The Big Cat
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Lol. You said the same thing in 2015 when Rex sent Schwartz packing.
Don't worry. You'll be wrong again.
Go ahead and provide that link. We'll wait.
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Aversion to turnovers -- I thought that was a positive thing. Silly me. And rating has absolutely nothing (statistically speaking) to do with low attempt volume. Absolutely zero.
You're seriously going to make us start at zero with this conversation? You're going to pretend like TT's unwillingness/inability to make the kind of risky throws necessary to win in the NFL is totally completely brand new to you?
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I have not told you it was good enough. I have told you it still outranked what Olson has done without a top level QB.
It isn't as simple as the offenses rank 1 to 32 based on their Quarterback.
That wasn't aimed at you.
There is abundant hand wringing over how the new OC is bound to ruin what was a great offense. It wasn't.
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This is simply false - they ranked 19th. https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/average-team-passer-rating
TT's inflated rating has been roundly analyzed and accredited to his low attempt volume and aversion to turnovers. It is exceptionally misleading to suggest this ranking reflects the 19th best passing offense.
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Of course - because it gives you a bigger playbook from which to call plays. But you can run an effective offense without a top QB. Anthony Lynn and Greg Roman proved that here. You don't have to be ranked in the bottom 3rd of the league just because you don't have a franchise Quarterback.
Olson in my opinion is pretty good working with some relatively lowly QBs.... but he is not a good in game playcaller.
ALynn and GRoman ran offenses intended to complement a dominant defense. They were not effective on their own. I don't want any more of that razor's edge, ****. See Chiefs, KC.
From 2015-16 the Bills were 2-16...read that again...2-16 when their opponent scored 20 or more points.
Stop telling me the offense was good enough.
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I actually agree with you that this is true. But when something becomes a repeated pattern time and time again I think you are able to make some reasonable assumptions. Doesn't mean you are 100% right but it is still a fair assumption.
Funny how the NFL's best OC's always have great QB's.
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It must be nice to "win" all discussion points with one-liners that don't actually address the issue. Cool beans
Hadn't realized there was a scoreboard. Might help you make up ground if you (or anybody else certain this will fail) clarified your expertise on OC's from around the league.
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Weird, I thought it was easy to run when you're QB is good.
Well, keying in on his ypc helps make his point.
Finishing 7th in the NFL with 10 rushing TD's, on the other hand, would not.
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I can't remember the interview, so I would appreciate it if someone could help me out with a link, but I do recall him being asked a question about his staff. His answer was something to the effect that he has a notebook that he kept updating with people he thought would be good fits at different staff positions. I would hope that his list for OC is slightly more extensive than just McCoy, but you have to wonder just how much wind it took out of his sails when McCoy went to Denver. If he doesn't have GOOD second, third and fourth options in that little notebook it should be a cause for concern.
Interesting. So the same "predictable" complaint about him that has plagued him over and over in various coordinator jobs he's had is really all the QB's faults? Must be nice to always have an excuse lined up. Sounds like he wasn't privy to what decisions were being made on plays he called.
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Boy, our longitudinal understanding of another team's OC sure did crystallize quickly!
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Got it, well that's settled then
Exactly the point. You have no idea what the playcalls are, what the QB's freedom to change them is, how many different calls the QB can make at the line, etc, etc, etc.
"Playcalling" is probably the dumbest things fans complain about. We know this because it's a complaint that's nearly gone extinct now that we have access all-22 analyses, without which we can't even begin to guess at what the objective of any given play was. But even the most diligent all-22 analysts freely admit that their ability to understand things is severely limited...by not knowing the playcall.
So, again.
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Offensive PI should be 15 yards and loss of down.
I've been shouting about this for years. It's absurd that it's not.
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He would have had to have been checking out of every single play in order for this to be a valid argument.
That's not even remotely the case.
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What was it that struck you about his play calling that was bad? I ask because the # 1 fan complaint always seems to be play calling, when usually it's the players not executing the called play. So I usually hate hearing complaints about play calling . There is an art to it and we've all seen bad play calling : like running on first down too often , or calling weird " trick plays" at curious times . A. Lynn was guilty of both of these : remember the strange play to Reggie Bush with the season on the line? I'd like to know what stood out about Olson, because play calling is always the " default" complaint about a struggling offense.
THIS X 1,000,000
Unimaginative. I only watched a few games but even then you could see how they lined up, look at the down and distance and probably predict what the playcall was about 3 times out of 4.
And you know for certain that the QB wasn't checking to something at the line?
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If McDermott can't even get favors from his coaching tree we are in a very bad place.
Please stop.
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That is crummy.
Why?
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how much better does the 9th ranked offense need to be? you want clutch? show me a defense that keeps the team in the game to win it. russel wilson is considered a clutch guy. look at his comebacks from being down 12-7 in the 4th and wins 14-12. defense keeps him in games and he wins em. he regularly has games like tennessee last year or balt this year where he does nothing all game then scores once in the 4th quarter to win.
It help keep these conversations on track if we acknowledged that the "9th ranked offense" mattered for precisely diddly poo. The ranking is being tossed around as if it were the equivalent of being the "9th best offense." We were not. The offense was not good enough last year. Tyrod was not good enough. Let's not lose these facts in the rearview.
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No way he gets the job. Only reason they're bringing him in is to find out what went wrong in BLo so they don't make same mistakes
Well...considering he's what went wrong in BLo...
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George Hurst!
Nicely done, Gugny
EDIT: So, I didn't type "Gugny," I typed an ofted used epitaph used on Deadwood.
That's probably the best autocorrect east egg I've ever seen.
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When OC's elsewhere fail it's because their QB stinks.
When our OC's fail, it's because our organization stinks.
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What has he done that makes him a good QB coach? He was around Bortles and his throwing motion looks worse than it did when he was drafted.
This thread is teeming with self-ascribed expertise. Proceed with caution.
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It's apparently not anonymous since it's being reported across the web.
Perhaps he see a barber prior to the interview.
Except I heard it from a horse's mouth.
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I can verify Dunne's anonymous source.
This guy ruined the 2016 campaign, singlehandedly.
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Thank goodness. For a minute there we felt pretty good about our coaches.
Couldn't possibly have that. Relieved that we might finally be lining up someone to hate and scapegoat.
Childress & Olson Both Reported as Out for Bills' OC
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Please. We all know what posting the rankings is meant to imply.
And I continue to remain exceedingly skeptical of the sudden expertise in this guy's playcalling.
1-8 when their opponent scored more than 20 points. Those rankings mean diddly poo.