WhitewalkerInPhilly
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3 hours ago, Drew21PA said:
Ohhh you KNOW they are going edge rusher or corner
I'm fine with those things...in rounds 2-5.
I know BPA is a philosophy, but the Bills are paying Von Miller too much not to use him and Douglas/Benford are good enough to start next year. With the luck Beane has had getting late round CBs as starters?
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3 hours ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:
Troy Franklin, WR, OregonFWIW Draftek (the site which our own Astro used to contribute on and in general is a decent indicator) currently has Franklin at #28 on their Big Board. I would be ecstatic if that's how it went down.
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The one I think is definitely necessary is ST. In spite of spending a lot on cap space for ST guys we didn't get much juice for the squeeze. Someone on that coaching staff watched Martin practice and went "yep, that's better than Haack". Combined with almost nothing on returns, an erratic Bass and the big mistakes vs the Jets (punt TD to lose it), Denver (12 men) and KC (terrible punts, missed tying FG from the 25) means that if I have to pick one coach to throw into The Pit, that's the one.
I suspect that the Bills will try to retain Brady and will only move on if he gets poached by another team for HC. I suspect that someone will be made official DC (outside hire or elevation) but McDermott keeps calling the plays
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As I keep saying: the last offensive drive had things clicking. Earlier in the season teams were blitzing Josh and it worked. This time we saw blitz beaters to Kincaid (that I had been pounding the table for) and they worked like a charm.
For the most part Josh was incredibly patient. It makes his sudden impatience to try to thread it to Shakir right after the two minute warning stand out even more to me, especially with Diggs open
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2 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:
Honestly I’m not sure I trust this staff to scout wide receivers.
Factoid: the highest round the Bills have drafted a WR in during the McDermott tenure (both Whaley and Beane) was Gabe Davis in the 4th round.
I think they can get someone competent in round 1 or 2
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1 hour ago, Buffalo03 said:
I think he installed some of his own offense. Not a full thing but some of the offense was his
Obviously some wrinkles, but there is absolutely a difference between what you can do on the fly in 8 weeks and what you spend an offseason scheming and May-August installing and field testing.
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8 hours ago, Buffalo03 said:
Brady did kinda implement his own system. I haven't seen us run as much as we have since the bye week. Daboll has more of a pass heavy system
There's a difference between picking better play choices and installing your own offense
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1 hour ago, Nephilim17 said:
@DrDawkinstein Did the following work to summarize the Tompsett vid:
"As a little preview, the detailed plan to get to $72M...
No Brainers - Cap Saved
Restructure Josh - $23M
Restructure Diggs - $13M
Restructure Ed - $3M
Release Hines - $5M
Release Harty - $4M
Total - $48M
Being $29M OVER cap right now, these moves alone put us $19M UNDER.
Tompsett's Preferred/Likely Moves - Cap Savings
Extend Dawkins - $7M
Extend Douglas - $6M
Extend Johnson - $5M
Release Siran Neal - $3M
Release Sam Martin - $1M
Restructure McGovern - $3M
With these moves added to the above, the Bills would be $44M UNDER
Painful but Possible - Cap Savings
Release Poyer - $5.5M
Release Tre - $6M
Bills now $56M UNDER
Prefer Not - Cap Savings
Restructure Milano - $2.5M
Restructure Knox - $6M
Trade Elam - $165k
Release Bates - $1.5M
Release Morse - $5.5M
Bills now $72M UNDER
I type all that to once again reiterate, the cap is a myth."
Thank you. I don't think his numbers are perfect but the upshot remains. It is relatively easy to get under the cap. We can probably retain some departing FA. But we will not be heavy bidders without consequence
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53 minutes ago, BananaB said:
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The play was there. We needed a TD and it was one of very few times our WR got open down field. They were shutting down our run and the 3 times we were in the redzone before that it took an amazing throw to the pylon on the run to get into the ball in the endzone. Just because we continue the drive does not mean we will get a better opportunity. The play was there, WR was open, protection did not hold up. Which sucks because it was great all gameSo you're admitting that Josh passed up the easy receiver for ten yards to gun it to the end zone taking the risk that protection would break down when he had.
