The Road not Taken!!!!!

[tonyjustbcuz]

You speak with passion and I respect that. But really do you know how to build a winning franchise if so you should be making millions to do so. Otherwise let the proffessionals build the team.

 

As far as this fans perspective, who says it has to be a first or second round QB that takes us to the promise land? We trade a first round pick t the Patriots for their former first round pick star and only sniffed the playoffs once in three years. He was repkaced on his old team by a 6th rd QB who has won 3 out of 4 superbowls.

 

Now Manning, Peyton that is, is a rarety he is a one man offensive machine well wortht he first rd pick has a consistent winning record but only 1-1 in the big game but he makes stars out of no names around him for the most part.

 

Now on to the Bills. I know we are all BAh Humbug about this team but look the season hasnt started. Gailey has a better record then anyone after wade phillips. Our team is not without talent. We hve 3 good/great RBS. One deep threat reciever, potentially a second good reciever in Johnson. possibly a diamond or two in the rough recivers.

Its the OL everyone complais about but Levitre Hangartner and Wood are a solid three if healthy whichmeans the Rt/LT battle someone needs to step and do a good Job, Your no name rant is a moot point here becuase Jason Petteres was an UNDRAFTED TE who stepped up to RT then over to LT so it is possible that a valuedreplacement is already here. I believe as much as the coaching staff believes that one of the three QBS are going to get the job done and personally I think it will be Brohm who gets the keys.( who by the way was a second round pick just saying) The defense was retooled on the line and more deth at LB and a pretty good secondary.

 

So what am I saying look at what an incompetent coach did with this team 7-9 I think chan this season gives us +2 becuase he knows QBS and offensive game planning that is 9-7 yeah probably not the playoffs but a couple of good bounces and maybe we slide in. Other then that we are ready to make the playoffs next footabll season.

 

Give the team a chance to play a regular season game before you say they suck.

 

 

Isn't Iit convienient to put words in someone's mouth that they didn't even say...Never said they suck....Ever! They are a 5-11 team + or - 1 win period! I surely think I could've done a better job than the Bills have in the past 10 years! I probably should be making millions as u mentioned, obviously the Bills have squandered millions over the past decade and have a worse record than 0-0 ! So the professionals have netted the Bills a sub-500 record and your satisfied with that! WeLL I am not and never will be....Many better moves could've been made...and I would've made them...I don't have time now...but I would've taken Orakapo last year over Maybin in a heartbeat...yeah there's many other but I have to feed a crying baby...I'll be back to mention some of the moves I would've made....I will!

[tonyjustbcuz]

You speak with passion and I respect that. But really do you know how to build a winning franchise if so you should be making millions to do so. Otherwise let the proffessionals build the team.

 

As far as this fans perspective, who says it has to be a first or second round QB that takes us to the promise land? We trade a first round pick t the Patriots for their former first round pick star and only sniffed the playoffs once in three years. He was repkaced on his old team by a 6th rd QB who has won 3 out of 4 superbowls.

 

Now Manning, Peyton that is, is a rarety he is a one man offensive machine well wortht he first rd pick has a consistent winning record but only 1-1 in the big game but he makes stars out of no names around him for the most part.

 

Now on to the Bills. I know we are all BAh Humbug about this team but look the season hasnt started. Gailey has a better record then anyone after wade phillips. Our team is not without talent. We hve 3 good/great RBS. One deep threat reciever, potentially a second good reciever in Johnson. possibly a diamond or two in the rough recivers.

Its the OL everyone complais about but Levitre Hangartner and Wood are a solid three if healthy whichmeans the Rt/LT battle someone needs to step and do a good Job, Your no name rant is a moot point here becuase Jason Petteres was an UNDRAFTED TE who stepped up to RT then over to LT so it is possible that a valuedreplacement is already here. I believe as much as the coaching staff believes that one of the three QBS are going to get the job done and personally I think it will be Brohm who gets the keys.( who by the way was a second round pick just saying) The defense was retooled on the line and more deth at LB and a pretty good secondary.

 

So what am I saying look at what an incompetent coach did with this team 7-9 I think chan this season gives us +2 becuase he knows QBS and offensive game planning that is 9-7 yeah probably not the playoffs but a couple of good bounces and maybe we slide in. Other then that we are ready to make the playoffs next footabll season.

 

Give the team a chance to play a regular season game before you say they suck.

