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Or Courtney Anderson, Robert Royal, Matt Murphy, Teyo Johnson and 164 Passing Yards Per Game and 15.8 Points Per Game
Because those guys were solid in Oakland, and the latter in Atlanta and Oakland. So where's the pixie dust for us to sprinkle on these guys to make them "good."
They've taken 6 defensive backs in the first four rounds since 2006. If their secondary depth stinks, its their own fault for drafting poorly.Absolutely. DJ's probably asking how they can play more 5 or 6 CB type defenses.
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Yes, maybe they'll play 8 CB defense this season.
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Does anyone doubt the Jauron influence now?
Why have a GM/COO whatever when you've got DJ making picks?
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6 DB's in 2+ drafts...and we have no depth on the OL...yes why not take a CB!
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Thanks Dick. Why on earth?
And we wonder why this guy wins 43% of his games.
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DJ strikes again!!!!!
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character just went out the window
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Hard to believe the Bills are almost 22M beneath the cap. And fans around here are worried about a few million.
Amazing. Then again, that's par for the course.
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Nor do I, but this is the situation we are in. It really is sad to watch this history of idiocy repeat itself.
Several years ago, SDS declared that he was "more of a fan of Bills Fans than a fan of the Bills." That quote stayed with me, and I fully agree. Bills Fans in general are a great bunch of people who stay loyal to a team which is, and has been run by second rate football people for quite some time. And yes, this includes Levy, our 82 year old "consultant."
I seriously believe that being a Bills Fan makes one a stronger, and more loyal person. I see it in my daughters.
I will never give up hope that some day, our day will come. They can make every stupid move they can dredge up on draft day and it will sicken me, but I will never turn my back on this team as long as I am alive.
I hope our latest 1st round defensive back works for us. We deserve it. Keep your fingers crossed that we don't waste another 1st rounder on a db in 09. But.....don't bet on it.
I, like many on this board, thought of you yesterday Bill. Without having met you, I know you weren't thrilled.
I have a hard time standing idly by, having season tickets, and seeing the philosophy of this team so flawed. Having no GM, and worse, no plan for the future of the franchise (at least publicized) and a HC with a terrible career record can be daunting.
But alas, I will remain a Bills fan, because what else is there?
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Apparently, the Bills will be getting the ball at their opponent's 20 yard line this season to start drives. obie is correct, in that they didn't throw the ball into the endzone much anyway.
Regardless, Hardy had serious issues matching up against Jake Ikegwuono from Wisonsin and Vontae Davis if Illinois, two very good CB's.
Put simply, Hardy did not play well against better CB's, although he abused Justin King, who was not good this year and wasn't a first day pick.
12 of his 16 TD's came against Indiana State, Western Michigan, Akron, Minnesota, Ball State, Northwestern and King's Penn State.
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If we go TE I like Brad Cottam more than Martin Rucker and as far as DT's while Pat Sims had a great year at Auburn last year he has bust written all over him so I'd take Dre Moore, Red Bryant and Frank Okam in that order if we go DT.
I would not be disappointed if we picked up OLB Xavier Adibi, SS Reggie Smith or C Steve Justice if they are still on the board at that pick either.
I've got my fingers crossed for Cottam though.
Brad Cottam has had so many surgeries, it's hard to believe he'll be durable. Measureables are one thing, but his health is another.
He's challenging Mark Schlereth for total surgeries, and he hasn't made it to the NFL yet.
For my money, Kellen Davis is the best option at TE.
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Forget the high flying offense...Our team's success will be based on defense. With ALL the major pick ups being on the defensive side, and a most likely a defensive player in the draft, Buffalo will have a dominant D next year...Perhaps like the one we had in 1995
Forget thinking that any WR we draft this year will help us in 2008...I can see us getting a solid TE who will contribute and thats it.
This team's HC is defensive minded, almost to a fault. He exercised no control over the former OC who couldn't call plays for a Pop Warner team. DJ has immense say in who this team drafts, given that the COO isn't a personnel guy. Hopefully Modrak can remind Dick his offense was ranked near the bottom in almost every category save rushing.
It would not surprise me to see a CB in round 1, although with all the resources devoted to the defense in the off-season, it's hard to look at the offense and think that magically this team will improve.
I could accept a pass rusher, but a CB will be a disaster. Who's Trent going to throw to?
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Not Fitzgerald, Anquan Boldin.
Can't see it happening regardless. He wants a large contract, and it would jack up the price for Evans.
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So what does trading for Marcus Stroud say?