Dude did you tune in at the 2 minute earn? The Bills had gone 55 yards purposely bleeding the clock. The ball was moving. Brady had fired up blitz beaters that were averaging 6-8 yards a play. They were 25 yards away. If Allen completes it to Diggs it's at the 15 while strangling the Chiefs.
And if they don't get a TD? Congrats, you've gotten Bass a kick he can hopefully make but with less chance of a KC last minute score. If Diggs drops it congrats you are where the Bills wound up anyway.
I'm not calling for Josh to be pilloried. But he made a mistake in an otherwise excellent game. It wasn't even a fatal one, but it was the first in a fatal string.
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1 hour ago, Beck Water said:
Appoo, you really ought to read Mango's post on this.
In general, players it makes sense to restructure are the young-ish core of the roster who you plan to keep through the years when the restructure could bite you.
It would have been preferable if the Bills could have avoided restructuring him last March, but they did. Let's not compound the errors.
I respectfully disagree with both of you. I think we all can agree that Diggs had a down year. That he looks slower, his hands aren't as good, he's not as gamebreaking as he was before.
He was still 13th in the league in yards, 7th in receptions. And that was with Gabe Davis showing up once a month at the other boundary. He is still absolutely a #1 receiver in this league.
Now, with 2024 looking like a "take your medicine" year, can I justify keeping his contract as is with an expectation that we could feasibly flip him for assets or cut him if he really drops off? Yes. But Larry Fitzgerald still had a heck of a career once he stopped being a boundary WR. Restructuring him through 2025 isn't necessarily crazy, but should be a judement call from the brass based on their plans. Because #1 WRs aren't easy to pick up.
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59 minutes ago, BananaB said:
Most people would consider going to your most reliable WR while he’s open in the endzone would be a smart play. Not Bills fans though, the best play is to cut it short and hope we have an another opportunity at the endzone in upcoming plays. Why? Because our defensive minded coach has let us down so many times late in games. 😂
hey, dumb question, what is easier to make, a 30 yard pass thrown later in your protections or a 6-8 yard pass thrown earlier?
Your inability to understand situational football is noted. Maybe hang out with Ken Dorsey a bit.
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4 minutes ago, transient said:
The defense was a skeleton crew. I'm sure the gameplan was to keep it within a score and bleed the clock on offense from the opening kickoff. When KC's defense adjusted and it became tough sledding on the ground they had to loosen it up by taking shots downfield. I have no complaints about the offensive gameplan yesterday. Improbable as it was to succeed against the Chiefs with the defense as undermanned as it was, it almost worked.
Pretty much. With the defense so damaged, and having no much difficulty stopping the Chiefs from getting chunk plays, Brady's plan (which worked up into the 3rd quarter) was to bully the Chiefs D-line and do as much TOP as possible to keep Mahomes off the field and give as much rest as possible. And when the Chiefs moved to run blitzes, Kincaid was able to work blitz beaters.
Thus my consternation at suddenly deciding to go for high speed kill shot within 2 minutes.
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1 minute ago, Mark Vader said:
What do the Bills do with Tre'Davious White?
That's a real question that doesn't have a great answer.
Now, Aaron Rodgers and his sports doctors will disagree with me but from my knowledge around the league Achillies is a long painful rehab to come back from. Rodgers at least has the excuse that he can be a statue in the pocket and sling it, Tre needs some measure of speed.
Even if Tre is back and ready Week 1 (which sounds like a very generous timeline) I doubt he would ever have the same speed which means you are paying CB1 money for another Douglas or Benford (or worse play).
Complicating matters is that as he took an in game injury he can't be cut outright. He would need to reach an injury settlement That means that out the $16.5 M cap hit, $10M is dead money already guaranteed. Injury settlements prorate the cost of expected missing weeks, so how much of $6.5 is worth a hole on the roster.
