MadBuffaloDisease Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 According to Billsdaily.com, Dorenbos was released because his snaps affected Lindell. Let's hope that's the case. He thought the inconsistency in the long snapping affected the kicking game of Rian Lindell. The new long snapper should help Lindell. http://billsdaily.com/news/index.shtml#091005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ofiba Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 So Dorenbos is the reason Lindell can't kick a 32 yard field goal? I think we all owe Ryan an apology. He deserves a big raise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 so if the new long snapper doesn't work out, are we gonna cut our placeholder next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ofiba Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 so if the new long snapper doesn't work out, are we gonna cut our placeholder next? 435924[/snapback] Well if he's affecting our kicks, we would have to. I'd cut everyone else on the team before cutting the man actually responsible for kicking the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoker2Buffalo Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 Well if he's affecting our kicks, we would have to. 435926[/snapback] Uhhhhh, definitely not. Our placeholder is Brian Moorman!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarthur31 Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 Rubbish. Any great kicker can perform with any holder or long snapper. It's time to stop covering for Dian Rian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkwwjd Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 I thought dorenbos only snapped on punts ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EC-Bills Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 Uhhhhh, definitely not. Our placeholder is Brian Moorman!!! 435933[/snapback] Too late. He's now gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EC-Bills Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 Maybe this whole Lindell situation is the reason Tucker is gone too. He may have been peeing into Lindell's hot tub... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gross Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 Rubbish. Any great kicker can perform with any holder or long snapper. It's time to stop covering for Dian Rian. 435972[/snapback] Especially since that was the excuse that Christie was using for his performance when he got the boot (that he had a new snapper and holder...). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manny in buffalo Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 Lets see if i have this all straight.They cut drew haddad who caught everything all preseason,but kept josh reed?Then they cut rashard lee and kept an extra receiver like sam aiken?Then lindel misses nearly every kick since hes been here,so lets keep him and release dorenbos?Then both jerman an geisinger looked befuddled in the games..lets keep them and cut ross tucker?Then they cut ritzman who recorded some nice preseason sacks at de,but kept a stiff like rashad baker at db?Im beginning to wonder about this coaching staff too..oh well at least there are smarter than greg williams and his clowns..right?They wont play a confused losman..and never try holcomb once, if the kid struggles..right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoker2Buffalo Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 Sure Manny... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 The thing about Lindell, is that his best season, his last in Seattle, was really his only decent season in the leauge. If this is true, about Dorenbos getting cut to help Lindell, I would have to wonder why they let it go on for so long. It seems kind of odd, if Dorenbos is/was truly the problem, they would wait to address it the final week, of the third preseason, that Dorenbos and Lindell were working together. Honestly, I just think Lindell sucks. I rarely say that about a Bills player, but I think, as they say on the "X-Files", the truth is out there. Lindell is average at best, and maybe even below average...it was one thing for TD & Co. to build a team to try to revive Drew Bledsoe's career (he had some credentials), but why all this trouble, and long leash for Rian Lindell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 The thing about Lindell, is that his best season, his last in Seattle, was really his only decent season in the leauge. If this is true, about Dorenbos getting cut to help Lindell, I would have to wonder why they let it go on for so long. It seems kind of odd, if Dorenbos is/was truly the problem, they would wait to address it the final week, of the third preseason, that Dorenbos and Lindell were working together. Honestly, I just think Lindell sucks. I rarely say that about a Bills player, but I think, as they say on the "X-Files", the truth is out there. Lindell is average at best, and maybe even below average...it was one thing for TD & Co. to build a team to try to revive Drew Bledsoe's career (he had some credentials), but why all this trouble, and long leash for Rian Lindell? 436207[/snapback] Wrong, Lindell best year were his first year at Seattle and last year with the bills: 2000 15-17 88.2% 2001 20-32 62.5% 2002 23-29 79.3% 2003 17-24 70.8% 2004 24-28 85.7% In fact in his first year he was 7-8 from 40-49 yards and 3-3 beyond 50 yards. As far as mannys contentions, Haddad dropped several passes plus fumbled a punt return that was nullified because of a penalty. Reed basically had 1 drop per game, but he flat out outplayed the rest of the receivers during preseason, and was getting open. Dorenbos has issues not only with the actual snap but the coaches have also said he couldn't block at all, once he snapped the ball leaving the middle open, and forcing some weird kicks to compensate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ (not THAT RJ) Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 Wrong, Lindell best year were his first year at Seattle and last year with the bills: 2000 15-17 88.2% 2001 20-32 62.5% 2002 23-29 79.3% 2003 17-24 70.8% 2004 24-28 85.7% In fact in his first year he was 7-8 from 40-49 yards and 3-3 beyond 50 yards. As far as mannys contentions, Haddad dropped several passes plus fumbled a punt return that was nullified because of a penalty. Reed basically had 1 drop per game, but he flat out outplayed the rest of the receivers during preseason, and was getting open. Dorenbos has issues not only with the actual snap but the coaches have also said he couldn't block at all, once he snapped the ball leaving the middle open, and forcing some weird kicks to compensate. 436218[/snapback] Well researched and well put. Another blow against the anti-TD conspiracies. I hope that Lindell does not make us all regret it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sound_n_Fury Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 I thought I'd keep this thread alive just for laughs! (You think Bobby April might know a thing or two?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester43 Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 why are people not climbing all over each other to give lindell some credit today?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 Wrong, Lindell best year were his first year at Seattle and last year with the bills: 2000 15-17 88.2% 2001 20-32 62.5% 2002 23-29 79.3% 2003 17-24 70.8% 2004 24-28 85.7% In fact in his first year he was 7-8 from 40-49 yards and 3-3 beyond 50 yards. As far as mannys contentions, Haddad dropped several passes plus fumbled a punt return that was nullified because of a penalty. Reed basically had 1 drop per game, but he flat out outplayed the rest of the receivers during preseason, and was getting open. Dorenbos has issues not only with the actual snap but the coaches have also said he couldn't block at all, once he snapped the ball leaving the middle open, and forcing some weird kicks to compensate. 436218[/snapback] Okay, I will concede, after today, and eat my serving of humble pie. Lindell was solid today. However, unlike baseball, in football, simple stats don't usually tell the whole story. If last season, with the Bills, ranks as one of Lindells' two best seasons, because he hit a high percentage it is further proof that the guy has been sub-par. Those stats don't take into account the quality of the misses, or the fact that the Bills didn't really use him as an option all of the time, it seems, because of his limitations. I hope todays' performance is an indication that Lindell has finally turned a corner, but I am not sure yet. He nailed a 45 yarder and a 52 yarder in his first preseason game, and then proceded to miss chip shots in the rest of the preseason. He may turn out to be fine, but I can't think of another kicker in team history, who has been given so many chances to prove himself reliable, with such mediocre results. Good game today though! All drink to Lindell! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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