Azalin
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5 hours ago, 123719bwiqrb said:
I'd expect the AI to appear first in industries that never shut down, but are experiencing pain due to remote workers, sick workers, etc. A meat packing plant would be a good example - if they lost a bunch of productivity this year due to the virus, and they continue to get ~3 month reinfections for the foreseeable future, then I would expect a machine to carve up the quarters of a cow/pig would appear real soon. If they lose $1MM a quarter, the 6-sigma productivity engineers could justify that AI robot pet project they've been sitting on but could never cost justify before.
I suspect there are many industries out that have been looking to do this, and now can justify the cost.
I should probably start an AI thread (or find and resurrect the old thread) because I don't mean to derail this one. That said, what you describe is already happening , and I honestly do not see how COVID will influence it significantly either way.
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3 hours ago, RochesterRob said:
It boils down if AI will improve the bottomline of a business then that business will acquire it. I don't see a barrier. Business people are about profit and if they can improve profit then they will implement whatever is needed. If factory robots were available such as what automobile manufacturers use today in the 19th Century then the Captains of Industry such as Carnegie, McCormick, etc. would have used them to replace human labor. I doubt that most of the business world ever sweat the loss of human labor when automation pushed it out the door.
I'm not attempting to discuss the merits or application of AI into our society. My initial question (to Unforgiven) remains unanswered; he said "I also think this is the big moment where they slip in AI and replace a humongous amount of workers while no one is looking."
I'm asking for clarification of that statement.
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11 minutes ago, RochesterRob said:
Do you question a timeline for acceptance or do you feel a barrier will form concerning the more prestigious jobs in society. Cost will be the driver whether it be a law firm or a McDonald's store. Many business people are no doubt already pondering the fallout from the pandemic in terms of employee availability for work.
I don't necessarily believe it will go one way or another. Like any other technology, AI will continue to both grow and proliferate as it improves and as demand increases. We will see.
My question was specifically regarding to what extent AI will be used to replace victims of the 'covid economy', and in what fields it might happen.
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1 minute ago, RochesterRob said:
Law, medicine, engineering, etc.. Why pay an employee a six figure salary for decades on end when most likely you will be able to purchase AI for considerably less. I don't see one company holding patents to the point where they can hold the world hostage price-wise and patents are not a forever thing. For a dated show Buck Rodgers in the 25th Century (1979) pointed to the possibility of AI holding important positions in society.
AI already exists in many capacities in our society. I'm asking how AI will be (paraphrased) 'slipped in to replace a humongous amount of workers while nobody's looking'.
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14 minutes ago, 123719bwiqrb said:
I would like to think it is mainly well intentioned governors making short sighted edicts.
What is the end game - mass starvation and death to the peasants? Or is this just about getting Trump out of the White House? That doesn't make sense to me. Is TDS that strong?
The vast majority of elected officials, regardless of party, are self-serving opportunists who will further their own interests over those of their constituency whenever they can get away with it. Those well-intentioned governors are doing what they believe to be the most politically expedient thing to do.
And yes, TDS is that strong. Political tribalism has grown exponentially more venomous and bitter with the last few election cycles. Coming from outside the sphere of professional politics, Trump has earned the ire of many in his own party, let alone the ever-increasingly communist/fascist left.
10 minutes ago, Unforgiven said:I also think this is the big moment where they slip in AI and replace a humongous amount
of workers while no one is looking.
Most of the jobs currently oh-hold right now are person-to-person retail and service type industries. I'm curious as to what fields you see AI taking over.
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1 hour ago, B-Man said:
SERIOUS BODILY HARM THRESHOLD, CROSSED:
Federal officers in Portland may have been permanently blinded by lasers, officials say.
Portland apparently supports this level of violence, or they wouldn't allow their public servants and first responders to be routinely exposed to direct assaults like this. All local unionized police should strike, staying out of harms way until things settle down, while federal forces move in and arrest the lot of them. What in hell are the good citizens paying their taxes for if businesses and city services are torched and people are being assaulted while city officials do nothing? These are not protests; they're ideologically-driven assaults on everything that most Americans - conservative, liberal, whatever, hold dear.
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6 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:
..230 FELONIES??....20 parking tickets earns you a wheel lock......
