Gasjuggler Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Is the your team cap # figured with or without incentives in contract? If without, what happens if incentive that are met by players puts you over? I believe Cassels, Incognito and others on Bills have incentives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt in KC Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Is the your team cap # figured with or without incentives in contract? If without, what happens if incentive that are met by players puts you over? I believe Cassels, Incognito and others on Bills have incentives. Only the "likely to be met" incentives. The others are trued up against the following year's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gasjuggler Posted September 10, 2015 Author Share Posted September 10, 2015 Thanks,that makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 I could be wrong and/or out of date, but my understanding is that incentives are either classified as likely or unlikely to be achieved. "Likely" incentives count toward the cap right away, and if they're not hit, you get a cap credit the following year. "Unlikely" incentives don't count unless they're hit, and come off the following year's cap when they do, so they can't immediately put you over. If I recall correctly, there have been a few instances in the past where the NFL gave a team some pushback because the team was trying to classify incentives as unlikely that really weren't. I would assume that if it's close to 50/50, the incentive is supposed to be classified as likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt in KC Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 (edited) There is a whole layer of detail about what does and doesn't get considered I'm not sharp enough to detail with confidence. From my memory, an incentive that was previously met counts, and then anything within a close margin of that. For example, all playing time incentives would be "likely to be met" if the player played all games the previous season. Some more info here: https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/3icqh4/how_does_incentive_based_pay_affect_the_salary_cap/ In the case that there is a player who was injured the season before and the LTBE status can't be agreed upon due to not having a prior season baseline of performance then the determination goes to the CBA specified impartial arbitrator who makes the decision. Edited September 10, 2015 by Matt in KC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forward Progress Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 I'm just happy that we now have an owner that allows our team to spend the full cap space. We were well under the cap before the Pegula's took over. Outside of the cap, it feels like our owners are willing to pay a premium for our coaching staff too. FP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Wonder how much of Cassel's nearly $2million bonuses are considered "likely". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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