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  1. Anyone who isn't at least as optimistic- and really, more optimistic- than they were about Allen now vs. draft day, is just an idiot.  Plain and simple.  If you are just an Allen skeptic because you looked at his numbers at Wyoming last year (and ignored his numbers the year before- his first year as a college QB, when he had actual weapons, put up good numbers and was named the second team all-MWC QB) and decided there's no way he can be good because some geek said so, like a Mike Schopp, and remain a skeptic, then sure, whatever.  But anyone who thinks his stock has DECLINED since draft day is an absolute moron.  A moron.  Again, he is a) a raw prospect- REMEMBER?, b) has been thrown into action way ahead of everyone's ideal schedule because McDermott/Peterman (another thread), c) has as bad an offensive line as any team in the league and d) has as bad a cast of weapons to work with as any QB in the league.  So if you are reading this and you watched each of the last two games and you are LESS optimistic about Allen than you were in April, YOU ARE A MORON.  That's it.  Period. 

  2. 2 minutes ago, TigerJ said:

    One observation I made today (for myself) is that Josh Allen got hit far more often and harder when he was standing in the pocket making a pass.  When he was running, he was elusive and did the smart thing by going down to avoid the hit.  I agree that short term, he'll be fine running the ball.  However, Buffalo needs to work hard to build up the cast around Allen so that he has other viable options.  In the long run, it would be advantageous if he did not run as often because the Bills could gain yards more effectively in other ways than they seem able to right now.  If they can do that, Allen's running could even be more effective (if that is even possible).  I'm not afraid of Allen running though.

    Exactly.  He got hurt when he got sandwiched by two defenders while vulnerable in the pocket.  Last week he got crushed by three defenders at once, again, totally vulnerable while making a thrown from the pocket.  The vast majority of his runs end with him sliding or running out of bounds.  If he takes a couple hits while running a week, that's still far less than every QB takes each week from the pocket.  If anything, he takes fewer dangerous hits the more he runs.

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  3. 3 hours ago, billsfan89 said:

     

    Stevie was a borderline WR1 for a year or two. Stevie in 2010 put up 82 Receptions, 1000+ yards and 10 TD's when David Nelson and Donald Jones were the other WR's on the roster and Fitz was the QB. Dude was really legit for a few years. But I agree the team needs a dynamic receiver I think there are some good receivers out on the market but not a number 1. Zay I don't see as a player that can develop to a WR1, at best he could be a high end WR2. 

     

    Ideally I would like to see Tate and Emmanuel Sanders join Zay as starters then the team drafts a WR in round 1 or 2 to add some depth and be inline to take over for the two vets in 2020 or beyond. Tate and Sanders would probably cost 25 million total but the limited commitment to Sanders whose 12.4 million expires makes me more willing to commit that amount to the position. They also have plenty of cap space to add those two players and make a big addition or two on the O-line while maybe being able to fit in a defensive player if they so desire without impacting the long term cap picture. 

     

     

    Evans was better in ‘06 than Johnson ever was.  For what it’s worth.  Which isn’t much.

  4. 8 hours ago, Bill from NYC said:

    Good post!!!

    I agree, providing the Bills don't destroy their draft opportunity in 2019, which sadly is far from a forgone conclusion.

    If nothing else- and I am NOT sold on Beane OR McDermott- they have had pretty good drafts the last two years.  Tre'Day, Dawkins, Milano and then Edmunds (I think we can assume he'll at least be a solid starter), Phillips and Johnson this year.  All of these guys are useful players that would start for just about any team.  Even the biggest Bills cynic has to be impressed with their ability to scout and develop defensive talent.  Time to show what they can do on the offensive side of the ball if they want to keep their jobs long term.

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  5. 53 minutes ago, Fadingpain said:

    Point #3 sounds good as you type it, but I wouldn't describe it in the manner.


    Rather, I'd suggest we drafted a project who has never shown signs of being successful in the NFL and he hasn't changed from the profile to date.  No reason to expect him to, either.  

     

    I.E., we have no QB and are highly likely to have no QB next year as well.

     

    That renders all the other points moot.  

     

    It's not about panic, it's about this team maybe, some day, getting good again.

     

     

     

     

    I mean, he played pretty much a perfect game in his second career start at Minnesota but somehow everyone seems to have forgotten this already.

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  6. Been thinking of starting a similar thread lately.  They are going to have a very good defense next season.  They are going to have a ton of money and draft capital to invest in the offense.  If Josh Allen works out, they'll be good as soon as next year.  If he doesn't, they won't be good and they can use their top pick in 2020 on a QB, who will step into a very favorable situation.  The long term outlook is fine.  

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  7. There is no question that Patrick Mahomes is and will be a better NFL QB than Josh Allen.  None.

     

    That being said, Mahomes LITERALLY has had the most ideal transition to becoming a starting NFL QB of any QB ever (with the possible exception of Aaron Rodgers) and Josh Allen has LITERALLY had the least ideal transition to becoming a starting NFL QB of any QB ever (including David Carr).  And this is not hyperbole.  It is impossible to compare the two of them apples to apples.