My wild card idea (which might be crazy) would be sliding him over to safety. His skill were never elite speed, it was technique and recognition. He'd never be a thumping S, but as a center fielder? maybe. IDK. No option is great
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50 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:
No to Brady. The guy showed again yesterday, he can't make 2nd half adjustments. Get someone in here with something other than what we have been doing and get Josh some damn weapons already.
Did we watch the same game? yes, they had two 3 and outs. But the offense was very much clicking going into the 2 minute warning. After that, it was Allen gunning it to Shakir for a killshot rather than taking the easy check down to Diggs. Allen rolling right and not seeing the open guys (they highlighted it in the broadcast) and then a missed FG. I can't blame Brady for that, especially after creaming the Chiefs on TOP.
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43 minutes ago, Einstein said:
- Mitch Morse said he wants to be back with the Bills next year and expects to be.
Interesting. This is the best that I have seen the Bills O-line for a while and I would hate to break it up once it finally seems to click. His cap hit is tough though, he'd need to take a cut or restructure.
Quote- All offensive players, included Allen, shouted support for Joe Brady.
While I do support the Bills doing their due diligence, for comparison around the league Brian Johnson, he who oversaw the collapse of the Eagles offense while given with an O-line with a long history of success, a franchise QB, a stable of running backs and a one two punch of AJ Brown and DeVante Adams at WR.
He's getting HC interviews.
So it's not out of the question that if the Bills defer, there's a reasonable chance he'll get snatched.
QuoteGabe and Bernard both said they were planning on playing in the AFCCG.
This one infuriates me because we *needed* Bernard. If he's guarding Kelce instead of AJ Kline (even at 60%) I think we win that game.
5 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:Diggs has also shown me enough over the previous seasons to believe his core body injury was/is more significant than he let on, and hope he can come back closer to previous form next year before I even think about moving on.
I'd argue too that even in a down year, he would still be a #1 receiver on a majority of teams in the league. But he *really* needs help on the other boundary
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14 minutes ago, transient said:
ACC?!?! Now them’s fightin’ words!! 😂
Hey they are no powerhouse like the PAC 12 *ducks*
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I'll say this: I will not rule out trading back out of the 1st. I will actually be more surprised if we stay at 28 than not.
While the process is early, it looks like there is a deep crop of receivers. I anticipate that there will "the guy" who the Bills would try to go up for or "a guy" who looks like decent value in the second round.
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1 hour ago, transient said:
Clemson?!?! What heresy is this?!?!
Sorry, I mean the OTHER massive throwing ACC team 😁
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Just now, Warcodered said:
That's just ***** mindboggling to me, the decision to throw the pass to the open WR in the endzone to take the lead past the 2 minute warning in the game is bad. Like the ***** are they talking about, one it's obviously the play call, two what does Josh have to ***** levitate the whole game and shoot lasers from his eyes or some *****, what kind of impossible standard is he being held to.
It's not the wrong decision the entire premise of it being wrong is ridiculous and only exists because they're going eh it's Josh Allen he'll still get it in anyway he should just take a specific amount of clock off and do it at a prescribed time, and that's ***** ridiculous.
I am sorry that your mind is boggled.
Tight window on long developing play for a TD: high risk high reward
Simple pass to your #1 receiver that reaps multiple benefits in the game spot: Low Risk high reward.
what part about this are you not getting? I am not saying that Josh played terrible. He had a good game. But that was a bad decision.
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1 minute ago, Heels20X6 said:
You're banking on the fact that Diggs catches that ball and makes the right play. Maybe Josh lost a little faith in him at that point after he dropped a SURE thing in that 65 yard ball of beauty he threw earlier in the drive.
Coverage was not bad on the play you are talking about. This coverage was blown.
