989-99 T, B Noriega gov’t ousted by 27,000 soldiers,2000+ killed,
    1989. Canal Zone & bases returned, 1999.
    SAUDI ARABIA 1990-91 T, J Iraq countered after invading Kuwait. 540,000 troops
    Stationed; also in Oman, Qatar, Bahrain, UAE, Israel.
    IRAQ 1990-91 B, T, N Blockade of Iraqi & Jordanian ports, air strikes;
    200,000+ killed in invasion of Iraq & Kuwait;
    large-scale destruction of Iraqi military in Gulf War.
    IRAQ 1991-2003 B, N No-fly zone over Kurdish north, Shi’a south; constant
    air strikes, naval-enforced economic sanctions.
    SOMALIA 1992-94 T, N, B U.S.-led United Nations occupation during civil war;
    raids fail against one Mogadishu faction.
    YUGOSLAVIA 1992-94 N NATO blockade of Serbia & Montenegro.
    BOSNIA 1993-95 J, B No-fly zone in civil war; downed jets, bombed Serbs.
    HAITI 1994 T, N Blockade against military government; troops restore
    President Aristide to office three years after coup.
    ZAIRE (CONGO) 1996-97 T Troops at Rwandan Hutu refugee camps, in area where
    Congo revolution begins.
    LIBERIA 1997 T Soldiers under fire during evacuation of foreigners.
    ALBANIA 1997 T Soldiers under fire during evacuation of foreigners.
    SUDAN 1998 M Attack on alleged Al Qaeda nerve gas plant.5
    AFGHANISTAN 1998 M Attack on former CIA training camps used by Al Qaeda
    after its attacks on US embassies.
    IRAQ 1998 B, M Four days of intensive air strikes after weapons
    inspectors allege Iraqi obstructions.
    YUGOSLAVIA 1999 B, M Heavy NATO air strikes after Serbia declines to
    withdraw from Kosovo. NATO occupation of Kosovo.
    YEMEN 2000 N USS Cole, docked in Aden, bombed by Al Qaeda.
    MACEDONIA 2001 T NATO forces disarm & move Kosovo Albanian rebels.
    AFGHANISTAN 2001(-?) T, B, M Invasion to overthrow Taliban, hunt Al Qaeda
    fighters, install Karzai regime, and battle Taliban
    insurgency. 30,000+ U.S. troops, numerous private
    security contractors carry out occupation.
    YEMEN 2002 M Drone missile attack on Al Qaeda, including US citizen.
    PHILIPPINES 2002(-?) T, N Training mission for Philippine military fighting Abu
    Sayyaf rebels evolves into Mindanao combat missions.
    COLOMBIA 2003(-?) T Special Forces sent to rebel zone to back up
    Colombian military protecting oil pipeline.
    IRAQ 2003-11 T, N, B, M Saddam Hussein regime toppled in Baghdad.
    250,000+ U.S. personnel participate in invasion.
    US & UK forces battle Sunni & Shi’a insurgencies.
    160,000+ troops & many private contractors
    stationed on bases.
    LIBERIA 2003 T Troops in peacekeeping force as rebels expel leader.
    HAITI 2004-05 T, N Marines & Army land after right-wing rebels oust
    elected President Aristide, U.S. forces him into exile.
    PAKISTAN 2005(-?) M, B, CO CIA drone, air strikes, Special Forces raids on alleged
    Al Qaeda & Taliban refuge villages kill multiple
    civilians. Drone attacks on Pakistani Mehsud network.
    SOMALIA 2006(-?) M, N, T, CO Special Forces advise Ethiopian invasion that
    topples Islamist government; AC-130 strikes, Cruise
    missile attacks & helicopter raids vs. Al Shabab
    Islamist rebels; naval blockade vs. “pirates” & rebels.
    SYRIA 2008 T Special Forces in helicopter raid near Iraq kill 8 civilians
    YEMEN 2009(-?) M, CO Cruise missile attack on Al Qaeda kills 49 civilians; U.S.
    backing Saudi-Yemeni military attacks on Houthi rebels
    LIBYA 2011(-?) B, M, T, CO NATO coordinates air strikes and missile attacks
    vs. Qaddafi government during uprising by rebel army.
    Constant Special Forces, drone raids vs. Islamist rebels.
    IRAQ 2014(-?) B, M, T, CO Air strikes & Special Forces intervene vs. Islamic
    State insurgents; training Iraqi & Kurdish troops.
    SYRIA 2014(-?) B, M, T, CO Air strikes & Special Forces intervene vs. Islamic
    State insurgents; training other Syrian rebels;
    bomb alleged Syrian gov’t chemical arms sites.
    NIGER 2017 T Special Forces combat Islamist insurgents, fly drones.

  4. 20 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

    and that's going to help increase your personal discretionary income how?  but you'll "own the libs".  Bravo, retribution will be swift and substantial....

