Dr. Trooth
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I gotta disagree with you there.
A big part of the Bills problem in the last 13 years has been the "culture of losing".
I find it hard to believe that there isn't a player on the team that isn't going "wtf is this team doing?" with that signing.
And then the info that his contract may be worth $13M over two years?
It doesn't make the Bills weaker at the position. But, it certainly doesn't make them stronger at the position either, and if it does it aint saying much because they have s#it to start with.
As for the 13M figure. We don't know the particulars yet. The Bills are not paying a backup 13M over 2 years. But, I'm betting that all bets are off if he isn't a starter and I also believe it is tied to the number of starts because of his injury history.
He is not going to be the Bills starter. The starter will be selected @ #8 in the draft. Bills are taking a mulligan this year and doing so with a rookie QB, not a retread that has no upside.
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This might be the most ignorant statement I have ever read on here. Since when does blue collar mean white and underpaid? Blue Collar is hard working, nothing handed to you, give your best no matter how unappreciated your talents are. Fred Jackson could be considered the poster boy for a blue collar athlete.
One could argue that over 90% of nfl fans are blue collar. Why would the nfl run away from their fan base? Whatever unsettled personal and political issues you have dont pertain to this topic.
Prett much agree. I would classify Drew Brees and Tom Brady as "blue collar". Their mesureables are no where near elite. But what they lack in those they more than make up for it by putting more time into it and working harder at the finer details of the game. You can have all the potential in the world and high end measureables, but you'll go nowhere if you won't put the time into the game on the cerebral end. That's what separates Nassib from the rest.
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Nuttin scares me... I know what not to expect.
Nuttin inspires me... there is no reason
Just a wait and see and by October we'll see where we are.
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Pass on all. Thanks
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Ive read this in other posts and still dont get the logic. How does signing a mediocre QB allow the Bills to draft lesser talent at #8? How does that make any sense?
I agree Kolb is mediocre... but that is only when he actually plays... which won't ever be for a full season. The statement that Nassib is a lesser talent simply isn't even close to reality. He's top of the class.
What everyone looks at are all of the measureables. All the stuff that adds up to potential but hardly ever do they consider what's between the ears... the one ingrediant that is the difference maker. No qb in this draft or on the Bills roster will out work or out study Nassib. When they're out partying, playing golf, or walking the mall, Nassib will be working out and studying film. That's who he is.
The only thing Nassib needs is to adjust to the speed of the game. The rest he'll grasp because he'll put the time in.
In a couple of years you'll see what Drew Brees looks like at 6'2" and thicker.
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Happy Easter to all. So, I wake up to the Kolb news. No big deal. He won't play much, which is a good thing for both the bills and kolb.
He's been rode hard and put away wet. So, relax folks, the Bills know he's one hit away from retirement, so they aren't putting all their easter eggs in one basket.
This move serves two purposes.
1) Keeps other teams focus away from the Bills taking a qb at #8.
2) Makes it a lock the Bills take Nassib at #8. (Hey... they need a qb that's all about the "W" can take a hit and shrug it off)
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That $17 million cap space is only good for the 2013 season. $10 million roll over from 2012 , then in 2014 a charge of $7 million for Fitz. If I understand it correctly.
From what I understand, Fitz total cap hit was $10m. $5m to be absorbed in 13 and $5m in 14.
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Does this mean CJ got winded?
No... it is Tashard's turn.
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Because the best way a rookie LB learns is to be the only rookie or only crappy linebacker Dansby). Because the best way a rookie safety or CB learns is to have a run defense keep the opposition in long passing downs, not 2nd and 3 or 4 all day (Dansby). Because the best way a rookie QB learns is to have a good line in front of him (Moore) and some targets to throw to (Bey) and a defense that keeps teams from scoring so he is not forced to throw all day. Because the best way a project OG drafted in the fourth round learns is to play behind a veteran (Moore) for a year or two. Because the best way a rookie WR learns is to be the third or fourth option and not the second option.
The Bills are a pretty young team already. The best way for young guys to learn is to play around some older guys. You're right, we don't want a bunch of washed up vets on one leg. But, as stated, Dansby and Lawson next to Bradham, Sheppard and a rookie LB is going to help that rookie a lot. Lawson next to Bradham, Sheppard, a rookie and an UDFA is cause for panic.
Not saying Dansby isn't a good player. Its just that at his age and what he'll command for a salary and the reality that he would only be a Bill for a couple of years, why do that for a team that is probably a 4-6 win team in 13. A team to be said to be building through the draft and with players like Byrd, Wood, Spiller to re-sign. Draft a LB and plug him in.
Bills youngens didn't learn a whole lot from Barnett, Mario, and Anderson last year. And I suspect they wouldn't get a lot from Dansby either
Dansby belongs on a contender to get full value not a perennial doormat.
