VA Bills Fan Posted August 7, 2010 Share Posted August 7, 2010 Maybe I'm late to the party on this one, but it looks like CJ joined the Subway team, just like Reggie. http://tigernet.com/view/story.do?id=8704 Do you think he'll have a better rookie year? (see bills vs saints depth chart below) Reggie's rookie year rushing: G Att Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD Lng 1st 1st% 20+ 40+ FUM 16 155 9.7 565 3.6 35.3 6 18 27 17.4 0 0 2 Rookie year Receiving: G Rec Yds Avg Yds/G Lng TD 20+ 40+ 1st FUM 16 88 742 8.4 46.4 74 2 5 2 32 0 Rookie year punt returns: G Ret RetY Avg Lng TD 20+ 40+ FC FUM 16 28 216 7.7 65T 1 3 1 2 0 In 2005 the Saints were 3-13. In 2006 they hired Payton as new coach, and Bush was their first pick. Sounds a little familiar. They went 10-6 and won a playoff game. 2006 Saints depth chart vs. 2010 Bills Offense SAINTS WR Marques Colston vs Evans = toss up LT Jammal Brown vs Bell = Saints LG Jamar Nesbit vs Levitre = toss up (generous) C Jeff Faine vs Hangartner = Bills RG Jahri Evans vs Wood = Bills RT Jon Stinchcomb vs Green = Saints (unless Green stops jumping offsides) TE Ernie Conwell vs Nelson/Stupar = Bills WR Joe Horn vs ?? = Saints QB Drew Brees vs. Trent = Saints, only from what we now know - at Trent's current tenure, Drew looked the same. RB Deuce McAllister vs Freddie or Lynch = Bills (and it should be Lynch fyi ) FB Mike Karney vs Cory M = toss up (although Cory was the backup FB for the Saints in 2006) Defense (not apples to apples I know) LDE Charles Grant vs Stroud = Bills? NT Hollis Thomas vs Williams/Troup = generous toss up DT Brian Young vs Edwards = Saints RDE Will Smith vs Kelsay = Bills SLB Scott Fujita vs Davis = Saints MLB Mark Simoneau vs Poz = Bills (if healthy) WLB Scott Shanle vs Torbor/Maybin = tossup LCB Mike McKenzie vs McGee = Saints (sorry) SS Omar Stoutmire vs Whitner = Bills FS Josh Bullocks vs Bryd = Bills RCB Fred Thomas vs Florence/McKelvin = Bills Special Teams = Bills Coaching = 2006 was Paytons 1st gig as a head coach - so at the time, gotta go with the Bills. Wildcard = post Katrina emotions brought the team together, but no one on the Wall seems to take much stock in leadership or inspiration (see "Will Chan inspire like Marv?") Can we pull it together like the 2006 Saints??? Am I off on something on matchups or depth charts? GO BILLS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 7, 2010 Share Posted August 7, 2010 You forgot this: - Levi Brown went to Troy - Chan Gailey won a national championship at Troy - Chan + Levi in Buffalo = SB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VA Bills Fan Posted August 7, 2010 Author Share Posted August 7, 2010 OK having 2nd thoughts about coaching match up - Payton at least was there for a few years before becoming HC, and they weren't doing as much of an overhaul. Also, strength of schedule is about a toss up: 2006 Saints = opponents had 2005 winning record of .539 (T2), 5 games vs. 2005 playoff teams 2010 Bills = .500 (T16th), 8 games vs. 2009 playoff teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Fong Posted August 7, 2010 Share Posted August 7, 2010 You put way too much effort into this. It comes down to the fact that the Bills just have to start winning football games one way or another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omar Little Posted August 7, 2010 Share Posted August 7, 2010 QB Drew Brees vs. Trent = Saints, only from what we now know - at Trent's current tenure, Drew looked the same. Untrue. Brees put up back-to-back excellent seasons before joining the Saints. He was a proven commodity who fell into their laps. The Bills didn't bother going after him, though, because they had the great JP Losman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stampede Posted August 7, 2010 Share Posted August 7, 2010 You forgot this: - Levi Brown went to Troy - Chan Gailey won a national championship at Troy - Chan + Levi in Buffalo = SB solid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FitzShowUsYourTitz Posted August 7, 2010 Share Posted August 7, 2010 um, puff puff pass. Have a few more hits and we'll be the team of the decade. Not only can't I wait for the superbowl, but it will be nice to see the Trent, Chan, Wood, Levitre, Spiller, Whitner, Byrd et all inducted into the Hall of Fame. Can you say 3-peat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cantankerous Posted August 7, 2010 Share Posted August 7, 2010 RDE Will Smith vs Kelsay = Bills LMAO! Yeah...right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wing Man Posted August 7, 2010 Share Posted August 7, 2010 As long as he stays healthy, C.J. should have a better year rushing. Passing is dependent on the QB and we don't appear to have any worth a dime, so he'll almost surely do worse. Kickoff returns were C.J.'s specialty at Clemson, but he did have 1 TD in 2009 returning punts. It'll depend greatly on Bruce DeHaven's ability to arrange blocking for him. That outlook is a lot better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills!Win! Posted August 7, 2010 Share Posted August 7, 2010 You forgot to mention that our punter is better than anyone they had in 2006... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VA Bills Fan Posted August 7, 2010 Author Share Posted August 7, 2010 LMAO! Yeah...right! my fault...that one goes to the Saints! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VA Bills Fan Posted August 7, 2010 Author Share Posted August 7, 2010 Untrue. Brees put up back-to-back excellent seasons before joining the Saints. He was a proven commodity who fell into their laps. The Bills didn't bother going after him, though, because they had the great JP Losman. True. Trent is entering his 4th season. Brees had 11 TDs and 15 INTs his 3rd year, with a passer rating of 67.5. Brees' breakthrough year(s) were 4 and 5. That's why I said based on his "tenure." I can only hope that Trent will match Drew's development, but I won't bet the house on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FightClub Posted August 8, 2010 Share Posted August 8, 2010 True. Trent is entering his 4th season. Brees had 11 TDs and 15 INTs his 3rd year, with a passer rating of 67.5. Brees' breakthrough year(s) were 4 and 5. That's why I said based on his "tenure." I can only hope that Trent will match Drew's development, but I won't bet the house on it. Come on, this doesn't wash. In his third year of starting, Brees had 27 TDs against only 7 INTs and over 3,000 yards. In his third year of starting, Trent Edwards got beat out by Ryan Fitzpatrick and earned the nickname Captain Checkdown. Bress might let Edwards carry his jock, but I think he'd have to interview first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VA Bills Fan Posted August 8, 2010 Author Share Posted August 8, 2010 Come on, this doesn't wash. In his third year of starting, Brees had 27 TDs against only 7 INTs and over 3,000 yards. In his third year of starting, Trent Edwards got beat out by Ryan Fitzpatrick and earned the nickname Captain Checkdown. Bress might let Edwards carry his jock, but I think he'd have to interview first. It's a stretch, no doubt. But Trent wasn't the starter to start his rookie year either. God why am I even talking about this, Brees is way better than Trent. I was just trying to hope we could resemble the 2006 Saints after I saw a Subway ad with CJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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