PastaJoe
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Soul Train, huh? You white liberals get pretty testy when black people don't march to your tune.
Sorry I'm not as PC as you'd like, perhaps you'd prefer I said American Idol to include the youngsters.
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And I love the Hillarites turning on their own. They sure were big Olbertard fans for most of the past 8 years.
I liked him as a sports reporter, but he's as looney as O'Reilly as a political commentator. He doesn't even pretend to be objective anymore since he jumped on the Soul Train.
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Why don't the censors know about this underground subculture dictionary stuff? What if my 9 year old daughter had seen that poster?
Your daughter belongs to a school lesbian club?
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The most interesting analyses I heard last night was the comparison of speeches:
1) Hillary - me me me
2) McCain - Obama sucks
3) Obama - making America and the world a better place
Gee I wonder why Obama won the nomination
The way I heard it was more like:
1) Hillary - I'll keep fighting for you
2) McCain - When's the Bingo game start?
3) Obama - Hillary has some great ideas and we should embrace them
Of course the media like Keith Olbermann were humping the TV monitors when Obama was speaking.
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I see the lib talking heads are already trying the McCain=Bush line of BS.
You can't deny that McCain agrees with Bush on the majority of policy issues, especially Iraq and the economy. He might have some tactical differences, but in general has the same strategic view.
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Hillary ended the primary season with another strong win in South Dakota, and worked hard to get the most popular votes in primary history. I'm glad that she gave a strong speech last night that reemphasized why so many people believe she's the best candidate for the Democrats. But it appears that the party leaders are going to side with the media and go with the new kid on the block. If the numbers don't change, hopefully the presumptive nominee will do the smart thing and include Hillary on the ticket. You can't make change unless you have the job, and having both on the ticket is the best path to victory.
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No. No. That's not true. That's impossible!
"Barack, I am your father. Come to the dark side. Wait, wait, that didn't come out right."
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Noticed that nobody recommended Hydroseeding. Is it that expensive, or doesn't work well in WNY, or something else? I'm guessing it costs more than sod, but not sure. I live in New England and seems like a lot of the new homes and pro landscapers use it. Just asking...
Hydroseeding is just seeds mixed in with pulpy material and water to hold it in place. First you mix the pulp mix and water, then throw in a bag of seed, and spray it out. The advantage is it's quicker if you're doing alot of lawns. But you still should have a good base of topsoil to spray it on. Don't know if you can rent one, our's fit in the bed of a pickup. Call a landscaper and get an estimate and see if it's worth having someone else do the work. But you can achieve the same result on a small lawn with a hand spreader.
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You just know that Bill has some mutant lying wizard son in a pantsuit borne out of wedlock and out of date rape somewhere. Perhaps in his 40s. Probably a state senator somewhere.
Maybe he had a fling with a Kenyan woman, and the baby was raised by a woman from Kansas. The truth is out, Obama is Clinton's son!
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If Hillary won, wouldn't you expect the vast majority of Obama voters to side with her?
I'm really not criticizing you here for your feelings. I think I understand it. It's not too unlike a long Bills season where they lost in the Super Bowl in a hard fought close game like the Giants. People need some time, perhaps a lot, to decompress.
I just feel like once everything sinks in... the campaigns go through the general election cycle... the debates happen... and November nears... the vast majority of the bitterness will be overcome with a desire to have 90% of Hillary's policies and perspective in the White House instead of John McCain's.
I don't feel like you're obligated to vote for Obama, obviously, I just think that most of the people in the exit polls that said they wouldn't vote for the other candidate were saying that in the heat of battle. Many truly felt it. Many were just telling that to the questioners because if they didn't it would look worse for their candidate (on both sides, that wasn't a Hillary voter comment at all). These voters, IMO, will likely feel a little differently a week from now, then a month from now, and by the election will see a clear, less emotional choice between McCain and Obama.
This is another major reason why I think the general election polls are off quite a bit right about now.
To echo your analogy, right now I feel like Norwood just missed the kick and some Giant fans are waving "We're #1" fingers in my face. So ask me again in a week.
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So if he doesn't choose Hillary - would you vote for McCain? If so, I find that to be kind of sad.
As I've said before, I can't vote for McCain because of his policies. Maybe the McCain of 2000, but not his 2008 version. The question is whether I'll vote for Obama.
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You should be on that detective show "Numbers".