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  8. Just now, Fadingpain said:

    What about the comeback game against Carolina?

     

    You know, the one where everyone here said we were witnessing the start of the EJ Manuel era, our new franchise QB.

     

     

    You mean the game they won because Luke Kuechly got flagged for a very suspect PI that kept the winning drive alive?  Yes, Allen looked much better against Minnesota than Manuel did that game.  Allen literally threw maybe two bad passes all game.  Not to mention, Manuel had, like, real guys to work with and that was his best game as a pro.  The following week against the Jets, he was every bit as bad as Allen was today, if not worse.  If Allen doesn't exhibit the level of play he showed against Minnesota again this season, then we have a problem.  I am confident he will.  

  9. 1 hour ago, fridge said:

    He hasn't played well at all, but he jumped over a guy and tried to fire the defense up in a losing effort so he might as well get the key to the city in Buffalo.

     

    My benchmark is EJ Manuel, which should be very, very a low bar. Allen needs to improve completing passes in obvious passing situations and clutch third downs. If he keeps getting off the field this quickly I'll have no hope. As an aside, I think even EJ was better at this point, though no one can deny Allen's ceiling, it's a little annoying to watch a shutout and the pass he threw at the end of the first half.

    Allen looked better against Minnesota than EJ Manuel has ever looked in a game in his NFL career.  Just relax.

    1 hour ago, TheElectricCompany said:

     

    He had a good game, no doubt, but it was a Captain Checkdown offense where 70% of his passing numbers came from YAC. 

    This is going to be a tough one for Beane to solve in 2019. You've only got so many dollars and draft picks, and they can't all go to the offense

    #trusttheprocess 

    They have A LOT of dollars and oh yes they can, and they will.

  10. 7 hours ago, Chuck Wagon said:

     

    Largely, I simply don't agree that it's been rules changes that's resulted in the offense explosion. I'm not going to pretend they've hurt it, they've definitely helped. IMO it' s more scheme that's flown up from college football. Everyone's favorite acronym, the RPO, NFL offenses are running spread concepts, putting guys in space and it's putting insane stress on defenses.  We've seen glimpses in the past, our K-Gun, "the Greatest Show on Turf", the 2007 Pats.  But college football has been like this for several years now and it's really hitting the NFL in full stride.  

     

    Simply put, it's more efficient football than what some here are longing for in the "good old days".  

    Yes, I agree that passing every play is more efficient than running.  That was kinda like the point of my post.  And as other people have pointed out, that’s probably always been the case.  But QB’s being way better now, coupled with rule changes designed to bolster offense, has changed the way the game looks and I don’t like it as much.  That doesn’t make me a NASCAR fan?

  11. 4 hours ago, Chuck Wagon said:

    Then stop watching.

     

    I thought the last two primetime games have been very entertaining.  Only place you are going to see I formation with a fullback is on NFL Films.  It's got more to do with scheme than making the rules harsher.

    ?  No.  I love baseball.  I don't like guys who hit 40 HR's and strike out 200 times and the fact that strikeouts across the board are inflated but I still love baseball.  So when the New Jersey Devils ruined hockey with the trap (essentially doing the reverse of what's happening in the NFL), I'm assuming you stopped watching?  Not sure why we can't have a friendly conversation about how the game we all love has so blatantly changed.

  12. 13 hours ago, Gugny said:

    Through 3 weeks (plus last night), the average points scored per team/per game is 22.

     

    For all of 2017 (regular season), the average points scored per team/per game was 23.

     

    I think we saw two very good QBs on display last night.  I don't know what the statistics for average yards of offense/team are - but my guess is that teams are definitely moving the ball more (as NFL defenses continue to be castrated).

     

    The difference with teams with good QBs is more touchdowns and less FGs/turnovers in the red zone - hence the higher score last night.

     

    There was also some ****ty officiating last night (and throughout the league) that contributed to keeping drives alive.

    This is not accurate.  Although again, I am the first to concede that the numbers do not look as staggeringly different as the game feels to me.

     

    https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/NFL/scoring.htm

  13. 9 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said:

    "I can't understand what's happening to the NFL.  Must be all the pansy liberal millennials needing to see points point points to be entertained.  All I just want to see is a full back slam into a linebacker, the running back get 3 yards and then punts.  Remember punts?  Used to be a game changer, a good punt down inside the 5.  Now I see this Rams coach line up for 4th down late in the game or the Eagles go for 4th down in the Super Bowl and I DO NOT KNOW WHATS HAPPENING!!  Don't give me this mularky about spread offenses, that's not my NFL.  If a receiver goes over the middle he needs to go off on a stretcher, that's the NFL I love.  They've ruined my game.  Now excuse me, but I'm going to flip over to NASCAR to see if there are any good car wrecks."

    Dude I am the most liberal person on this entire website.  Nice attempt at satire though.

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