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It says that Larry Tripplett was a swing and a miss. Stroud is a different type of DT than Tripplett or K. Williams, both of whom were thrown out of the way on a regular basis. Stroud was also the Bills letting go of the smaller and quicker philosophy which hasn't exactly panned out. I don't think the comparison carries weight.
My take on obtaining Sheppard is that Buffalo allowed NC to go in FA, and now may (and I only mean potentially) be adding a top CB who will demand a long term deal worth many millions. Why couldn't the Bills have worked out something with NC after franchising him in Febraury 2006? I'm very sure a deal wouldn't have been in the neighborhood of what he got when FA began in March 2007 because we all know the price jumps when every team has a shot at a guy. That's as opposed to when one team has rights like Buffalo did when they franchised him. Or the Bills could have done what GB did with Corey Williams.
Besides, this defense doesn't need elite corners.
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Absolutely, but the issue is his contract, he wants megabucks. Can we or would we afford it? Ask the FO.
The Bills aren't big on handing out large contracts to CB's.
If they swing a trade for Sheppard, what does that say about the fiasco surrounding NC two years ago?
Essentially, if Buffalo makes this trade, it means they prefer players from other systems over their own drafted players.
Remember, minus Marv, this is the same front office that potentially would make this deal that said no to NC.
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That you Orenthal?
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So a guy goes and studies the top 2 rounds of the last seven drafts for SB teams, declares his findings, and it's disputed?
Arguing with Raimus is like yelling at what Raimus rhymes with...you'll never get anywhere. It's like trying to tell a blind man what Niagara Falls looks like.
Amazingly, people still don't understand that the game is won in the trenches and with QB's. Go figure, Losman wasn't good, the OL had guys like Villarrial, Gandy, and Fowler starting one season. The DT's were sub 300 pounders pushed out of the way like a bully taking candy from a kindergartner. No playoffs? Makes plenty of sense.
Good teams draft DL, as a matter of fact. Not surprisingly, the Bills starting front four this coming season were all originally drafted in either rounds 1 or 2! And we wonder if DL isn't important!
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I like Pyrite Gal, one of the only posters on this board who puts thought and effort into their posts.
The reason why I said Pyrite Gal and not Bill, is because, while both don't advocate picking a corner high, they have a difference in their reasoning. Bill feels that drafting positions such as a DB, high, is not the way to go, and feels that top picks should be used on front seven picks, or lineman on either side of the ball. Pyrite Gal talks more knowledge of our defensive scheme when talking about why we shouldn't pick a corner. I disagree with Pyrite Gal because he/she discusses our system, what we play and when we play it, which IMO is completely wrong.
I wasn't picking on anyone, just wanted to post an idea I though Pyrite Gal should see, and I'm sorry if it seemed like I was calling someone out, I didn't intend for a bashing.
Why do people reason it's not as important to select a CB in the first? When your DL and OL aren't strong, that's when. Buffalo drafted a DB with 3 of their first 4 picks two years ago, despite having a DT pairing headlined by a guy who couldn't start in Indianapolis (Tripplett) nothing else. The OL in 2006? Peters, Villarrial, Fowler, Reyes, and Gandy. (not to mention Duke Preston!) We later found out the interior DL, along with the entire OL minus Peters, was just plain bad. Now that Buffalo has improved (on paper wrt the DL) at the LOS, I can see them going to the periphery of the field. It just made no sense in 2006, and it never will, especially considering it was a top 10 pick.
It's why this year, a host of good lineman (J. Long, C. Long, Gholston, Dorsey, Ellis, Clady, Albert, C. Williams, Otah, Cherilus, Harvey) will go in the top 30.
Not bashing you, but it seems like explaining the theory of big men first on this board is like trying to teach oneself Sanskrit.
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Thanks. Great read.
Brandt is the best expert out there.
Interesting that he's got John Carlson as the top TE. Keller is Tier 7.
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i cant believe someone beat me to this!
just came to post it.
hilarious
This Smith mock serves fits him to a "T." After his display on MNF, he's nothing more than Eric Dickerson with a bigger forehead.
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I really don't understand the afinity for DRC. He's certainly tall, but his lanky frame does not lend itself to playing the run tough, which is what the C2 calls for.
IMO, man coverage is too overated for the Bills, and it's pointed out time and time again. For my money, Brandon Flowers, Antoine Cason, or even McKelvin if available are better suited to the Bills scheme.
DRC and Aqib Talib have bust written all over them, especially in a C2 defense.