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Geno to Jags or Philly, no way he lands in Buffalo if we stay at #8
And that is even if Smith is there at #8. No way do the Bills see a qb that worked exclusively out of the shotgun and spread a fit for their offense.
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I am depressed about the way that Nix and Co. are handling things this year. Without a viable QB to tout they can't even pry a guy coming off of an ACL tear from his original team with more money.
When it comes to priorities a viable starting QB has to be #1 on the list.
Without one we have no hope to win and no hope to be able to sign quality veteran FAs..............................and we need to be able to sign some quality vet FAs because our six draft picks cannot possibly fill all of the holes that have been created.
With that said, here's an updated list of available FAs that could help us:
Some Available Veteran Free Agents
Brandon Moore LG
Brandon Lloyd WR.
Darrius Heyward-Bey WR
Calvin Pace OLB
Nick Barnett OLB
James Harrison OLB
Shaun Phillips OLB
Michael Boley OLB
Karlos Dansby ILB
Daryl Smith ILB
Tracy Porter CB
Mike Jenkins CB
Brent Grimes CB
Nnamdi Asomugh CB.
Your thoughts??
I'm concerned that no FA will want to sign with us until they see who our potential starting QB will be.
Every player you mention, with the exception of DHB is either on the wrong side of 30 (and some by a lot) or coming off a serious injury. So, what is to be gained by signing any of them right now? It is a QB driven league, and right now the Bills DO NOT have one of those. When the Bills draft their QB, he's gonna start right out of the gate. Now, if you are expecting the Bills to make the playoffs, you need to change those expectations pronto... and by a lot. They will be fortunate to win 5 games... anything more is gravy, any less, not really disturbing.
This belief that the Bills have talent is a bit misguided. aside from about 9 or 10 of the 22 starting positions, they really do not have a lot of talent. And, bringing aged and old talent is not going to help them rebuild and get better. They need young, fresh, and fast legs.
Just by observing the way the Bills have approached this offseason, it is clear they are in a rebuilding stage again. That was clear the moment they let Fitz go without having a better option. Because of that, they're not even 100% sure their guy at QB is going to be their at #8... so they don't know who their QB is really going to be. Free agents see that and are not turned on by that. And, I have a hunch, if their guy is gone by #8, they will probably trade out and get more picks (unless there's a major talent that falls to them at another position) and not take a QB until round 3 or 4.
They'll bite the bullet, gut out the season with TJax, bringing their 3rd/4th rd. QB along, and at some point might even give him a few starts. But a 3rd/4th rd rookie aint gonna be the Bills franchise QB... If they their guy aint there at #8, they'll hop on the franchise QB merry go round next year again, and probably end up with a top 6 choice.
So, what you should expect of the Bills in free agency is probably about 15 rookie free agents after the draft concludes. And I don't see the Bills signing more than 1, maybe 2 NFL free agents, if at all.
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The Bills allegedly offered more money for more years ...
Marrone has a lot of work cut out for him this year.
Allegedly??? show us all a credible link for that might back that up, please.
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In 2009 the Dallas Cowboys drafted 12 players. When Victor Butler was signed by the Saints earlier this week, that left the Cowboys with zero (0) players on their roster from that draft.
Yep, 12 draft pix and after 3 seasons..... nothing to show for from that draft. Jerry Jones may want to fire coaches, but he might want to look straight at himself as President and GM.
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Great news. For once another team saves the Bills from themselves. The dude aint gonna ever be the same. He's done and I don't know why anyone thinks he has value.
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Ty wheatley's son is moving to Buffalo with the family. He's 6'6" 235 and played at F-M last year.
He will be going into his junior year of HS and already has scholarship offers from Alabama, Michigan, and Syracuse among others.
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The beauty of this process is that no one really knows. Not the experts, not the coaches, not the scouts, not TBD posters, no one. At this point, I think Barkley is worth the risk. Arm strength can improve, we've seen it happen many times. Brady was a noodle arm coming out of college and now is throwing seeds. Drew Brees was never really a strong armed QB and he turned out ok.
The thing I like about Barkley that I think will help him succeed is that he's been a 4 year starter in a top tier Pro style attack. He's accurate. He's tasted success and battled failure. If we take a chance on him at 8 and it doesn't work out, well, we're not that much worse off. We have the top pick in next years draft and we take Johnny Manziel or the next stud QB.
So, if I understand correctly, you are an advocate for gambling the #8 pick on a qb that Kiper says is a 2nd rounder, Cosell says is a 1st rounder, Brandt now says is a 2nd rounder, and Mayock says is a late 1st rounder? And, if he flops it's ok, the Bills can draft Manziel next year?
Wow. That's a big time gamble considering anything and everything possible that could happen.
Have you ever had a job which requires critical thinking and critical decisions which could cost you not just your job, but your career?