I know. There's no ***** excuse for being free and on the streets if you've committed that many felonies. No excuse whatsoever.
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58 minutes ago, ALF said:
This is way more sickening
Sheriff Judd on murders of 3 Florida fishing buddies: 'It was horrible. And there was absolutely no reason.'
Tony 'TJ' Wiggins' criminal history dates back to age 12 and he already had 230 felony charges"At the end of the day, he had a happenstance meeting with a young man, Damion that was going fishing. And, Damion mentioned: 'I'm going fishing with Kevin.' So, he told his brother Robert, 'follow him to the lake.' When he got there, he took his gun out and murdered all three of the people," the sheriff added.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/grady-judd-florida-triple-murder-ringleader-fishing-buddies-suspect
That's disgusting. There's some truly evil ***** going on in this country nowadays, and it needs to be put to a stop.
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On 7/20/2020 at 3:00 PM, wppete said:
That is some of the most evil ***** I've ever heard in my life.
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5 hours ago, whatdrought said:
My god, are the idiot loons breeding down here? What the hell?
Not breeding, they just know an easy game when they see it.
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1 hour ago, TtownBillsFan said:
Quoting you, so that a prior quote I started didn't end up here.
I have an honest question, which is where something like this will end up, if we want to end it; how advanced are our weapons, versus those of the Chinese (in particular), and those of the rest of the nations that might not want us to end this genocide BS? Do we have the arms that are so advanced that we could kill any 'conventional' nuclear attempts against us? I'm guessing we likely are at that point (I sure the heck hope we are!) I'm hoping we're several generations beyond conventional 'missiles', and would have the ability to knock any of that crap out of the air, from space. I think we're likely there, and the whole ICBM fear is a thing of the past. Am I hoping for something that likely exists, or am I hoping for something not there, yet? Given the way we can be found, on earth, by our own cell-phones, something tells me we have the ability to knock crap out of the air, on a dime, if needed.
To add, I think we likely have stuff so far beyond ICBM nuclear missile stuff, even worrying about what we/China/USSR had back then is funny. I'm hoping all the 'black-budget' stuff we have going one puts us so far beyond missiles, that's it's not even worth worrying about. And, as such, I hope we just put a big-ass lock-down on these countries like China, killing their people. I'm hoping Trump comes out with the BIG D, and says, no more of that BS, straight-up! He's trying to, economically. We might just have to swing the big D, and do it militarily, but I'm asking if we have enough to do that, since we rubes are not in the know.
It doesn't matter how advanced our weaponry is. Nuclear war on that scale would be a disaster of beyond-biblical proportions, and is absolutely the wrong way to even think about addressing this issue. Any kind of military response would be both ridiculous and disastrous.
This will have to be addressed through international or multinational economic means. Open warfare with China, no matter how morally justified it may be, must remain out of the question.
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When Germany's attempted extermination of the Jews became common knowledge, one of the common reactions was that had the world at large known of the holocaust, we could have put a stop to it. Well, we know about this, so if our compassion is going to be consistent, then something needs to be done to put a stop to China's persecution of the Uyghers. In my opinion, this is exactly the kind of thing that the UN was intended for. I'm not sure the UN is capable of handling something like this anymore, but I believe the world needs to be involved in addressing this, not just the US.
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3 hours ago, Hedge said:
Rest in peace.
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21 minutes ago, snafu said:
I stopped reading the NYT a long time ago. I suspect that it has long ago completed its transition to a one-sided outlet for news and opinions.
This is a resignation letter from Bari Weiss, who was their OpEd “centrist”. It is worth a read. Maybe she’s got sour grapes, but what she describes sounds a lot like a description of my suspicions. If true, I’m glad I stopped reading the NYT and I wish they’d open themselves back up to competing points of view.
https://www.bariweiss.com/resignation-letter
My own forays into Wrongthink have made me the subject of constant bullying by colleagues who disagree with my views. They have called me a Nazi and a racist; I have learned to brush off comments about how I’m “writing about the Jews again.” Several colleagues perceived to be friendly with me were badgered by coworkers. My work and my character are openly demeaned on company-wide Slack channels where masthead editors regularly weigh in. There, some coworkers insist I need to be rooted out if this company is to be a truly “inclusive” one, while others post ax emojis next to my name. Still other New York Times employees publicly smear me as a liar and a bigot on Twitter with no fear that harassing me will be met with appropriate action. They never are.
