Cookiemonster
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Just saw the replays and will admit both were awful calls. Especially considering it was the same guy making both.
That said, I've never seen a penalty put points on the board.
Well you can cross that off your bucket list, cause if you watched the game last Sunday, you saw penalties putting
points on the board.
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I googled it myself, and found different numbers than what he had posted, and therefore asked him for his source. Thanks for the link and your attempt at being a jerk.
Actually, it looked like he was supporting your position.
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This is 100% correct. Seeing as there are 10 times as many baseball games and 5 times as many hockey and basketball games played compared to the NFL, those leagues have to have full time refs--they are traveling all the time. It's not intuitive how havign these guys hanging around HQ from Mon to Fri would change the quality of the calls.
The NFL has far more liberal use of instant replay and refs frequently will confer on the field over a call anyway. There is no meaningful or important use of replay in the NBA or MLB and refs almost never discuss or confer over their calls with other refs/umps. The full time prossional ump behind the plate calling the strike zone has unmatched authority and power to influence the outcome of a game in all of professional sports, for instance. Everyone complains about this ump or that ump's interpretation of the strike zone--and those are "full time guys".
As posted above, these guys know they are being watched/judged/critiqued by their employers and that poor performance impacts negatively on their advancement in this career.Bad calls, and the endless complaints that follow them, will never go away.
Not if the bad calls and poor performance support the NFL's agenda.
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Everything I've read says closer to the post you quoted. Do you have a link or anything showing your numbers?
My bad, I thought that I had looked it up before, and prety sure those were the figures that I saw,
I am shocked that they do not make more than 42-75k annually. I would never want to be one, away from
family for all that time, and that have to submit to ridicule from people like me and you! Albeit mostly
deserved riducle.
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As I understand it they don't get paid as well as the other referee's. I believe I read in an article a while back that it was between $45,000-$60,000 for the 16 games. So most of them have jobs outside of the NFL, because they can obviously make more money throughout the year. Whereas MLB(who get paid the most) crews get upwards of $100,000.
When you think about it, it makes sense. 16 games compared to 162.
Although the NFL is America's hottest sport, you would think the refs could get paid a lot more.
Um, try like ten times that amount, more like $450,000-$600,000 for 16 games.
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Really. Get your e out of your ball.
Don't make me separate you two. But I did get a healty chuckle out of both.
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I am not gonna say that this was the turning point, and I really haven't heard many talking about this,
more about the pass interference dubious calls, but the bad spot by the linesman on the catch by, I think
Roosevelt, was a real killer. That was at a very critical juncture in the game, when it looked like the
Bills were going to make a real bid to get back in it.
Now I was watching on TV, and the yellow line that appears on the screen signifying the first down, was about
a half yard behind the next grid line, maybe the 20 or 25. So if the first down was the yellow line, and even if
it was off by a half yard or so, there is no question that from the angle that I saw, at least the nose and possibly
more of the football was over the next gridline stripe, and I am yelling "challenge, challenge", wasn't surprised at all
that Gailey did, and I fully expexted no overrule, for obvious reasons, but when that MF'er "guns" Hoculi goes over to the
hood and comes back in about 30 seconds and says the call stands, I was real close to tackling my big screen TV.
As a matter of fact, I don't think it took them very long to overule the Wilson Interception either. At least make it
look like you really looked at it it hard. Again, not saying that we would have won, and we should have been able to pick
up the first down anyway, but I think we would have seen a huge momentum swing had Buffalo gotten six on that drive.
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He did state that Burris, on his catch that set up their first score, "he got away with a pretty good push to the back of McGee".
I like Phil, way easier to tolerate than most, and I agree with some of the other posters, he has no axe to grind wiith the Bills.
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I am not gonna say that this was the turning point, and I really haven't heard many talking about this,
more about the pass interference dubious calls, but the bad spot by the linesman on the catch by, I think
Roosevelt, was a real killer. That was at a very critical juncture in the game, when it looked like the
Bills were going to make a real bid to get back in it.
Now I was watching on TV, and the yellow line that appears on the screen signifying the first down, was about
a half yard behind the next grid line, maybe the 20 or 25. So if the first down was the yellow line, and even if
it was off by a half yard or so, there is no question that from the angle that I saw, at least the nose and possibly
more of the football was over the next gridline stripe, and I am yelling "challenge, challenge", wasn't surprised at all
that Gailey did, and I fully expexted no overrule, for obvious reasons, but when that MF'er "guns" Hoculi goes over to the
hood and comes back in about 30 seconds and says the call stands, I was real close to tackling my big screen TV.
As a matter of fact, I don't think it took them very long to overule the Wilson Interception either. At least make it
look like you really looked at it it hard. Again, not saying that we would have won, and we should have been able to pick
up the first down anyway, but I think we would have seen a huge momentum swing had Buffalo gotten six on that drive.