 

 

Isn't Iit convienient to put words in someone's mouth that they didn't even say...Never said they suck....Ever! They are a 5-11 team + or - 1 win period! I surely think I could've done a better job than the Bills have in the past 10 years! I probably should be making millions as u mentioned, obviously the Bills have squandered millions over the past decade and have a worse record than 0-0 ! So the professionals have netted the Bills a sub-500 record and your satisfied with that! WeLL I am not and never will be....Many better moves could've been made...and I would've made them...I don't have time now...but I would've taken Orakapo last year over Maybin in a heartbeat...yeah there's many other but I have to feed a crying baby...I'll be back to mention some of the moves I would've made....I will!

[BobDVA]

I am sorry, but we do not know you, or ever heard of you, so you must suck.

 

Therefore, I did not bother to read what you wrote.

[oak tree 12]

Isn't it ironic that we by passed Colt McCoy deep in the draft, but we take some unknown, inexperienced RB that Indy discarded named Colt Simpson. "No offense O.J.".....

 

Wasn't there a free agent offensive tackle available not too long ago....Levi Jones or something like that? So instead

we draft a small time QB in the 7th round Levi Brown..."No offense Jim"....

 

Then didn't we just pick up a RB named Mendenhall? Well, yeah I know we did...but isn't the other one the one that

matters? We picked up another unknown!

 

I also know we picked up some hall of famers! Well actually their college players that went undrafted, but the Bills have

high hopes for some of them. At least their optimistic! Yeah, but the names sure are iconic football names from the past:

 

 

Destin Harris...."Darn not Franco"

Sean Allen...... Drats not Marcus

Antonio Coleman...Well not Monte

Bell, Jones, Johnson (at least he's not Rob)...

 

So after this big splash in free agency and the draft what are your feelings on how much we improved, regressed, or stayed the same????

 

To me, I like as Robert Frost put it "The Road not taken", but I like that road better than the road we took !!! It's also so ironic that the best player that this franchise has selected in the past five years is at a position that we didn't really need

to improve on in contrast to severe needs at QB and OLT.

 

Just remember, praise their selections if you want..but mark my work when we struggle this year...we're all going to say..boy they lost some close games...if we just had a better QB and better blocking for the QB we would've won 8 or 9 games at least.

 

Unfortunately, the sad reality is that when it's all said and done and everyone has spoken their piece...and Donte predicts the playoffs again, and Chan Gailey talks about turning it around like the Dolphins and Jets did...We're still going to be

5 wins and 11 losses until we ADDRESS OUR NEEDS with big boy college players that played against top competition. This little tweener team of little guys from little colleges that can play more than one position including special teams like Spiller..is not what I want my team to be like....You don't see Pittsburgh or Baltimore get manhandled, and you see that quality teams like N.ENG and Indy have the skill positon guys which you need...The Brady's, Moss's, etc....Who do we really have at WR for sure besides Lee Evans?????? Parrish?? yeah right, Hardy? Hardly....Easley? It won't be Easy for the rook! Stevie (I wonder) Johnson? Not so far? Who??? Maybe, we should get the old but better than anything we have on our roster Marvin Harrison if he's not back with Indy!

 

Core players?? Pozluzny...no Pozinjury is out more than in! Schoebel? Just sold his house! Sounds like that ship has sailed!

Byrd (break...smile..2 more years GONE!) to highest bidder! u say no???? Hmmmm...Pat Williams, Nate Clements, Antwoine Winfield, Sam Cowhart, Jabari Greer, that Leonhart guy whose quite good!....etc....

 

It starts at the top..and as long as they hire coaches and staff on the cheap and avoid QB's in the first two rounds...they won't ever make it back to the playoffs! I see people predicting great things...that they are building towards..but it's all a

facade. Even when they bring a player along like Peters, they repeatedly have shown that they are not willing to pay what it takes to keep him. That is a fact and history continually repeats itself. The top teams keep most of their superstars..Indy will retire a Colt and Brady will spend several years on the Patriots unless he gets plagued by injuries. Good teams keep their stars, the Bills like the Bisons is a good place to watch some young players develop and if they become a desirable

player move on to a "real" NFL Franchise!!!! I hate to say all this, but it's the way it is and I'm a diehard supporter of da

Bills regardless of the product they put on the field every year. But, I'm not going to call a pile of sh*t a pile of Gold !!!!!

 

man you need Valium. another guy who thinks he knows better than Nix and modrak who have been in this business for thirty years.

 

by the way the tackle you are talking about from last year is a beat up finished has been. is the whole NFL also not as intelligent as you seeing that nobody else wanted him either.

 

i love what the bills are doing this year we finally have football people in charge of rebuilding this team again for the first time since Bill Polian and your not happy and you have the audacity to question them and thinking you know better when you dont even know the players names you are bitc-ing about.