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I worked for a landscaper doing this sort of work. First we used a sodcutter to remove the old lawn in the fall. Rototilling will just bury the bad grass and weeds, you won't get them all, and eventually they'll grow through. Then put down a couple inches of topsoil. Use the wide landscaper rake and crosshatch to show any high/low spots that need to be leveled. Then either sod, which is much more expensive but gives you instant lawn (when matching sides, pull both up a bit and then pat down so one edge don't overlap the other), or grass seed and fertilizer. Important thing is to keep it watered, best way is to get sprinklers to cover the entire area and put them on a timer. Then in the spring you'll have to touch up any areas that didn't grow properly (spots too dry or wet).
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Ok, so each candidate hits a certain demographic better than the other. I do not believe that she is best candidate simply because she can pull some white workers. However, she is (obviously) pretty damn tough. Believe me the Labor community will be behind the democratic nominee. Especially when GM is now stating that they are closing even more plants. Things need to change. In regards to the superdelegates, I would expect Obama to upwards 340 or slightly more by the close of polls tonight.
I do agree with you about making it easier on her supporters if she was part of the ticket. Good or bad she is such a polarizing political figure. Bad thing for her is that there are other possible female candidates for VP, as well as others that would entice the white workers.
I am glad to know that you are going to back Obama if she concedes. We (Dems) need to get this thing moving towards the goal in November.
I believe the blue collar workers she gets are more likely to cross over to McCain than the black voters than he gets, so they are the key demographic. And I've seen stats that show he would lose more voters to McCain than the number of Obama supporters who would sit home if it's her, since Obama supporters are more liberal. But we can agree to disagree.
I didn't say I'd back Obama if she concedes, I said if she concedes AND she's part of the ticket. For him to choose another women, when there clearly isn't another as qualified except Diane Feinstein, would be a big disrespect.
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So pasta, let me as you this. Even though Obama leads in all phases except popular vote (I'm giving you that one), you feel as though Hillary should take this to the convention and fight it out, drag it out? More less waste more time?
Does all phases include who does better with blue collar workers, and whose won the important swing states, and the Hispanic vote throughout the campaign? I don't think it's a waste of time to try to have the best candidate as the nominee, which I believe she clearly is. But obviously she's closer to the possiblities of convincing superdelegates to support her at the convention than I am, so I will defer and support whatever decision she makes. It would make it much easier for her supporters to concede and back Obama if she was part of the ticket. If he doesn't make the offer, then it becomes difficult.
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Any estimates as to how many Clinton votes came from republicans in states where they were allowed to cast ballots in democratic primaries?
You'll have to ask an Obama supporter, they're the ones who don't use actual votes to determine the winner, but look at exit polls for perceived intent to determine how many votes someone should be given, ala Michigan.
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Sure, she's not officially trying to change the rule. Just her argument for why superdelegates should align themselves with her, and her latest ad campaigns have unofficially changed the rule.
WTF? How do you unofficially change the rule? What rule? You're really reaching now.
By the way, the pledged delegates from the actually voting can change their vote, too, should Hillary see if she can change their minds, too?You said it, it's part of the rules, she isn't trying to change that rule. But usually these people are strong supporters, and therefore she should concentrate on superdelegates first.
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The rule that says votes count in primaries where the people who actually make the rules say the votes don't count.
She hasn't tried to change that rule; votes determined how many pledged delegates the candidates got (except for Michigan, where exit polls count more than votes, and caucuses). But there's no debate that delegates are what count at the convention. Until they vote at the convention, superdelegates choose the criteria they want to decide how to vote. It could be popular votes, or it could be whose stronger in swing states, or who sends them a Christmas card. It's up to them. And it's up to the candidates to convince the superdelegates. No rule change there.
Try again.
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More like: "Coach, we're losing by two touchdowns late in the 4th quarter. I know we can call the Commissioner and ask him to extend the game to 5 quarters and also get him to change the rules so that FGs count for 6 points each. Plus, you never know....the Blimp may crash into our opponents' sidelines and kill everyone!!!"
Please state specifically what rule she is trying to change. She's not asking that the person who gets the required number of delegates to vote for them at the convention not be given the nomination. She's just trying to get the superdelegates, who are not bound by any criteria to decide who to support, to vote for her, which is within the rules, so she can reach the required number when they vote at the convention and decide who the nominee will be.
