Johnny Hammersticks Posted November 16, 2010 Author Share Posted November 16, 2010 You can spend your time looking backwards or forwards. I see no point to this thread. The reality is what we have and where we are and judging the 2010 draft right now is folly. Thanks for the feedback....troll. This thread was created for entertainment purposes only. I was not attempting to judge the 2010 draft, as I very clearly stated in the OP. For me, it was an interesting idea to "re-visit" the draft based upon what we know now about the 2010 draft prospects. I though it might create some interesting discussion...sorry for having wasted your time. So, in the future, if you do not have anything constructive to add to the discussion....then move on to a different thread or create your own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 A wrinkle for you Winkle... some of these picks could have been had with trade downs, which means the Bills could've moved back in the draft and got even more bodies. Of course, Buddy Nix doesn't like trading draft picks, "Some of those guys I don’t know how they know where the hell they draft." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 Round 1: Bryan Bulaga OT Iowa -Besides getting abused by Cameron Wake in week 6, Bulaga's play has improved considerably in past weeks. He has earned much praise from around the league, and has solidified himself as the Packer's starting RT moving forward. He also has the versatility to play guard if the Bills decided to move Wood to Center. The thing to remember about Bulaga is that we could have drafted him AND received at least another 2nd round pick in return for trading the number 9. Is this speculation? I suppose so, but Philly sure did give up a lot to move up for Brandon Graham. Now, couple this with the fact that it took about 50 seconds for the Bills to go flying up to the podium and waste a #9 on Spiller, and you have a strong reason why this team is weak. The Bills were strong at running back, and imo McKelvin (another very shaky pick) is at least as good as Spiller at returning kickoffs. Going after a small part time running back was stupid, and quite suspect in terms of winning football games. When Ralph fired TD he said he was going to get "more involved." I know that I cringed, and things went down from then on. However, this year he is going to force them to draft a QB. I hope he decides on Mallett. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 When Ralph fired TD he said he was going to get "more involved." I know that I cringed, and things went down from then on. However, this year he is going to force them to draft a QB. I hope he decides on Mallett. Please don't advocate for Mallett. It would be a very damaging mistake for a franchise that can't afford more crippling mistakes with our high draft picks. The Bills probably are going to be drafting from the 1-5 range. Mallett is going to be ranked somewhere between 15-25. The Bills need to have the discipline to stick with its board. I'm not suggesting that he won't eventually be a good pro. But in my view he is not mobile and nimble enough to do well with our porous OL. As the college season concludes and the draft process advances you will see Mallett steadily slide down the board. Trust me on this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Please don't advocate for Mallett. It would be a very damaging mistake for a franchise that can't afford more crippling mistakes with our high draft picks. The Bills probably are going to be drafting from the 1-5 range. Mallett is going to be ranked somewhere between 15-25. The Bills need to have the discipline to stick with its board. I'm not suggesting that he won't eventually be a good pro. But in my view he is not mobile and nimble enough to do well with our porous OL. As the college season concludes and the draft process advances you will see Mallett steadily slide down the board. Trust me on this issue. Can you please stop posting this nonsense. Mallet is better than Bradford without the injuries. Mallet will shot to the top of most boards. Plus I didn't know the Bills made there draft rankings public. Why very specifically a QB with a 166 passer rating 3500 yards passing with 67%+ rating. With an arm like a cannon and elevated a program in the difficult SEC drop in the draft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPS Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it. Hollow quote. You can only repeat it if the same prospects are drafted again. Each year is a new series of guesses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Mallett is going to be ranked somewhere between 15-25. The Bills need to have the discipline to stick with its board. I'm not suggesting that he won't eventually be a good pro. But in my view he is not mobile and nimble enough to do well with our porous OL. As the college season concludes and the draft process advances you will see Mallett steadily slide down the board. Trust me on this issue. I am hoping that we can agree to disagree. While it is true that qbs sometimes drop in draft rankings (Leinart is a good example), I think that someone with the talent Mallett has will be far more likely to climb. Besides this, do you really think that Dallas will pass on him? As for playing well behind our