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1 hour ago, sherpa said:

 

Are you serious?

This is what is in the Dem proposal.

I don't need to to provide anything more than what is is the Dem riders.

It's there, and you can deny reality forever.

Not my job.

 

If it were - you would be able to source it - but you can't - and that's why you are a loser.

 

Grindr Mike lies all the time - it's not my job to prove him wrong - especially when he is referring to a counter proposal that you should be able to reference.

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I know almost nobody here seems to care about the political process. But I'm gonna put my faith in @sherpa and @Homelander in this particular discussion.

 

Q. Why is this shutdown/continuing resolution different and more difficult to resolve?

A. Because no matter what Senate Republicans and Democrats agree to, Trump has decided that he has the power to unilaterally ignore the parts of any spending agreement that he doesn't like. And these are, of course, the Democratic priorities. So let's say Thune and Schumer agree to a partial restoration of Obamacare subsidies that does include some partial reimbursement to hospitals providing ER services to aliens in exchange for reopening the government at otherwise current spending levels. Then Trump decides to to send those reimbursements to the hospitals ("impoundment" in government nomenclature). The Anti-Impoundment Act says he can't do that; White House lawyers say that may not be enforceable as an improper restraint on presidential powers, and the Supreme Court seems ready to agree. So you cut a deal where each side gives up something in exchange for something else, but you're left with a totally one-sided deal. How can you bargain like this? It's like making a bet where one guy reserves the right to not pay up if he loses.

 

This was the Supreme Court's logic when they shot down the line item veto. A bill is the result of political compromise, and a president lining out the things his party doesn't like and keeping in the stuff they do totally destroys the bargaining process.

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