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No reason he should not be there, but he was quite candid that he did not see himself as an evaluator of football talent. If this is a workout, cap numbers and salaries are not in the discussion; a workout (in my opinion) means throwing, running, questions on defensive reads, etc. If Russ can contribute to this workout evaluation, have at it.
He may not be there to evaluate talent. He may be there for many reasons...
1 - Learning
2 - Meet and greet with UT folks
3- Get his own sense of Bray's character. ( one doesn't need to be a football scout to see that)
4 - showing his own passion and supporting his football guys.
5 - Trusting his guys but ensuring they're on track and following up on the process that has been layed out
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If they don't start addressing guard, wide receiver and linebacker in free agency, they will win about three games this year.
Can't believe Marrone is down with what's going on.
OK. I guess the Jonny Football watch beginneth.
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I'll say one thing... the board really "lights up" on the topic of Ryan Nassib... good or bad. 55 pages and counting.
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I'm ok with this and happy they are looking at all options, but unlike the combine where Russ was there to shmooze with other owners, Presidents and agents....why is Russ going to workouts??
Maybe they have good Bar-B-Q in Knoxville??
Because he can. He is the man in charge. Bills are likely going to select their QB of the future in about 4 weeks. I'd say that's a big decision to make...especially considering the pundits/scouts are said to not have a cear cut favorite.
Is there a reason you believe he should not be there?
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The Bills had an elite guard in Levitre, arguably the best pass blocking guard in the league with high YPC to the left side, and he wanted to stay in Buffalo. Maybe Ralph dies and Russ Brandon goes away by then, but I'm not betting on it. If they're not paying to keep Levitre, they're not paying for anyone good at the position.
There's still value in having Warmack for 4 years at a relatively cheap price tag, assuming that he ends up being a top guard. Big assumption.
Levitre is not an elite guard. His is a good pass blocker (not great) and a good pulling guard. He is not a bad run blocker, but he's not a great one either. He gets overpowered a lot of times. He may be above average overall, but he's not in the Logan Mankins stratosphere.
Levitre does, or should get points for not missing a game in four seasons and versatility
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According to NFL.com, the Bills have close to $17m in cap room right now. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000154634/article/remaining-salarycap-space-for-each-nfl-team
However, nearly $10m was rolled from last year... which means they are at 94% spend of the $121m cap.
I'm not clear what they are going to do with the $10m rollover from last year... maybe offer 2-4 FAs a guaranteed one year deal or maybe restructure a couple of current player deals in order to move money into the 2013 cap to take the hit now.
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Bill, I continue to disbelieve that drafting Nassib would cause anyone to buy tickets.
Most Bills fans who post here don't even want to draft the guy and many Syracuse fans who post here don't seem very enthralled with him.
Perhaps not. But, I don't believe that to be the Bills motivation. They need to grab the right guy right now that fits with the team, the WNY community and the offense. What I mean by that is WNY is "blue collar", the team is "blue collar", and the offensive playbook is probably ready and the QB must step in as a starter on day one. The Bills cannot go with Jax as the starter. Judging from the many posts, everyone has their favorites, whether it's fact, philosophical, logical, or emmotion based; and it comes down to Smith, Barkley and Nassib primarily that the fans are split between.
If you look at the fit and the offense, two of the three will have a longer learning curve, just from the terminology perspective. In addition, one of them, because they worked exclusivly out of the shotgun and spread offense will have a steeper learning curve having to learn to play under center, learn 3-5 step drops as well as the terminolgy... that QB will probably have to sit a year to get acclimated. In terms of the "blue collar" image, there's really only one. That's obvious. Then, when you look at the Bills past success with California QBs, it aint pretty. Johnson, Losman, and Edwards did not do well. The California guys seem to come highly publicized and touted and the fans seem to have less patience and acceptance of them, especially when they falter. Buffalo is probably the harshest weather venue in the NFL. Wind, rain, snow, ice is on the table from mid October on. When you come from an environment in which you don't experience that, it's an added adjustment. I don't mean just playing. I mean, cleaning the snow off your car, walking in it, shoveing it, your hands freezing, that is an adjustment.
So who fits best and is in the best position to take over day one and forward of that as well? I see one candidate that is a spot on hit. I see two candidates that are more projections... a belief that they could, or might, be a fit, but, it is not as clear and as sure fire... and a mistake in the selection could set the Bills back two years or more.
So, at #8, in the Bills situation, you don't gamble or "project" what the player will be... you have to know what he is. The Bills know who that is right now. They are just doing their due dillegence and validate it... ticket sales be damned... They'll let the marketing guys worry about the koolaid.
Matt Barkley - QB - USC
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Seems like a description of every USC QB coming out over the past 20 years. Strange though, I don't remember seeing any of them win a playoff game, let alone start in a SB. USC QBs always generate a lot of sizzle, but the bottom line, more fizzle and no steak. Johnson, Palmer, Sarkesian, Leinart, Sanchez
:thumbdown: 
. Barkely will be no different.