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SF has gotten WORSE in pass defense since Clements has been there, and they are paying him 80 F---IN MILLION DOLLARS!!!!!
He was good, but nowhere near THAT good. Plus if we do (and I don't think we will) pick a corner at 11, we aren't going to pay him any where close to that much money (probably around what we payed Lynch last year).
When did NC clone himself to play all four defensive secondary positions. We've established that a secondary relies heavily on the pass rush. Last I checked SF didn't have much of that either.
It'll start a whole new brouhaha, but franchising Clements in 06 was step 1 into keeping him long term. I can't recall the last player who received the franchise tag and subsequently did their one year and went to another team.
This is about long term strategy, not short term thinking. No one's saying that what SF paid NC is what he's worth. Obviously, SF leads the league in money spent AND bad season records. So universally saying NC was an 80M dollar players (when he's probably only going to see 64M) is simple simon thinking.
If the Bills draft a CB in round 1, it's the closest they'll come to admitting it was a mistake to franchise NC for no reason back in 06.
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Fixed.
I have a sense that this group will work well together. A blending of ages and perspectives. There's no template or playbook for becomming a 'personnel man.' Bill Poilian was a Mel Kiper wannabe when he started out, producing a draft analysis with his brother that he shopped to anyone in the CFL or NFL that would give him the time of day. At this point, Brandon has a lot more NFL experience than Bill did when he stepped into the job.
Some owners are strictly moneymen who don't know if a football's stuffed or inflated. Others, like Jones and Rooney, know the game and can add good insight into player selection decisions. As much as TSW slaggs Ralph, I'd put him more in the latter than former category. Ralph can be mercurial, for sure, but I think he's actually pretty knowledgeable about the NFL game. I'd put his 40+ years up against any other owner in the league, a lot of young scouts and certainly all of TSW.
Brandon is a bright guy, I'm not arguing that. But taking a sales director and making that person a project manager for a defense contractor isn't going to work, not matter how smart that person is. You cannot change course and become successful without the experience. Despite articles praising Brandon's work on the personnel side, it's been a modest attempt while he handled the business/marketing angle. Modrak has been in scouting for years.
And let's not hide who Jauron is either. He's one of only 10 NFL HC's in HISTORY with 100+ games coached and less than a .430 winning percentage. The others are Leeman Bennett, Joe Kuharich, Bart Starr, Norm Van Brocklin, Bruce Coslet, Dom Capers, Ray Perkins, Dan Henning, John McKay, and Marion Campbell. Hardly wonderful company.
Again, the Bills are the only team in the NFL without a veritable GM or VP or Personnel. If, and I mean only if, this team isn't successful in 2008, there willbe some changes, and it will give some around here the opportunity to say the team needs to start over again.
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Doesn't it seem a bit disingenuous to say no one besides Modrak in the front office knows personnel, implying that TSW posters know more?
Brandon may be new to the GM role, but he has access to infinitely more information on these players than ANY fan will ever have. John Guy, the scouting staff, and probably folks we've never heard of on the Bills payroll are all more knowlegeable than us, given their inside information. Hell, even Ralph knows more about personnel right now than we do.
It's not about how much information Brandon has been fed from Modrak. The point is who makes up the personnel department? Modrak is the VP of College Scouting and Guy is the VP of Pro Scouting.
Brandon is a newbie, although savvy. I feel that despite all the articles touting his abilities, his background (unlike Modrak) is not in personnel. Nowhere did I say the posters at TSW know more. Among NFL front offices, Buffalo's doesn't rank real high, at least at this point.
My question remains: who makes the final decision on draft day when there's a dispute? If it's complete consensus, that's the wrong answer. I would point out the triumvirate of decision makers is Modrak (who I like) Brandon (who's inexperienced) and Jauron. (who's a mediocre HC) Why then does this scenario breed much confidence, emphasizing my point that Modrak is the only experienced personnel guy.
If Ralph is doing anything besides nodding yes when his hand-picked men say something, he's interfering. Most teams' owners aren't going all out a la Jerry Jones. Bob Krafts, Spanos, Jim Irsay, the Tisch's/Mara's, none of them are getting in the way in the war room. They've got actual GM's who handle that sort of thing for them. They know to trust those people, because the Pats*, Chargers, Colts, and Giants all have outstanding personnel departments. Buffalo has a COO.
Allow Me To Be The First To Do So.....
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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At this point, perhaps another K or P. DJ Fitzpatrick isn't caddying well enough.
Honestly, how about a OL? And we all bashed Donahoe for not taking OL for depth...now Dick's taking CB's.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.