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Touchdown Mckelvin for real? how can this be?

I agree thus I'm not giving up on the Bills however I'm trying to enjoy other teams a bit more now and not take things so to heart.

Well it's not like theres many Nfl teams in western NY.

I'm torn here the fan in me bleeds Blue has for about 30 years. However this is an nfl team and players and coaches who are making alot of money. If I think about it that way as a buisness a product that I and many other fans pay hard earned money to support I think about it a little differently. In the working world I'm an optician lets say you come to me to have glasses made and I make them wrong, then you come back the next year and I make your glasses wrong again, year three I make them wrong yet again. Would you continue to support me or look for a new optician?

Actually conference record would only apply against Indy or Baltimore at this point against the Dolphins or Pats or even the Jets for that matter division would be ahead of conference.

Really dude seek some help this is a sporting event not anything you can control. The fact that you hit things when angry could be a devastating habit. You could end up in jail or worse yet full of lead.

Yeah cause after all its not like dinosaurs like Garcia and Collins could possibly post winning records eh?

This one is totally on the coaching. The players Edwards especially are to blame as well, bottom line chances are very high on play action being huge on that first down hell any of those downs. The real shame in all this is I truly thought after having such a horrible game if Trent could have led the game winning drive it would have pulled him out of his funk in a big way. I fear that by taking away that opportunity the coaches have set him much farther back than even a pick 6 would have at that point.

So much truth here. Here we go again go Suns gahhhhh my hoops team are chokers as well.

We are better than we have played but we are still a young team learning to win. The bigger issue hate to beat the donkey is our lines the offensive line being more the problem. If the offense isn't scoring the defense loses intensity it's just the way things are. We have talent but LINES win super bowls

Agreed there are no flukes due to poor excecution and poor gameplanning. Therefore even if the Dolphins had lost it would not have been a fluke in the true sense of the word. There isnt a stat in the standings called flukes. There can be officiating flukes such as the San Diego Denver game thus one might argue that there should be a column for these said flukes.

This thread has me wondering when was the last time a Bills qb went over 400 yards? Cassell he is looking like the real deal. I think a qb has to prove it over more than one season to be truly considered the real deal.

"What about his overall run defense, the double teams he commands that frees up other players, the pressure he gets, the screens he disrupts..." When was the last time you saw Schobel draw a double team? because I havent seen it this year. Matter of fact last time I saw him he was being handled by Turnstyle. Perhaps Schobels injury is much more than many thought as implied by the amount of time hes missing. Thing is I'm worried about a player his age whose game is based on speed recovering well.

Cool K9 I respect your opinion and your basis for your opinion even if I don't agree with it. I guess I feel the scheme we play is broken as proven by our d lines performance the last few years. Thus I didnt put as much priority on the players fitting our scheme. I'm surprised however that you wouldnt consider OSI over Schobel as I might have him at number one on my list. I guess thats why we all have opinions. I think the main problem I have with Schobel is I feel his speed has waned to the point where I don't think he can cut it at his current weight. Also I was really turned off by what he said to Mitchell about losing a step. Its ok to get older and come to terms with the fact that you are declining physically, however to let the wolves smell your blood is a whole other story. I will agree with you on GO BILLS however. Cheers

I for one think Reed and Youboty being out are big reasons for our drop off. Reed hes our Welker and Youboty well lets just say none of our corners really lay the wood like he does.

Hey K9 since you called me out and disappeared when I asked if you couldnt pick 10 players you would rather have manning that position vs Schobel. I can't compile rankings for all 64 ends in the league but here are 18 players I would feel more comfortable playing the position instead of Schobel, no particular order. Just my opinion but the basis for why I put Schobel in the top twenty. I didnt put much effort into compiling this list and could probably add a few more. Heck I would probably add Joey Porter there as well. John Abraham Julius Peppers DeMarcus Ware Dewayne White Aaron Kampman Mario Williams Dwight Freeney Jared Allen Justin Tuck Osi Umenyiora Shaun Ellis Kalimba Edwards Aaron Smith Shaun Phillips Justin Smith Patrick Kerney Chris Long Kyle Vanden Bosch

Hey to be in the top 20 players at any position in the nfl is nothing to be ashamed of. My criteria was DE's I would rather have than Schobel on my team. Commanding double teams, sacks, forced fumbles ,strength of teammates on the line and ability to make tackles in the backfield. It's easy to name ten I would have instead of him. Eleven to twenty gets harder to grade thus I put him in the top 20 IMO. You cant name ten DE's you would rather have than Schobel?

"He's one of the best DEs in the game." Seeing as there are 64 starting de's in the league and he might rank in the top 20 I guess this is true.

I like the fact that Rush is protected here for the Bills can't rush. And the band Rush has been a model of consinstancy for almost 40 years. I like Cheap Trick however Led Zep works as well when they were touring they were the hottest band in the world one night and a cold turd the next.

Coach says Young will be the starting QB again at some point. Is he just trying to keep the kids confidence high in case he needs him? possibly. All I know for sure is the Titans are for real. I hope the Bills coaches are watching film of those lines.

Wtf, Joey Porter has 2.5 less sacks than the whole Bills D.

Ptr hit the nail on the head untill our line can get consistant push in the running game to control the lead in a game we arent going anywhere when the snow starts flying.

Hah I knew it would only be a matter of time before I saw this thread here. How come everytime someone is against weed they make it seem they believe people who use mj use it all day every day? Are people really that gullible? Doctors, lawyers, politicians, teachers, cops firemen and many others are among my friends that use mj as well as many other professionals. Guess what none of them smoke at or before work. On the other side of the coin I also know losers who burn out their whole day but I don't consider them friends. Reality is many people from all walks of life use mj and continue to be contributing members of society. It doesnt take much work to find the facts that prove that Alcohol and Rx drug abuse are far more detrimental and fatal than the use of mj. Heck text messaging has proven more fatal than mj use. Its really time for the propaganda of the past to be put to rest wake up folks its the 21st century. When was the last time you heard of someone pullin a few rips and beating their wife to a pulp? I could go on and on about this subject but the weekend is here for me so its time to hang with my friends Kens grandaddy and sour dies.

That got me pumped, I gotta say Stroud and Mitchell seem like two of our best FA signings in a long time they both are a perfect fit for our team.

This is all Losman's fault.