Mikie2times Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 Over the last two years Willis has had more success between the 20's then your average NFL back. Yet whenever a 3rd or 4th and short comes up we can't ever seem to run for a first down. What bothers me the most is this was one of MaGahee's greatest strengths in 2004, and while he played at Miami. IMO the biggest problem is the Bills are going in the direction of finesse on there offensive line, and that style doesn't fit the type of RB MaGahee is. He's not a one step cutback style runner, and he doesn't get to the edge with a ton of speed. The type of line we have goes with a Clinton Portis or Willie Parker type runner. Ideally Buffalo's offense would be best off with that style back, plus a short yardage specialist (Possibly A-Train). If we intend on keeping Willis we must at the very least look at upgrading our run blocking. To me that means either replacing both Guards, or replacing one G and one T. I like Duke Preston as a G prospect, but I worry his run blocking won't be an upgrade over Villerial, who could be on his last hurrah. On the opposite side Reyes would be much better served as a back up, and would bring a lot of depth in that roll. We would be ok with one G out of Villerial, Preston, or Reyes, but if we do that we need to move Peters over to LT. Right now Gandy is an average to above average LT, but he's all finesse, and the same goes for Peters whose inexperience hurts his leverage in these situations. We would be best served bringing in a true power RT, something we had in 2004 with Williams (I know horrible pass blocking). Peters could then move to LT, and Gandy would slide into being an outstanding depth player. Of course I fully expect Willis, and the OL to do just enough between the 20's to make no changes come 2007. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mile High Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 Or having a lead blocker. 4th quarter 11:00 left. 1st and goal Willis for 4, 3 wide set. 2nd and goal Willis for 1, 1 wr reciever double tight end set. 3rd down trips to the right with Evans alone on the left and Willis the lone set back. Bootleg attempt by Losman -8 yards. Noone on the right defensive end. By watching the film it looked like Gandy's assingment was to "crack down" on the rolb. Making it apparent that JP was supposed to be one on one with the rde. My question is where the heck was Shelton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted September 25, 2006 Author Share Posted September 25, 2006 Or having a lead blocker. 4th quarter 11:00 left. 1st and goal Willis for 4, 3 wide set. 2nd and goal Willis for 1, 1 wr reciever double tight end set. 3rd down trips to the right with Evans alone on the left and Willis the lone set back. Bootleg attempt by Losman -8 yards. Noone on the right defensive end. By watching the film it looked like Gandy's assingment was to "crack down" on the rolb. Making it apparent that JP was supposed to be one on one with the rde. My question is where the heck was Shelton? 785386[/snapback] I know he was hurt late, possibly on that drive. Still even when he's been healthy this problem dates back well into last year. It's forced us to be cute in these situations, which can lead to a bit of an identity crisis when you’re trying to run the ball 30+ times a game and be a power football team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deep2Moulds46 Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 I know he was hurt late, possibly on that drive. Still even when he's been healthy this problem dates back well into last year. It's forced us to be cute in these situations, which can lead to a bit of an identity crisis when you’re trying to run the ball 30+ times a game and be a power football team. 785387[/snapback] Im not buying this..." Shelton was hurt, so we couldn't use our short yardage package" garbage. Thats crazy. Why did you keep Ryan Neufeld is our backup FB. In a goalline set, you have 3 TE's a FB, and a RB. You move Neufeld back to FB, you bring in Preston or Pennington to play RT, and you slide Peters over to the TE spot directly to the right of the RT...and you still have Everett and Royal in there as blocking TE's. If they really have to abandon their short yardage package if Shelton gets hurt....then they should have kept Joe Burns or Alan Ricard around. That's ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mile High Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 Im not buying this..." Shelton was hurt, so we couldn't use our short yardage package" garbage. Thats crazy. Why did you keep Ryan Neufeld is our backup FB. In a goalline set, you have 3 TE's a FB, and a RB. You move Neufeld back to FB, you bring in Preston or Pennington to play RT, and you slide Peters over to the TE spot directly to the right of the RT...and you still have Everett and Royal in there as blocking TE's. If they really have to abandon their short yardage package if Shelton gets hurt....then they should have kept Joe Burns or Alan Ricard around. That's ridiculous. 