    I'm not concerned about how any of this will increase my discretionary income although my investment portfolio has never been higher than it is today because months ago I adjusted my strategy for the new realities instead of wasting time whining about a 5% drop in the Dow. 

     

    I am cheered by the idea the political class of leaches and vampires sucking the taxpayers dry while producing nothing of value, many accumulating multi-million dollar fortunes while looking down at the common worker (telling them to learn to code!), will be getting nothing of value in return. And with luck will be relegated to living in a van down by the river.

     

    Saw a nice quote today:

     

    “The left became hideously, ostentatiously, unapologetically corrupt (as ruling parties tend to do). They sold out bigtime and got bigtime rich. You want to know why none of them want to cut waste anymore? because they’re the ones stealing it.”

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  5. 1 minute ago, Big Blitz said:


     

    None of those questions were asked when prices across the board spiked from 2022-2024.  

     

    None of those questions were asked when 15 days became indefinitely.  
     

     

    The answer is “when we get this ship right” that’s the answer.  
     

    Or just continue printing and throwing money at the problem.   

    I don't expect this administration will stop the money printing. But I do expect them to eliminate all these liberal causes and NGO's employing 100's of thousands of activists, agitators, and democratic party officials and foot soldiers from the list of beneficiaries. That at least, looks like the initial goal.

  6. 1 hour ago, Homelander said:

     

    Sure, Trump definitely would’ve stopped Putin. After all, he was so tough on Russia, right? Like when he praised Putin and couldn’t get enough of him, but hey, at least he handed Syria over to Assad and Russia without a hitch. And who could forget how he ‘won’ in Afghanistan, handing it straight to the Taliban with a nice, neat bow on top? So yeah, I'm sure Putin would've thought twice if Trump were in charge. Totally believable.

     

    Biden's crew crapped their pants with their approach to this conflict and somebody has to clean up the mess now. And hint, it would never have started absent the meddling with the internal affairs of Ukraine by Nuland & the Dept of State along with the CIA. 

     

    And Afghanistan was Biden's mess too. Although it was started with the Bush morons. For starters, he ignored military commanders recommendations not to surrender Bagram airbase instead of taking the fatal risk of running evacuation operations from the Kabul airport. You're going to tell me that was Trump's idea? He was long gone and out of the decision loop when it came to task level decisions. Biden was under no obligation to adhere to any deal the Trump administration made just like he wasn't under any obligation to keep the border secure when they decided to drop all of our defenses and open the floodgates. 

     

    And Syria? Its now run by bloodthirsty Islamic terrorists that US war hawks labelled as moderates. That worked out great too.

     

    See a pattern here yet?

     

     

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  7. 44 minutes ago, T master said:

     

    It's so much easier to complain about things that in all actuality mean little or nothing and blame it on the orange man TDS ! 

     

    The real things like real estate companies & their people taking advantage of surplus and demand in housing making a standard 2100 sq ft home on a acre of property to start at $650k now that's ridiculous or I talked to a man the other day that I work with and he bought a Ford F450 pick up that he aid $90k for now that's another WTF ! 

     

    There are so many other things in our lives that have happened that are so much bigger than the price of a dam egg that politicians of the past have allowed to go on for 100's of years that people just let go tot the way side and don't care things that have effected the entire world yet TDS has them complaining about EGGS Really ...

    Egg prices have become such a focus of "The Resistance" that they've completely stopped talking about abortion.

  8. 8 hours ago, SectionC3 said:

    Question - who do you think knows more about economics, Ray Dalio or Donald Trump?

    I don't think anybody knows anything and the economy and the markets are one giant speculation on the direction of interest rates. When the CPI and PPI numbers come out the reaction isn't on the impact of higher or lower inflation on businesses and consumers. Its about the impact on Federal Reserve policy. 

  9. 12 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

    Why destroy all the evidence of  USAID humanitarian programs?

     

    Roundy? Tibstain? Bueller?

     

     

     

    Why would an agency its advocates claim along with the media reminding us constantly when reporting on the impact of the cuts, that exists to help vaccinate and feed starving children around the world have "secrets"? And how come we haven't heard much protest or concern out of the countries targeted to receive most of the "benefits" bestowed by USAID? Could it be this agency had more malicious and devious goals than its public personna projects.

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  10. 4 hours ago, Homelander said:

    It’s hilarious how Fox News and right-wing influencers act like Trump is some kind of business genius for huckstering Tesla, but can you even imagine the meltdown if Obama so much as mentioned a company in the same way? We'd be hearing about cronyism, shady deals, and how he’s secretly trying to destroy the free market.

     

    But with Trump? Suddenly, it's all "America First" and "business savvy."

     

    Double standards much? 

    Obama would never mention a private company because he believes the government produces wealth not the private sector.

