Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 is that why NE offered derrick mason more then BAL did? 262309[/snapback] And summarily cut Patten and Brown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_wag Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 And the expense of making the playoffs was overpaying replaceable players and being forced to tear the team apart not long after. But pretend it was somehow different or that teams like the Titans, Cowboys, Niners, Chargers, Fish, etc haven't suffered the same fate. 262289[/snapback] philly is a perfect example of a team that consistantly makes the playoffs, retains good young players, makes big additions, and maintains a healthy cap........it is not an unrealistic goal........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 philly is a perfect example of a team that consistantly makes the playoffs, retains good young players, makes big additions, and maintains a healthy cap........it is not an unrealistic goal........ 262326[/snapback] And yet they've won HOW MANY Super Bowls? remember, the goal is not to make the playoffs, but to win it all. And oh, BTW, had PW been an Eagle he'd have been gone from their team too. They will NOT tender an offer to players over 30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_wag Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 And yet they've won HOW MANY Super Bowls? remember, the goal is not to make the playoffs, but to win it all. And oh, BTW, had PW been an Eagle he'd have been gone from their team too. They will NOT tender an offer to players over 30. 262334[/snapback] but they would have his backup tied up long-term with a cap friendly deal........something we don't have with edwards......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 but they would have his backup tied up long-term with a cap friendly deal........something we don't have with edwards......... 262338[/snapback] WHAT?!?! Edawrds is here for AT LEAST two more seasons. He's locked up through the END of 2006. Get the facts straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_wag Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 WHAT?!?! Edawrds is here for AT LEAST two more seasons. He's locked up through the END of 2006. Get the facts straight. 262340[/snapback] incorrect.......he's a UFA after 2005...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 the Colts will have to pay the piper in the near future just like the Titans did this year. 262133[/snapback] but along the way they're in the playoffs every year and in position to compete for a championship. that's a lot more than i can say about the bills. btw, i'm not one to say that donohoe is cheap. i do think he's got a problem when it comes to maintaining continuity, which requires paying slightly more than is necessary to keep your own guys. a team is a lot more fun to follow when you've got a long term core of players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 incorrect.......he's a UFA after 2005...... 262355[/snapback] link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 And yet they've won HOW MANY Super Bowls? remember, the goal is not to make the playoffs, but to win it all. And oh, BTW, had PW been an Eagle he'd have been gone from their team too. They will NOT tender an offer to players over 30. 262334[/snapback] as a fan of the bills - a team that hasn't made the playoffs this century - you might want to steer clear of this line of argument ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 as a fan of the bills - a team that hasn't made the playoffs this century - you might want to steer clear of this line of argument ... 262378[/snapback] What's the point of paying out the wazoo, only to lose in the first round of the playoffs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_wag Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 link 262377[/snapback] http://www.nflpa.org/Media/playerProfile.asp?ID=30145 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 http://www.nflpa.org/Media/playerProfile.asp?ID=30145 262409[/snapback] So even if he's done after this year, that gives TD a year to get his contract done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_wag Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 So even if he's done after this year, that gives TD a year to get his contract done. 262444[/snapback] nice apology..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 nice apology..... 262456[/snapback] Apologize for what? I never said you were lying. I just asked for a link for my own edification. Now, what makes you think TD can't get RE done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_wag Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 Apologize for what? I never said you were lying. I just asked for a link for my own edification. Now, what makes you think TD can't get RE done? 262460[/snapback] "Get the facts straight." it was you who didn't have his facts straight.........throwing around your opinion on pat williams and discounting everyone who doesn't agree without even knowing the situation his backup is in........you should at least be informed before spouting off against others......... i never said "td can't get RE done".......but he should be working on an extension now and hammering it all summer until he gets one worked out..........history shows that is not is style and that RE can expect a lowball offer in early summer followed by no talks right up to his UFA date........that is how he did it with jennings, and according to the masses that is how you are supposed to do it, so why wouldn't he repeat that style? he may get a deal done, but i don't expect he will and i expect TSW to cast edwards as "greedy" why taking no shots at TD for not being aggressive enough with him.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 i never said "td can't get RE done".......but he should be working on an extension now and hammering it all summer until he gets one worked out..........history shows that is not is style and that RE can expect a lowball offer in early summer followed by no talks right up to his UFA date........that is how he did it with jennings, and that according to the masses that is how you are supposed to do it, so why wouldn't he repeat that style? 262478[/snapback] Maybe that's what he's doing right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_wag Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 Maybe that's what he's doing right now. 262480[/snapback] right, and maybe the agents for JJ, PW, and MP are all lieing as well......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 i never said "td can't get RE done".......but he should be working on an extension now and hammering it all summer until he gets one worked out262478[/snapback] I disagree. RE has shown improvement, and did make some nice plays last year, but he has not yet proven that he is the answer there. In fact, when all is said & done, Tim Anderson or someone else may end up being the starter. PAY FOR PERFORMANCE, NOT POTENTIAL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_wag Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 I disagree. RE has shown improvement, and did make some nice plays last year, but he has not yet proven that he is the answer there. In fact, when all is said & done, Tim Anderson or someone else may end up being the starter. PAY FOR PERFORMANCE, NOT POTENTIAL! 262486[/snapback] and as a result, watch players "over-value" themselves and price there way out of buffalo......... a good GM is ahead of the curve and identifies players who will exceed expectations........he then locks them in at reasonable deals and does not let them get to free agency......if you wait, and he if lives up to your expectations, he's as good as gone.........see winfield and jennings as examples........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 right, and maybe the agents for JJ, PW, and MP are all lieing as well......... 262483[/snapback] JJ stated he wanted out. Now he is. PW had an offer made to him that ws REASONABLE for someone of his age and position a year ago and turned it down. See ya. Mike Pucillo? Are you fugging kidding me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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