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not counting caucuses, so still fuzzy math
Even if you include the caucuses, more people have voted for Hillary than Obama; 17,873,000 to 17,703,000.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/02/dem...race/index.html
Fuzzy math is assuming all the people who voted uncommitted were voting for Obama. You can say they didn't vote for Clinton, but you can't say who they did vote for.
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The clearest sign yet that Hillary's campaign is done is that you've gone from phantasmagorically blind support of her to phantasmagorically blind excuse-making for her.
Christ, you're like a political vending machine. Pop in a quarter, and out comes a statement of Clinton support. Or a friggin' juke box that will only play Journey's "Don't Stop Believin'".
What excuse, I replied to a statement that I agreed her campaign made mistakes early on. That's a fact, not an excuse.
I'd hate to have you as a player on my team with your losing attitude. "Coach, we're losing by a few points in the 4th quarter. I know more fans are for us than the other team, but why don't we just give up and go get a Happy Meal."
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When used please refer to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KACQuZVAE3s
That's not obnoxious, that's angry. Angry at a party that disregards the popular vote and disrespects the candidate. Obnoxious is telling someone who is still in contention to quit prematurely because they're not their preferred choice.
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Oh my lord where are you getting such strong kool-aid? He knew he was going to lose and pulled out before it could happen? Wow, that makes sense. With that school of thought, he should never jumped in the Presidential race because Hillary had 20-point leads all across the country. Shouldn't he have just skipped 90% of the primaries and caucuses? And Point of fact is that Hillary signed upon the same agreement regarding Florida and Michigan... the ONLY reason it became a big deal to her is because she is and was losing. Only reason.
Just face it, her campaign royally screwed up. They believed that they would have this won by Super Tuesday. They didn't. Then they were instantly behind the eight-ball in organizing advance crews for each upcoming primary and for raising money. The other HUGE blunder was that because they expected to win - they did not care as much about the caucus states. That in itself killed her chances.
Regarding popular vote, as I posted earlier - that is completely debatable. Sounds like a bushism - fuzzy math.
There's no other reasonable explaination of why Obama took his name out of Michigan other than fear of a bad showing that would have minimized him, and pandering to Iowa and NH. Hillary did sign the same agreement (not to campaign). Again, it's a fact that removing their name was not part of the agreement. That was an individual decision.
No doubt the campaign has made some strategic mistakes; not organizing in states that will go Republican in November and missing the chance to get the delegate votes to match her lead in popular votes to make the choice clearer for superdelegates were mistakes. But they righted the ship in the past three months, and clearly her message and candidacy is the preferred in the swing states a Democrat needs to win. She has had the momentum while his campaign has been losing altitude like a week old party balloon. Superdelegates need to recognize that if they want to vote with their heads.
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So PJ-Are you really going to vote for McCain now?
I can't vote for McCain because I disagree with his proposed policies. The question is whether I will vote for Obama if he's the nominee. Sometimes I think I'd vote for him, but then I get turned off due to his obnoxious supporters. Maybe it's time to look at a 3rd party candidate, or a write-in vote for Clinton.
Sign the petition - Hillary for VP
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Join the petition to include Hillary on the ticket (assuming Obama remains the choice of superdelegates):
http://womenforfairpolitics.com/post/2008/...ny-J-Davis.aspx
Petition to:
Senator Barack Obama
Dear Senator Obama,
We write you because we believe it is very important for the Democrats to win back the presidency in 2008. To do so, we must field the strongest possible ticket for the Democratic Party. We believe the 2008 election could be close. And your selection of a vice presidential candidate may make the difference between victory and defeat.
We write to urge you to select Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton to be your choice for vice president because we believe that she would be, by far, the most qualified and strongest candidate to be your running mate.
Both you and Senator Clinton during this campaign have demonstrated strengths in different segments of the electorate and in different parts of the country. Together, you stand the best chance of making U.S. history not once but twice -- the first African American president and the first female vice president since the founding of our great nation.
We know this is ultimately your decision on who is to be your running mate. But with the greatest respect, we ask you to select Senator Clinton in recognition of the more than 17 million Democrats who supported her at the polls and who, in combination with your more than 17 million supporters, would form the base of a successful presidential campaign in the November election.
Sincerely,
"Hillary for VP '08 Committee"
Lanny J. Davis
Washington, D.C.