 

get real man and at least give these guys a few months and view the final product of this years team before trying to criticize Nix and company.

[thebandit27]

First of all, I would have felt better if Gailey cut Edwards and Fitz the day before the annual meat market in Indy started, which was the day Gailey promised he would have been finished watching all the film of those two idiots, and would make his "decision." Secondly, out of those three guys you mention above, I would have loved to see Nix sign any two of them, or even Pennington himself plus one of the three above, since Chad was also a free agent until he finally decided to stay in Miami. Culpepper was in Indianapolis acting as his own agent and he even told the media he would love to help re-build Buffalo. I really don't care if these guys don't have much left, at least all of them have had success in the NFL and still have enough experience to help a young team grow up! Edwards and Fitzpatrick are what they are, bad back up options in the NFL. Nothing more, nothing less. Like I said, I hope Brohm ends up beating them out.

 

I understand your mindset.

 

I happen to think that Gailey's decision after reviewing film on the current QBs was to move forward with what's on the roster and see what the current crop can do in their system (most likely with Brohm, as he's the one guy that would justify such a decision). It's not as though he didn't make a decision, they just decided that bringing in a late-round young guy was a better investment than an early-round pick given their current team makeup.

 

Also, I don't know that signing Pennington--a guy that currently is listed as the No. 3 QB on Miami's depth chart--would make a huge difference on this team. Isn't it better to let a younger guy (i.e. Brohm or Brown) play with a younger team and let them come of age together?

 

I'm not saying that I think any of the QBs on the roster are the answer, but I do understand the approach that Nix and Gailey are taking.

[SuperKillerRobots]

Well with our well water we already add bleach prior to the system that we have that purifies our water...and our water is cleaner and more pure than municipal water or bottled water so I'm not as dillusional as you must be drinking your tainted water. 2011 Season you will get your wish more than likely as there probably won't be a season. Other than that what I stated is just the sad realities of the Bills. I am just a realist that won't put the blinders on just because I love the Bills.

It is what it is! Until there is a change in philosophy beginning with ownership we will likely remain a bottom 10 team! If you feel differently, good for you..eternal optimism is a good quality even when the situation dictates the opposite emotion.

 

No one cares about your (2tsps/gal) bleachwater.

 

I always find it interesting that people stake the claim that the philosophy change needs to come from ownership on down. I understand that a lot of people do this as a way to relate the rest of corporate America with an NFL team because let's face it, it's easier to fit everything into a matrix than it is to come up with a new model to use to understand something. I really don't think that ownership has to change it's philosophy (I assume you're advocating an ownership change) in order for this team to succeed. Don't you just need a new football guy to change the philosophy? I get the sentiment that "it all starts at the top", but isn't there a top to one portion of the organization and a top to the organization as a whole? Is Ralph really calling the players individually to set the tone? Is he cutting people himself?

 

I feel like the change from no GM to having a GM was a big philosophical change. For what it's worth I think what Gailey has been saying and doing thus far is a huge departure in philosophy from anything either of the last two headcoaches did.

[SuperKillerRobots]

ok then,i'll buy the "on further review" argument for nix but he and gailey were truly out of left field..at least as far as speculation on this board (i certainly anticipate a response to this statement) or even the major sports outlets are concerned. why do the bills so often have to look for the diamond in the rough and ignore conventional wisdom? statistically the herd is often right and if you don't buy into herd mentality then why not at least choose aggression over passivity. even cleveland was able to make some big (and yes speculative) deals. when you're on the bottom, gambling may be your best option. the status quo hasn't worked here. where's the wheelin, dealin bold moves? it would be nice if the bills would once go "all in" but this offseason is the antithesis of that. what's the worst that could happen, 0-16? many here have guessed a 4-5 win season as it is...why not bet the house on 4 games? and yeah, it aint my money but i'm not 92 with no trophy, staring the grim reaper in the face.

 

Starting at the bottom and going up, Ralph will live for another 20 years - rich people don't die.

 

I actually seem to remember someone ont his board posting that Nix might be the hire in November of last year, but that doesn't really matter one way or another because you are right that few people saw this coming or even saw it as a possibility. The point is that it doesn't matter what the fans and media think about the hire coming out of left field, but I'd be more interested to hear about what other teams thought about it. How high would he have been on the list for another team's GM spot? On top of that, I think you could argue that the hiring of Whaley as Assistant GM as a very "conventional wisdom" move. I think if you looked at GM/headcoach restuctures across the NFL historically, you'd see that in many cases one or both of the guys were not on anyone's radar going into the process. We, as primarily Bills fans, don't have the perspective to readily see that however.