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Mike Vanderjagt of course!
Our new "idiot kicker"
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My eyes must be going. At first glance I thought the title of this tread was Porn Porns
We know what is on your mind! Wrong website dude.
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I realize that this is a little off theme, but Dick LeBeau is the spitting image of the scarecrow form
the wizard of oz. Stuff some hay in the back of jacket and wa la! Sorry no picks, but pretty easy to
visualize.
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It's always the same BS. First, the Bills can't win with Fitz... now they are winning. If the make the playoffs it will be "He can lead them to the playoffs but not a championship". The only way that he will shut people up is to do it. Fitzpatrick is better than several QBs that have won Super Bowls, so yes he can do it.
PS- Ryan Fitzpatrick went to Harvard?
No, it's Haaaaarved!
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I think that he IS dishonest, if you listen to his broadcasts, one week he tells us something
like, that guy is the greatest such and such in the NFL, and the very next week he makes the same statement
about another player, reminds me a lot of Dierdouche. They like to hear themselves talk.
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I think that they are push-ups for men!
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And that billion dollar company would be under a million dollar company if they were fixing games and the truth came out. You could kiss the NFL goodbye. You really think they'd risk that just to drum up some good story lines? REALLY?!?!?
Yes, really. I am not saying they fix, but subtle manipulation,no doubt, and just who is going to expose, and then successfully
battle them in a lawsuit. You saw what happened when Arlen Spectre (congress) wanted an ivestigation of spygate, he was shut down almost
immediatley.You do remember that the NFL is a Monopoly, don't you? So there would have to be someone like an individual team that starts the
process of exposure, and is any team going to do that? The big city marquee matchups are what the protect and covet the most. For example
would the NFL benefit more form like say a GB/NE SB Matchup, or The Lions & the Bills? If you answer that truthfully, then I believe that
I will rest my case.
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Funny, and one is a sex offender, little boys I presume, just like Jimmy's preference.
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Anyone know the dimensions?
Of your Avatar? I don't know, she looks pretty flat to me, maybe like 28-24-32
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Very understandable, who is going to want to hook up legitimatley with that little munchkin look-a-like
punk anyway.I am surprised he could reach that high.
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Or even worse, Gene Steratore...
Couldn't agree with you more, this guys is from my home town south of Pittsburgh, and believe me, he was reffing
powder puff football games on a 60 yard field just a few years ago, al the sudden wa la, he is an NFL ref, and a
head of his crew. His Dad and Brother were NFL refs, go figure! Not sure how he gets to ref for Steeler games, but
I have seen him do many. Nepotism is alive and well. His crew has already been involved in a number of screw ups
just this year, and his explanations post flag are more lengthy and confusing then any of the other refs that get to
speak. Sooner or later he will be exposed, not that anything will come of it.
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It's funny the title of your post. When I start talking with my brother about games down the road, he always
stops me and states, "we can't look past this week's opponenet, and have to stay focused on them", to which I remind
him, that we as fans can look ahead as far as we want and speculate accordingly, just so the players don't.
I have to remind him that as intense as we might be about our beloved Bills, we don't suitup on Sundays. So let
the speculation begin. Can't argue with your speculatuion.
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**eye roll** Really the FIX was in?? not that the NFL minds having the BIGGEST under dogs doing awesome and giving postive PR to the league. NOPE they will fix it that they lose. Dude if the fix was in the Bills win they (and the Lions) the feel good story this yr in the NFL. Plain and simple was at best a blown call at worse a ref unwilling to correct his bad call via review.
What I said about Steratore is absolutley true, the other part was my scpeculation, but I guess your the type
that doesn't think there is any manipulation at all, subtle or otherwise. Yes, we and the Lions are a feel good
story, but don't expect that to get in the way of what ultimate goal is, big pay-off marquee games between big market
cities, at just the right time.
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I used to think Steratore was a solid referee. After this game, I have serious doubts about he and his crew. That said, Buffalo was out-coached and out-played.
Steratore is from my home town, about 30 miles south of Pittsburgh and as recent as 5 years ago he was reffing powder puff games, got in because of his Dad and Uncle, is a complete homer, and a terrible official, I have seen him refing steeler
games. I think that he has ties to mafioso. The fix was in on this game, guaranteed.
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Don't they teach you how to form sentences in college? Wow, that was awful. I hope you were kidding there.
Oh just great, exactly what this board needs, another english professer. No go tell me I speelled professer wrong.
Where do you live vs. Your outlook going forward
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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I'm kind of a glass half fumpty guy.
Seriously though, I hail from a Pittsburgh Pa suburb, and I have had a enough of this sh%t.
We are knockin on the door this year, next year will bulldoze it in.
Go Bills!!!!!!!!
Hey, I resemble that remark! Agree, right direction, but playoffs next year, while not a lock, pretty close to it.