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  11. 59 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

    I don't know where that data comes from, but the U.S. Bureau of Labor statistics apparently has eggs even lower than your price.  But still about 17% higher now than at the end of Biden's term.  And about 60% higher than the rolling average price under Biden.  So we have a ways to go on this inflationary issue.  

    If the price of Eggs was some important component of the CPI index calculation it would get my attention. If the price of something critical, like gasoline was up 17% it would be impactful but the last time I filled up my tank it was $2.85. 

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  12. 8 minutes ago, T master said:

     

    Wow this actually sounds pretty familiar ...

    The party in power can't let the wrong guy win the election because letting the voters choose their President is a threat to democracy. So they annul the results of the 1st round of voting, arrest the guy that won the 1st round on his way to declaring for the second round, and use some procedural ruling presented by the ruling party and heard by a court stacked with ruling party members that voted to exclude the front runner from the second round which he was projected to win. All this in order to stay in power, and of course, save democracy. All with the blessing of EU bureaucrats in Brussels that interfere in more elections than Putin. Yes, it does sound familiar. 

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  13. 8 minutes ago, JohnNord said:


    So they are Super Bowl contender…. They just need a QB.

     

    Solid logic.  

    Yup, solid logic. Every contender needs a QB. Through the drought years the Bills had some good teams that just needed a QB. Going through some old Bills stuff this weekend I ran across a 2003 season calendar. They had some great players on that team but Bledsoe crapped out as the season progressed and they finished 6-10. 9-7 the next season. No playoffs.

     

    On the team:

    Pat Williams

    Travis Henry

    Nate Clements

    Eric Moulds

    Ruben Brown

    Antoine Winfield

    London Fletcher

    Brian Moorman

    Aaron Schobel

     

    I'd take every one of those guys today w/Allen or Allen with that 2003 roster and the Bills are pretty good.

     

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  14. 5 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

    trump on truth social this weekend:  "Shut up about the price of eggs".

    He's so very deeply concerned about the plight of the working class.  You morons were played.

    So we're even. You morons got played by Biden's crew for 4 years. And I say it with confidence the evidence points to the conclusion he wasn't even a real president because he was mentally impaired from day one and others were making "presidential" decisions. They gave us 20% overall inflation. And maybe, just maybe, the policy of killing 150 million egg laying chickens when they find a couple sick birds among the flocks had an impact. Otherwise, try eggbeaters.

  15. 20 minutes ago, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said:

    If this was such a serious issue why is Trump playing golf all the time? That's all he does aside from vomiting out hateful rhetoric for the trailer park crowd to lap up 

     

    And you know he is stuffing his old nasty face with eggs all day

     

    Trump has already answered more media questions in a month than Biden did in 4 years and is on the job all day, every day. He's not out playing golf all the time as you claim. Or napping between meetings. Or just not working. He's on the job at the office. 

    I get it. You're not happy with what he's doing. You're not alone here. But you're only experiencing what a lot of us went through with Biden who worked about 10 hours a week. Hang in there. It's only give or take, another 46 months.

  16. 5 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

    'm at  a fundraiser rotary party tonight.  Good friend, conservative button neck collar, high ranking federal official, (you get the picture) tells me he might be looking for other work.  Let me repeat, he's classically conservative and bright as a spotlight, strong, moral and decent.  and you  f'ers have him looking at greener pastures.  Puitin loves ya'll.
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    I'm not surprised. The Party is in transition and the traditional conservatives that were happy to stick to their ideology, let the Democrats redefine the culture, and be satisfied with playing the role of the Washington Generals of politics have been stripped of power. Bush, Chaney, Romney, McCain, political figures like them. Guys Democrats suddenly loved in 2024 because they shared a common enemy in Trump have lost the battle for party control. 

    Meanwhile, the Democrats far left swing has resulted in many traditional democratic voters going to the populists. Political arrangements are changing. Both parties will never be what they were since around the time of FDR. 

     

  17. 1 hour ago, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said:

    No, Trump is a Putin lover. That's obvious 

     

    Just like he runs the governmnet for the wealthy, he panders to Putin. 

     

    You are just denying the obvious 

    While it's painful obvious the Democrats ran the government to make themselves wealthy while creating little of value courtesy of the taxpayers. 

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  18. 16 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

    It's getting worse.  1/5 of west texans aren't vaccinated but those are all illegals, right "Doc"?  They are the source of all of our problems.  Vermin.

     

    We should all be thankful for the brilliant minds of vaccine skeptics like RFK jr, "Bobby" as trump called him.  I bet his family would disown him if they could.

     

    https://www.livemint.com/news/us-news/us-measles-cases-jump-35-in-a-week-now-found-in-12-states-11741405555623.html

    I recall during the COVID outbreak stories of how officials in South Korea did a very good job of contact and traceability while tracking and identifying COVID cases and the spread of the virus. I'm curious if there are any such efforts among American health officials to identify patient zero here and identify contacts with infected persons and how its spreading? Is this standard procedure with these types of outbreaks?

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