colin Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 jp played bad, if not terrible, in the 1st NE, detroit, miami, and GB games and we managed to win 2 of them. if he played just OK we would have won 4 of them and have been 5-3. if he played very well against the jests (as opposed to well in parts, but with bad errors in others) we would have won that too and be 6-2 with losses to NE and the bears on the road. if JP was an average to good quarterback we'd be a winning division contending young team right now. he isn't and we aren't woth considering in the NFL landscape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daquixers_is_back Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 He's had time to survey the field and STILL find no one open. Well then the next thing is to say he should be throwing the ball away, but the coaches have told him to stay in the pocket. Let the shackles come off. 831318[/snapback] So we need new WR's now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffOrange Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Pats O-line stinks. Out goes Bledsoe, in comes Brady. --> They look good Chicago's Oline stinks. Out goes Orton in comes Grossman --> They look good Chiefs O-line stinks. Out goes Green (injury) in comes Huard --> They NOW look good Jags O-line stinks. Out goes Leftwich in comes Gerrard --> They looks good. The Chiefs O-line looked terrible. Difference? Huard plays better, quicker and the defense has to adjust. Look at how dumb some of the responses are when you ask if JP should block, be the RB, etc. when in fact the RB and the O-line would look better if the QB was better. If the defense blitzes 7 guys on a 5 man O-line does the O-line automatically stink if they can't block everyone? Nope. When that QB gets rid of the ball quickly to burn the D then all of a sudden the O-line looks good because the D respects such talent. Without it the pressure is coming and you better think quickly. Huard looks good for the reason why Bulger looks good. Cerebral QBs with mediocre arms improve their game on the bench. They watch, fill in, play some games as a back-up, and get good around 28. Gerrard looks ok and he's been a back-up for a long time. He's got better. It's just that simple. Players can develop from thinking on the bench. McNair, Brady, Young et al. are proof. 831341[/snapback] Terrific post, though I'd cut Green some slack having played a half game this year. Really though, the protection in the 2nd NE game was the same for both QB's, but Brady makes plays when he has time even with crappy WR's. When your QB doesn't make plays when given time, the TBD "zomg no time!" group-think is out in full force with their selective memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffOrange Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 I mean, what was JP doing, not holding blocks, not tackling downfield, not catching balls thrown to him? Of COURSE it's all on JP's shoulders this team has sucked. 831551[/snapback] It wasn't funny the first 8,000 times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daquixers_is_back Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 It wasn't funny the first 8,000 times. 832319[/snapback] Very, very true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton's Arm Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Never mind the fact he had Wicky Williams in the backfield. Let's put it this way, Gnome.... Bills QBs in reverse order since Kelly's retirement: Losman Bledsoe Johnson Flutie Van Pelt Collins Is it just a sad coincidence that all these guys sucked or is it that they've had NOTHING to work with OL- and offensive talent-wise? 830581[/snapback] Both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 It wasn't funny the first 8,000 times. The truth is seldom funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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