ScotSHO Posted Thursday at 05:25 PM Posted Thursday at 05:25 PM 4 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: Obviously we need immigrants who are willing to work hard at providing the services our families need. And this kind of nursing home/home care job is, unfortunately, one that we really can't seem to find native-born citizens to do. Yes, banning legal and illegal immigration will drive up wages, and maybe some native Americans will apply, and maybe some will do a good job for a much higher wage. And then we'll all pay a lot more for old age care. How do you support minimum wage laws when you take this stance? Immigrants won't drive up labor costs equally? Or is that why you want them to remain "illegal", so you can pay them under the table?
The Frankish Reich Posted Thursday at 05:32 PM Posted Thursday at 05:32 PM 6 minutes ago, ScotSHO said: How do you support minimum wage laws when you take this stance? Immigrants won't drive up labor costs equally? Or is that why you want them to remain "illegal", so you can pay them under the table? Well, for one I don't support minimum wage laws. I don't want illegal immigration, but I do want substantially more renewable work visas.
ScotSHO Posted Thursday at 06:25 PM Posted Thursday at 06:25 PM 51 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: Well, for one I don't support minimum wage laws. I don't want illegal immigration, but I do want substantially more renewable work visas. That actually squares up, but I differ with you because I think we have the citizens that will do this work. I haven't just washed my hands and assumed half the nation is lost forever like you have.
Andy1 Posted Thursday at 11:38 PM Posted Thursday at 11:38 PM 3 hours ago, ScotSHO said: That actually squares up, but I differ with you because I think we have the citizens that will do this work. I haven't just washed my hands and assumed half the nation is lost forever like you have. I don’t know where you think a million extra new care givers are going to come from. We need expanded legal immigration to care for our elderly or else who will be wiping the baby boomers a_ses? That’s a reality America is not prepared for. The United States is facing a larger population of adults over the age of 65 than ever before, primarily made up of baby boomers (those born between 1946 and 1964). This demographic group grew rapidly, exploding from 41 million people in 2011 to 71 million in 2019 — a massive 73% increase. The U.S. Census Bureau estimates this number will keep rising, projecting it will reach 82 million by 2030. Seven out of 10 of these Americans aged 65+ will eventually need long-term care. Therefore, by 2030, the demand for home health care is anticipated to grow by 46% with more than 1 million new home care jobs needing to be filled. https://www.asbestos.com/support/caregivers/shortage-by-state/
Andy1 Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago 44 minutes ago, Homelander said: He acts like he only wants to be President for part of the country and some of the people. He views the blue states as the enemy within.
JDHillFan Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago (edited) 18 minutes ago, Andy1 said: He acts like he only wants to be President for part of the country and some of the people. He views the blue states as the enemy within. I wish we had a uniter in office. Edited 22 hours ago by JDHillFan
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 2 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: I wish we had a uniter in office. These people think history doesn't exist? Trump gets these people sooo worked up.
JFKjr Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 18 hours ago, Andy1 said: I don’t know where you think a million extra new care givers are going to come from. We need expanded legal immigration to care for our elderly or else who will be wiping the baby boomers a_ses? That’s a reality America is not prepared for. The United States is facing a larger population of adults over the age of 65 than ever before, primarily made up of baby boomers (those born between 1946 and 1964). This demographic group grew rapidly, exploding from 41 million people in 2011 to 71 million in 2019 — a massive 73% increase. The U.S. Census Bureau estimates this number will keep rising, projecting it will reach 82 million by 2030. Seven out of 10 of these Americans aged 65+ will eventually need long-term care. Therefore, by 2030, the demand for home health care is anticipated to grow by 46% with more than 1 million new home care jobs needing to be filled. https://www.asbestos.com/support/caregivers/shortage-by-state/ Who would you hire if their weren't any illegal immigrants available?
Andy1 Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 3 hours ago, JFKjr said: Who would you hire if there weren't any illegal immigrants available? Do you think every immigrant is illegal? We need expanded legal immigration. 1
JFKjr Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 2 hours ago, Andy1 said: Do you think every immigrant is illegal? We need expanded legal immigration. The ones who will work for cheap are illegal. The ones at the home health care agencies are expensive. But, they're there for the hiring.