OL, you raise a good point. I make the case that this is all but impossible for any QB. People will point to Fitz having good numbers, but the team is losing. Not only that, he takes horrible hits week after week, whereas finishing the season in one piece is all but certain. Many posters are excited because Bell no longer completely sucks but that isn't enough, and the situation at RT is deplorable. My point is that the OL will need to be seriously addressed under any conditions. The Bills need a ton of help at LB as well, and they used to be able to find players such as Covington in round 3, and Holocek in round 5. I think that Nix, if left alone, can find players who will help this team. Bills fans no longer have Levy/Jauron focusing primarily on the secondary and special teams. If Ralph will step back, our needs can be filled imo. He did however make statements about the QB position, so I would think he will go that way. Last year he spoke of "excitement" and we got Spiller. One thing for certain is that it's going to be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Can you please stop posting this nonsense. Mallet is better than Bradford without the injuries. Mallet will shot to the top of most boards. Plus I didn't know the Bills made there draft rankings public. Why very specifically a QB with a 166 passer rating 3500 yards passing with 67%+ rating. With an arm like a cannon and elevated a program in the difficult SEC drop in the draft? If you think that Mallett is better than Bradford, the first pick in last year's draft, then you and I have little in common to discuss. Mallett is not going to be at the top of any team's board. He won't be rated ahead of Luck on any team's board either. As the season advances and the scouting reports get more detailed you are going to find Mallett rated in the 15-25 range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 If you think that Mallett is better than Bradford, the first pick in last year's draft, then you and I have little in common to discuss. Mallett is not going to be at the top of any team's board. He won't be rated ahead of Luck on any team's board either. As the season advances and the scouting reports get more detailed you are going to find Mallett rated in the 15-25 range. Why? We're not agreeing or disagreeing you're stating an opinion based on what? I gave you very specific examples why Mallet will be ranked near the top. I never said Luck will be rated lower. Luck will still be #1. You're opinion is based on what, what specifically? "He'll drop because he'll drop is not answer it's nonsense." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 I am hoping that we can agree to disagree. While it is true that qbs sometimes drop in draft rankings (Leinart is a good example), I think that someone with the talent Mallett has will be far more likely to climb. Besides this, do you really think that Dallas will pass on him? Dallas will absolutely pass on Mallett. Don't get too impressed with the owner's connection to Arkansas. They have some critical needs on the OL and D-backfield to address first before looking for a replacement for Romo. As for playing well behind our OL, you raise a good point. I make the case that this is all but impossible for any QB. People will point to Fitz having good numbers, but the team is losing. Not only that, he takes horrible hits week after week, whereas finishing the season in one piece is all but certain. Many posters are excited because Bell no longer completely sucks but that isn't enough, and the situation at RT is deplorable. My point is that the OL will need to be seriously addressed under any conditions. The Bills have not had a quality line since the departure of the Kelly era. That is certainly a factor as to why the gangly Mallett would not be a good fit for the Bills. He would get pummelled. The Bills need a ton of help at LB as well, and they used to be able to find players such as Covington in round 3, and Holocek in round 5. I think that Nix, if left alone, can find players who will help this team. Bills fans no longer have Levy/Jauron focusing primarily on the secondary and special teams. If Ralph will step back, our needs can be filled imo. He did however make statements about the QB position, so I would think he will go that way. Last year he spoke of "excitement" and we got Spiller. One thing for certain is that it's going to be interesting. As you suggested the Bills have a lot of holes to fill before becoming a serious team. In the next draft the Pats have multiple picks in the first, second and third rounds. It is going to be a some time before they can close the gap with our divisional rival. Yes, it is going to be interesting. When your team isn't in playoff contention after the first few games you then focus more attention on the next draft. That's the way it has been for a lot of years for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumbalaya Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 And 10 years ago, if the Bills just woulda taken Tom Brady in the 6th instead of Leif Larsen... Hindsight like this will drive you crazy and it means absolutely nothing. We would have traded him for Bledsoe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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