785391[/snapback] Right on. Supposedly Nuefeld is our b/u te. I really never understood why Burns or Ricard aren't around but Nuefeld is? Granted Burns wasn't the best blocking fb and Ricard seemed to be just as good as Shelton with better hands. It's not like RN is lighting up defenses or is a special teams stud. Or it could be because we have 7 lbs on our roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted September 25, 2006 Author Share Posted September 25, 2006 Im not buying this..." Shelton was hurt, so we couldn't use our short yardage package" garbage. Thats crazy. Why did you keep Ryan Neufeld is our backup FB. In a goalline set, you have 3 TE's a FB, and a RB. You move Neufeld back to FB, you bring in Preston or Pennington to play RT, and you slide Peters over to the TE spot directly to the right of the RT...and you still have Everett and Royal in there as blocking TE's. If they really have to abandon their short yardage package if Shelton gets hurt....then they should have kept Joe Burns or Alan Ricard around. That's ridiculous. 785391[/snapback] Maybe you missed his question, it was where was Shelton? Not why can’t the Bills run the goal line package without him. But what makes you think the Bills would want to run there goaline package without Shelton? The Bills don't have the players to line up man on man and out power defensive lines in short yardage. That statement applies with Shelton healthy, so how do they end up looking any better in it without him? Expect Fairchild to continue trying to find sets that work for us in short yardage. In the meantime the rest of us can get pissed were not running for 0 yards on three consecutive carries from our goal line set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SethinShelby Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 For years we have had problems getting the tough yards on 3rd and 4th and 1 yard to go. Penningotn had like a seven yard sneak on his 4th and one play. Tom Brady sneaks and stumbles ahead for 5 yards. We go with a quick count or something. I think we need a 3rd string running back the specializes in short yardage. In stead of having Shaud Williams we need a bruiser like a Brandon Jacobs or a Mack Strong. Give A-Train a couple cracks at it in short yardage. He could be the answer and we just havent given him the chance. And of course our o-line might not have the attitude or somthin. I have no idea how to explain our year after year ineptitude in short yardage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mile High Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 For years we have had problems getting the tough yards on 3rd and 4th and 1 yard to go. Penningotn had like a seven yard sneak on his 4th and one play. Tom Brady sneaks and stumbles ahead for 5 yards. We go with a quick count or something. I think we need a 3rd string running back the specializes in short yardage. In stead of having Shaud Williams we need a bruiser like a Brandon Jacobs or a Mack Strong. Give A-Train a couple cracks at it in short yardage. He could be the answer and we just havent given him the chance. And of course our o-line might not have the attitude or somthin. I have no idea how to explain our year after year ineptitude in short yardage. 785398[/snapback] On the other side of the ball there seems to be a bigger problem with the qb picking up yardage at will. Especially up the middle. The Jets did a good job in the film room picking up this weakness due to Brady's success. My hat is seriously off to the Jets oline on the short yardage plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 I actually came to a different conclusion yesterday: I don't think Willis hits the hole full-speed in short-yardage situations. If you compare the way he runs on 1st and 10 to the way he runs on 3rd and 1, I think you'll see a big difference: in short-yardage spots, Willis is tentative, he dances and waits for the right hole to develop. Same on the goal line plays. Compare that to the way he bursts through the line on normal downs. Seems to me that might be the problem - Willis needs to just pick up some steam. Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UHSLA Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 Shelton got hurt at the end of the second quarter on the last kick off return. He wobbled off the field. Not sure what happened. Neufeld actually did a pretty decent job as his replacement. Saw him do some good blocking and he got open a couple times - but JP was clearly looking to throw to Evans in triple coverage down the field, so I'm guessing he didn't realize he had guys open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 Get to the LOS rapidly, get set, go on a quick snap and plant the ball into the gut of the up back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Fong Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 Two times up the middle with Thomas would have scored that TD. Instead of that pathetic Flutie wanna-be play. Don't get cute just f'ing score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 Two more good drafts should do it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluv Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 My issue with the bootleg: why wait until 3rd down to try such a play that the defense might suspect on 3rd down? WHy not try it on 1st or 2nd so that if it is blotched you have 3rd down to pick it up? I mean the Jets got a TD on 2nd down on their trick play in the endzone and fooled us good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taterhill Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 2 CHOICES..BRING BACK LARRY KINNEBREW or ROBB RIDDICK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 2 CHOICES..BRING BACK LARRY KINNEBREW or ROBB RIDDICK 785770[/snapback] NO ITS NOT PERSONNEL ITS BEING QUICK AND BOLD STOP DAMN YOUR EYES STOP WUX STOP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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