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4 minutes ago, Success said:
Allen's detractors (the people who thought he'd be a bust when he was drafted) are really seizing on his decision to go to Shakir at the end as more proof that he blows it & can't win big games.
This, to me, is insane. First, it wasn't a bad decision at all. Shakir was wide open. It wasn't "hero ball." Beyond that, he carried the team the whole game.
Who else made a big play in that game? Shakir & Kincaid had nice plays & catches - but no one on D really made a play, outside of the goal-line fumble. No sacks, no INT's, blown coverages. That was Allen's game from start to finish. To point out one decision he made as some sort of "proof" of anything is holding him to a ridiculous standard.
No.
Just no.
First off, Shakir was NFL open. He was not wide open. Wide open was Kelce's first TD. it was a tight window that likely works if Allen isn't hit as he's thrown.
But it's the wrong decision for a few reasons. One, he has close to an instant 1st down if he tosses it to Diggs on the crosser. Diggs goes down in bounds it forces KC to use a timeout or the clock winds down to ~1:20. We get 4 more chances at a play like the Shakir throw or Bass gets a little more space to work.
Two, even if the pass works exactly as intended...KC has the ball back with 1:55 and two timeouts. They need a TD, but with our defense giving up at least eight 20+ yard plays? It's a risk I would never take.
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27 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:
How do you absolve Brady and blame Josh for the pass to Shakir. That play is specifically drawn up to be a TD pass. Josh read it correctly. He is hit as he throws the ball.
If he throws to Diggs and we settle for a FG and OT loss everyone is ripping Josh for not throwing to a wide open Shakir in the endzone.
I'm fine with blaming Josh on the 3rd down throw away. He had underneath options that would have made the FG close or maybe would have gotten a first down. No idea what he was seeing or doing on 3rd down. That was hero ball Josh that failed.
...because...your #1 WR is open for an easy catch that gives you a fresh set of downs and ticks off 40s or forces a KC timeout and 4 more chances to score (at minimum)
47 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said:If you have a sure touchdown with less than two minutes to go, you take it.
What QB in the middle of a play sees a touchdown developing and thinks "Oh well our defense sucks so forget throwing to an open WR in the end zone, I'm going to just dink and dunk here to wind the clock down and hope there's another opportunity for a touchdown later"?
It doesn't work that way. To blame Allen for that is laughable.
Look, I am all for the "don't mistake a bad outcome for a bad decision" approach. If that's the decision Allen makes in quarters 1-3 I am applauding his guts and noting that it means that the defense is going to have to play back more.
In that moment?
Did you blame Singletary for going down at the goal line vs the Dolphins game 2 last year? Because that let the Bills put in the dagger. Same philosphy.
You want to give Mahomes 1:55 and 2 timeouts to close out the game? With the way the D had been playing? Are you out of your mind?
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2 minutes ago, peterpan said:
So what stud WRs can we add with all this cap savings?
Can we use cap space to bribe GMs to get a better draft pick? I know you're trolling, but WR is going to be a big focus in the draft
Bills Cap Breakdown by Greg Tompsett
in The Stadium Wall
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I know draft projection by fans is just projection (as if drafting itself) , but Draftek has been a fairly reliable indicator over the past few years. They have 14 WRs who at the very least match the physical characteristics bigger than Peerless Price (6'0 and 185 lbs or bigger) in their top 100.
One of those guys are almost assured to be there at 28. Gabe and Shakir were at their best as #3-4 options, and that's not a bad thing. Draft a guy in the pipeline, see what you can get out of Shorter.
This seems like the year to do it. Add in the fact that the Bills have 9 picks, they have ammunition to go up and get a guy if there's someone they like just out of reach.
That's where I am. I am not going to advocate for getting rid of a HOF player for dead cap and a roster hole.
Stand pat on his contract. If he gets suspended, that's cap savings. If he returns to form, boom, you now have leverage on his contract to cut or renegotiate. If he's washed, you can get cap in 2025 and be free and clear in 2026