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  1. 2 hours ago, Gene Frenkle said:

    Manipulative pump and dump. If his fanatics can't see the easy grifts, they have no chance with this one.

     

    1. Trump gets his stock

     

    2. MAGA buys in and holds, sending the price high

     

    3. Trump sells at the top, tanking the price

     

    4. Ma and Pa MAGA lose 50% of their retirement and Pa goes back to work at the gas station

     

    5. Trump once again profits off his useful deplorables and stays out of jail a while longer

     

    People are free to do with their money as they please.  If anyone puts 50% of their retirement, or anything even close, they deserve to lose it.

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  2. 57 minutes ago, GreggTX said:

    He has very long arms and already has a solid repetoire of moves. I suspect he'll get a pretty fair number of snaps. Beane says if he was 2" taller, he'd have been long gone. Those who think this team won't keep any of their day 3 picks are mistaken. They really wana chance to coach these guys up and see what their ceiling is. At least that'smy impression. The new coaches will have to prove themselves.

     

    Having Von around (even in his diminished state) to teach him his tips and tricks will be huge for Solomon.

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  3. 19 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

    I think the point that some folks are making is that they are granting that head-to-head, McGovern will win against SVP, no matter how talented he may be, because professional experience goes a long way, and even though Van Pran was excellent at the collegiate level (I am an UGA fan, he was), it doesn't match the kind of experience McGovern has accrued. The way that SVP is not competing against McGovern is in the holistic synthesis of the best starting five. It may be that McGovern at LG with Van Pran at center is part of the most effective grouping.

     

    It is in that way that Van Pran does not have to prove to be superior to McGovern at Center, but as the Center that allows McGovern to play LG. If that contributes to the better Oline, it will happen. And long-term, I say Van Pran will develop into a starting Center for many years.

     

    I hear what you're saying, but then I look at the Chiefs in 2021.  They drafted Humphrey in the 2nd round and Trey Smith (RG) in the 5th round and both started from Day 1 despite the Chiefs having just gone to the SB and having an All-World QB they wanted to protect.  I'm sure there was an OL like McGovern who by all accounts should have started over Humphrey, but they took the chance.  And Torrence is a 2nd year RG, not a rookie like Smith.

     

    And another thing to consider is that, while McGovern has more professional experience, Van Pran has spent the last 8 years playing only center, and the last 3 years on the premier college football program that finished 1st, 1st and 5th in the nation, often times going up against future NFL players.  McGovern OTOH hasn't played center since his sophomore season in college and 1 game as a junior.

     

    Now I agree that Van Pran likely won't win the starting job because I don't see the Bills taking a chance like the Chiefs did.  But you never know.

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  4. 2 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

    Agreed. Van Pran is not competitng with McGovern who will be in the starting 5 no matter what. Van Pran is competing with David Edwards/Collins. I would not slee on Edwards. Van Pran would have to look so good in there that they move McGovern back to LG. It’s all about playing the best 5. 

     

    I disagree with this.  The Bills let Morse and Bates go because their plan was to have McGovern start at center.  Van Pran appears to be strictly a center and as such I think they'll give him a chance to compete with McGovern.  If he proves to be superior, which will be tough but not impossible, they'll start him at center and move McGovern back to LG.  Edwards and Collins will be competing against each other for the LG spot, unless/until Van Pran wins the center spot.

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  5. 15 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

    As I've said multiple times...

     

    There is literally next to no chance.. a short-armed , smaller center who struggles with technique .. could beat out a NFL starter... With center experience in college... And is now one of the strongest biggest centers in the league

     

    It will be next to impossible to beat him out in 1 year... Maybe next season or the year after 

     

    You're not unseating an the NFL veteran who is big for his position year 1... Who is starting quality 

     

    I think that it will be tough for Van Pran-Gran to unseat McGovern.  But if he does...

  6. 26 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:

    I don’t think they would care about playing Van Pran playing next to Torrence coming off a rookie season where he played fairly well and now has a second off-season to work on his game. I think they are more just not wanting to be “forced” to start a rookie and to have options 

     

    I don't know.  That's (still) quite a bit of inexperience, especially considering the center makes the line calls.  And having him start would give them more options.

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  7. 3 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

    The people who don't consider something to be a baby should A. Have to see an ultrasound of the thing they dont consider to be a baby and B. Watch the "surgery" being performed.   If they still have the same opinion afterwards, fine.    Otherwise their "consideration" is complete and utter ignorance and not based in reality.  

     

    I had only done anesthesia for women who had early-term abortions when I was in residency and the early part of my career.  I then worked with a CRNA who vehemently refused to be in a termination of pregnancy case.  I didn't know what the big deal was until I realized he probably had been put in a late-term abortion case.

  8. 1 hour ago, 4th&long said:

    Same thing, killed a Doug needlessly.

     

    Not needlessly.  She tried to train the dog for over a year but it didn't work.  The other option was to take it to the pound where it likely would have been euthanized.

     

    1 hour ago, KDIGGZ said:

    She is a MILF though. I think we can all agree on that right?

     

    She is.  The one commercial of her as a dental hygienist... 🤤

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  9. 1 hour ago, BillStime said:

    Here we go again - “transform America” while your party is passing laws and transforming America.

     

    Projection at its finest.

     

    It's not projection: it's what your hero Barry said you Dems wanted to do to America.  Are you calling him a liar?

     

    Just now, thenorthremembers said:

    So you're comparing a guy who potentially says mean things to a group known for rape, hostage taking and murder?   The lack of self awareness.....

     

    They claim Repubs hate women and LGBTQ+ but they support Muslims who kill them for the smallest of offenses/just existing.

  10. 7 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:

    I think Van Pran will win the center spot but the “Plan B” of McGovern at Center and Edwards at LG (which is actually probably the teams plan A so to speak) is not a bad option.

     

    I agree.  And I suspect they are loathe to start a rookie center next to a 2nd year LG. 

  11. 44 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:

    Edwards was always a decent starter he only didn’t get a bigger contract is that in 2022 he got hurt. But I love Edwards more as a 6th linemen in a jumbo package and the first guard off the bench in case of injury with some RT flexibility.

     

    I think Van Pran takes the starting center spot and McGovern takes the LG spot. Which solidifies the bench as the bench now has Edwards back on it, Collins a solid vet option if healthy, Van Denmark a capable swing tackle and decent developmental options in Anderson and Grabel 

     

    Van Pran-Gran winning the center spot would be great.  Let's hope it happens.

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  12. 39 minutes ago, SWATeam said:

    I think they're different.  Grable and Clayton are projections based on potential.  Soloman has a track record of incredible production but just lacks prototypical size.

     

    Clayton's never played football, or any high level sport for that matter.  He's pure projection.  At least Grable played football, and at a Div. 1 school.

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    6 minutes ago, Rigotz said:

    OR, make it extremely complicated 

     

    Move McGovern to C

    Move Dawkins to LG

    Move ... I don't know, somebody else to LT ...

     

    Anyway, you get the point, just move everybody. Git er done TBD!

     

    Eh, the only real move at present is McGovern to C.  Edwards started 40 straight games at LG for the Rams, including their championship season in 2021.

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