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notwoz

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  1. I know this is heresy -- and I'll probably be banned from the The Stadium Wall -- but if I owned the Bills, I'd put out the word that I would be more than happy to listen to offers from any community (Toronto, Los Angeles, Las Vegas, I really don't care where) that would offer me the best deal that creates the most revenue for me. It really boils down to money. Why should I be content to make a few million on the Bills in an antique of a stadium (I was there for the first ever game -- an exhibition against the Washington Redskins) in Orchard Park if I could make bazillions somewhere else.

  2. Bringing together a bunch of star players and a good coach is not a fluke. You don't just draft a bunch of pro bowl/hall of fame guys and get a hall of fame head coach by accident.

    Yeah, Ralph stumbled onto Bill Polian. Bill Polian knew about football and football talent. He put together some ass-kicking teams. Then Ralph fired Bill Polian, who went to Indianapolis and put together some ass-kicking teams. The Bills, meanwhile, have labored in mediocrity. And that's the point. Ralph got lucky with Polian. And if you would look at the Bills record over the past 50 years you would see that Ralph doesn't get lucky too often.

    Here's the record, through 2008: of 795 games, the Bills have won 348, lost 439 and tied 8.

     

    When we think of the Super Bowl years, we tend to forget the back-to-back 2-14 seasons that led to being able to draft Bruce Smith. For every Bruce Smith, we have seen Mike Williams and Erik Flowers. For every Thurman we see a Greg Bell, for every Shane Conlan we see Tom Ruud and Bob Nelson. For every Paul Seymour we get a Walt Patulski.

     

    We also forget coaches like Kay Stephenson and Hank Bullough. The fact of the matter is that for every Marv, we get a Kay and a Hank and a Mike and a Greg and a Dick. And apparently Ralph thinks that we fans deserve Dick.

  3. :devil:

     

    And for the Buffalo Bills the rotting fish is NOT Head Coach Dick Juron.

     

    The rotting fish IS team owner Ralph Wilson.

     

    If Dick Juron is fired then Ralph Wilson goes out and hires another Dick Juron type coach. Our owner is clearly only interested in making money - he's NOT interested in fielding a competitive team. For the 10th consecutive season!

     

    Period.

     

    :censored:

    Of course Ralph is interested only in the return on his investment. It's never been about the Bills. The 50 year record for the Bills is .400-something (roughly 50 years of 7-9 seasons). Periods like the early '90s were a fluke.

  4. He kept the Bills in Buffalo when he could have left town and made MORE money. He is in the HOF fan because of his involvement in the merger, his W-L record and his commitment to a small market team. You cant look back and take the late 80's and 90's off his track record.

     

    What do you mean by "MORE" money. Do you mean that he could have sold in 1990 for $500 million? Sorry, but this sorry-ass franchise is worth $800 million+ now according to Forbes magazine. He is making "MORE" money by doing nothing, and spending nothing on the "product." Am I supposed to kiss his wrinkly old ass for keeping a losing franchise in town and force it down our throats? He knows how desperate we are for a winner, and we'll buy whatever piece of crap he puts together. His only commitments are to his investment and to making sure that his estate has the fewest headaches possible when he dies and the estate laws force the sale of the team His W-L record over the past 50 years is a losing one --- 348 wins, 439 losses. That includes the late 1980s and early 1990s. In fact, the 50-year record is about 44 percent -- or the equivalent of a 7-9 season, which is exactly what he's given us with Dick Jauron. Commitment to a small market team? He picked it, he's had 50 years to sell if he thought it was not worth the effort. He just wants to bleed the franchise dry. He's a businessman and not an overly-bright businessman at that. It's not surprising that he's from Detroit -- land of the "Big Three" automakers, who have been brought to near-extinction and a massive government bailout by their indifference to providing customers with a high-quality product and expecting us to buy mediocrity.

  5. I agree. I could careless about his role in the merger.

     

    But, he went into the HOF for the merger deal. Not his success on the football field.

     

    That will be his legacy to most

     

    :w00t:

    That's the saddest aspect: His being in the HOF has nothing to do with his stewardship of the Buffalo Bills, but everything to do with helping to create the marketing monster that is the NFL.

  6. His legacy has more to do with bringing the AFL and NFL together.

     

    It has nothing to do with his W-L record.

     

    As a Bills fan I don't care about bringing the AFL and NFL together (to line his pockets), nor do I care that he loaned Al Davis money to keep the Raiders franchise (and the AFL afloat), all I care about is what has he done for the people who support the Buffalo Bills. And from what I can tell, he's given us a team with a losing record. When you produce a substandard product for 50 years running you are not a success.

  7. I'm as frustrated as everyone else about the pathetic state of affairs with the Buffalo Bills and would love to see Dick Jauron, Russ Brandon, John Guy and Tom Modrak get the heave-ho. In fact, I'd be willing to drive up from Northern Virginia to escort this bunch of bums out of town. But, realistically, what good would that do, because we'd just get more of the same, only with different names. As the old saying goes, "a fish rots from the head," and as long as the head is unchanged, we can't expect meaningful change. I thought it might be interesting to see what kind of "product" Ralph Wilson given us fans in his 50 years of ownership. Under his stewardship, the Buffalo Bills have compiled a record of 348 wins, 439 losses and eight ties. (The stats are courtesy of buffalorumblings.com) Not much of a legacy, in my humble opinion. And the only conclusion I can draw is that nothing will change as long as Ralph Wilson's feeble hand is at the helm.

  8. What do you think we could get for Lynch now?

    A first rounder next year?

    Would you trade him for a first next year, then combine those picks if needed to get the best QB in the draft.

    Or keep him and wait for strike three and another trip to the Comissioners office.

    Would it be too much to wish for the bills to trade Lynch for a real coach?

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