Andy1 Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 3 hours ago, JFKjr said: The ones who will work for cheap are illegal. The ones at the home health care agencies are expensive. But, they're there for the hiring. Sure, anyone - citizen or illegal, working on their own will be cheaper. We ended up using agency care givers. What I do know is that the retention rate for workers in the field is low. The agency isn’t paying them much. Walmart might pay better. We experienced constant turnover of Americans willing to care for our low maintenance father. Anyone with basic job skills are looking for other work opportunities. Hence, immigrant women may be more willing to do this type of work. If your loved one needs care, you aren’t asking what their immigration status is. 1
Wolfgang Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 1 hour ago, Andy1 said: Sure, anyone - citizen or illegal, working on their own will be cheaper. We ended up using agency care givers. What I do know is that the retention rate for workers in the field is low. The agency isn’t paying them much. Walmart might pay better. We experienced constant turnover of Americans willing to care for our low maintenance father. Anyone with basic job skills are looking for other work opportunities. Hence, immigrant women may be more willing to do this type of work. If your loved one needs care, you aren’t asking what their immigration status is. I bet you miss the good old days of slavery... Low overhead... High worker retention... Other than the occasional whipping of a slave to maintain order, life for you and your loved ones is much easier...
Andy1 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 8 hours ago, Wolfgang said: I bet you miss the good old days of slavery... Low overhead... High worker retention... Other than the occasional whipping of a slave to maintain order, life for you and your loved ones is much easier... That’s a stupid comment based on assumptions and no knowledge. You call an agency, they send someone, you make sure they do what you are paying them to do. That’s it. Are you asking for proof of citizenship or immigration papers for the mechanic who give your truck an oil change, or the woman cleaning your hotel room, or the cook at the diner you go to, or the crew working for the contractor to replace your roof or pave your driveway? I doubt it, so looks like you must miss the good old days of slavery and keep your whip handy. 1
Wolfgang Posted 17 minutes ago Posted 17 minutes ago 1 hour ago, Andy1 said: That’s a stupid comment based on assumptions and no knowledge. You call an agency, they send someone, you make sure they do what you are paying them to do. That’s it. Are you asking for proof of citizenship or immigration papers for the mechanic who give your truck an oil change, or the woman cleaning your hotel room, or the cook at the diner you go to, or the crew working for the contractor to replace your roof or pave your driveway? I doubt it, so looks like you must miss the good old days of slavery and keep your whip handy. When I built my house as the GC, yes, zero illegal labor was used... I don't use hotels for a number of reasons, illegal labor being one of them... I don't use a mechanic that is here illegally... I don't go to diners or restaurants, same reasons, plus I am a superior cook... Diners and restaurants are a waste of money... The fact that you could not care less who is here illegally seems to be your stance as long as you benefit from it... Admirable... Like I said, slavery would be right up your alley...
The Frankish Reich Posted 14 minutes ago Posted 14 minutes ago 2 minutes ago, Wolfgang said: When I built my house as the GC, yes, zero illegal labor was used... I don't use hotels for a number of reasons, illegal labor being one of them... I don't use a mechanic that is here illegally... I don't go to diners or restaurants, same reasons, plus I am a superior cook... Diners and restaurants are a waste of money... The fact that you could not care less who is here illegally seems to be your stance as long as you benefit from it... Admirable... Like I said, slavery would be right up your alley... You sound like a fun guy.
Wolfgang Posted 12 minutes ago Posted 12 minutes ago Just now, The Frankish Reich said: You sound like a fun guy. You cannot imagine life without illegal alien exploitation... I prefer doing business with American citizens...
The Frankish Reich Posted 1 minute ago Posted 1 minute ago 10 minutes ago, Wolfgang said: You cannot imagine life without illegal alien exploitation... I prefer doing business with American citizens... I like how your trademark Citizenship Detector works.
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