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I do not understand how you have allowed this kind of behavior to go on inside your company in full view of the paper’s entire staff and the public. And I certainly can’t square how you and other Times leaders have stood by while simultaneously praising me in private for my courage. Showing up for work as a centrist at an American newspaper should not require bravery.
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Part of me wishes I could say that my experience was unique. But the truth is that intellectual curiosity—let alone risk-taking—is now a liability at The Times. Why edit something challenging to our readers, or write something bold only to go through the numbing process of making it ideologically kosher, when we can assure ourselves of job security (and clicks) by publishing our 4000th op-ed arguing that Donald Trump is a unique danger to the country and the world? And so self-censorship has become the norm.
"Showing up for work as a centrist at an American newspaper should not require bravery."
This "centrist" strikes me more as being a rational, moderate liberal realizing that there is nothing liberal about modern American leftism. The Times' problem isn't nearly as recent as the author implies - in my opinion they long ago gave up any pretense of objectivity.
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41 minutes ago, Rob's House said:
Well, this is what the Smithsonian is peddling now.
https://nmaahc.si.edu/learn/talking-about-race/topics/whiteness
"In this country, American means white. Everybody else has to hyphenate."
What a crock of bull####. It was minorities themselves that adopted the "hyphenated American" titles in order to emphasize their ethnicity.
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10 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said:
I said that this would happen years ago when the renaming/statue removal debate began.
The goal is to implement Marxist social structures. In order to to do this they must tear down everything which came before.
You absolutely did, as did a few of us. It's been evident from the start, yet those that have denied it this whole time continue to do so, while mocking us for voicing our concern at every opportunity.
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6 hours ago, keepthefaith said:
How do we have a serious conversation without a point or two to start?
Give us your top 3 white privileges and we can start there unless you're merely looking for this type of conversation.
You're wasting premium comedy on that muffinhead?
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My Irish ancestor was born in 1757 in County Down, Ulster, and came to the US when he was 19. I'm 7th generation Scots-Irish with a smattering of Scandinavian & German mixed in.
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2 hours ago, njbuff said:
That looks like what you'd get if Michael Berryman and Gary Busey had an offspring.
edit: No offense meant to Mr. Berryman.
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3 hours ago, LB3 said:
They've got the best customer service....
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29 minutes ago, B-Man said:
Two points:
1) It seems that saying F**k (fill in the blank)!!! is just about all the far left has with which to argue their point these days. Not particularly imaginative.
2) I didn't recognize a single "celebrity" listed in that article.
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2 hours ago, bilzfancy said:
but peanuts were cheap, and we had Billy beer
Billy Beer! I forgot all about that.
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20 minutes ago, RochesterRob said:
Carter. The man who lead us to double digit inflation and double digit interest rates by the time he left in Jan 1981. He also helmed a deep Recession to kick off the 1980's.
Double-digit unemployment too if memory serves correctly.
Remember the Misery Index?
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4 hours ago, Kemp said:
Judging by some of the nut jobs here, a lot of his supporters will back him up. At that point we would officially be a dictatorship.
The biggest idiots here will cite as proof of wrongdoing, tweets from people you have never heard of.
That's how deep their evil and stupidity runs.
I guarantee that if this horrible scenario comes to pass, that the scum will embrace their beloved dictator. That is what scum does.
Some here would probably admit they would follow him. Others might say they won't (I doubt it), but in the end, we know that the stupid and evil will.
We all know that more people will vote for Biden than Trump, even if some won't admit it. Most of us also know that the most insecure man in America will not go quietly, as every previous loser has.
He would rather destroy the country than just leave the White House. So would a good deal of his followers.
Hopefully he just bellows and leaves. If not, America will be on the scrap heap of history.
This is one of the most extraordinarily stupid things I've ever seen posted here, which is truly saying something. The others are just trolling, but you seem to have a genuine problem. Keep it to yourself.
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DOJ Appoints Robert Mueller as Special Counsel - Jerome Corsi Rejects Plea Deal
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Nadler is an incredible choad.