tbonehawaii Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 I'm confused. I know that Henry has to go but why is there excitement over this trade for Shelton. If he lost his starting job in AZ why would we want him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailog80 Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 Do you have an apple shoved into your mouth yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UHSLA Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 It's a strange phenomenon around here really. Many people get hyped off of bringing in players who have been released, hurt, demoted, etc. I've never really understood that either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 It's a strange phenomenon around here really. Many people get hyped off of bringing in players who have been released, hurt, demoted, etc. I've never really understood that either. 246732[/snapback] Well, this particular guy has gone and visited the Bills and indicated some interest in the team, Henry and Arizona are interested in each other, and we have an O-line coach who has made the careers of a lot of great players. This is not some "how's about we trade our 4th rounder for Brady" pipe dream. It's founded in reality and might get us our tackle of the future at a nice rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soljc Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 I'm not terribly familiar with Shelton, but the guy was a former #1 pick, and he's got a very manageable salary. Perhaps he's not a stud, but several teams seem to be interested, and I gotta figure Bills have done their homework and believe he can be a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffal0 Bill5 Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 , and we have an O-line coach who has made the careers of a lot of great players. 246805[/snapback] Including several Bills castoffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JStranger76 Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 He didn't really lose his job and if you don't think this would be a good move you are sadly mistaken. He is around the same level as Jennings. A little better at run blocking and a little worse in pass protection. He may need a little help with some speed rushers but is good enough in that area. It would be wise to bring in a proven player........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obie_wan Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 He didn't really lose his job and if you don't think this would be a good move you are sadly mistaken. He is around the same level as Jennings. A little better at run blocking and a little worse in pass protection. He may need a little help with some speed rushers but is good enough in that area. It would be wise to bring in a proven player........ 246824[/snapback] the grass is not always with someone else's free agent rejects. Shelton is not better than JJ, and MW will be a joke if moved to LT. He doesn't have the footwork to pass protect at RT, let alone at LT. Unless Walter Jones or Orlando Pace is brought in to replace JJ, then the Bills will be regressing at the most important position the OL. Funny how when Drew was the QB, the OL needed to be improved to Pro-Bowl. However, now that DRew is gone, any cheap free agent castoff will be acceptable at LT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake-Fat Sunny Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 Add to the many things said above that the Shelton situation is set apart from the usual fanatasy league trade bamter of TSW by: 1. Both Shelton and Henry were given permission by their teams to seek a trade. 2. Henry has expressed desire to play in warm weather (AZ warm enough for you) and Shelton is publicly in recprd saying he will play anywhere (the usual fear that folks will not come here is gone). 3. Both have cap friendly contracts and usually it is the cap which stops trades from happening. 4. Both players fill needs for us as Emmitt Smith's retirement leaves an RB opening in AZ and JJ being an FA creates a tackle need for us. 5. His cousin is on our team and unless they hate each other this gives us a valuable channel for talking with and potentially managing him. Even without Shelton visiting us there are more than enough reasons to discuss this and you add the visit and this is the real deal. Even if it doesn't happen. Shelton's visit really emhances our leverage: 1. With Henry in pushing up the bid from Miami or any other candidate. 2, With JJ for pushing him to accept a deal. 3. Or with MW since we likely have to negotiate a restructure with him. Those who do not want to take someone who lost a job elsewhere, take into account that Bills from Lawyer Milloy who lost his job in NE, to Jim Jeffcoat who lost his job in Dallas but accepted a back-up ro;e here. to Bryce Paup who could not break into the starting line-up in GB despite getting a few chances there are rejected players we have taken who were big contributors here. Shelton is great to talk about (as best as I can tell he lost his job to an LT judged to be a good enough player to get a top 10 OL salary and a failure to get along with Denny Green rather than simply not being a good enough player) and certainlu increases our leverage even if we never sign him and if JMac feels he can work with him I/m glad to have him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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