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    Training camp schedule & ticket info released!

    in The Stadium Wall

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    27 minutes ago, ClosetFan said:

    Seems like it would make more sense for the Bills to just sell the tickets outright rather than have stubhub taking the profits. Maybe it could be a charity fund raiser. I would still rather see them move the practice to a venue able to handle the demand. Someone mentioned they saw tickets on sale for $70, but I thought NYS law limited markup to 10%.


    I believe if you charge for it, people can bring in recording equipment or something like that.  Also, even if they sell the tickets, people will still resell them.  The only solutions I can see are giving season ticket holders four tickets instead of six and increasing the number available per trading camp day, or having it back at the stadium.

    Training camp schedule & ticket info released!

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    1 minute ago, BillsPride12 said:

    I'm not sure numbers wise but I see what you are saying.  I know training camp was never the issue/mess that it is now before things took off and the Bills became perennial contenders.  I remember going to training camp in 2019 and it wasn't the hassle that it is now.

     

    Not sure if you are local in WNY right now but it reminds me of Artpark in Lewiston.  They used to do this free concert series every Tuesday night no tickets or anything required.  You could just show up and hang out, it was great!  Then one Summer they started bringing in bigger bands like ZZ Top and Lynyrd Skynyrd and it just became a madhouse and more people were attending than the facility was built to accommodate.  Total s***show.  The following year they started requiring you to buy tickets to this concert series.

     

    Not local currently but grew up in Pittsford and my mom and still lives there and several relatives live in Rochester burbs.  I can literally walk to Pittsford-Mendon HS to catch the bus to training camp.  It's a nice event and a chance to visit her/them. 

     

    And yeah, never had a problem going to camp until the last 2 years.  Which is understandable as I believe STH's should get first dibs.

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    Training camp schedule & ticket info released!

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    2 minutes ago, BillsPride12 said:

    I'm not sure.  But I'm sure behind the scenes they have the logistics of it all figured out.  There's no way they could leave it open without having a cap on attendants with the popularity of the team right now.  And yeah it totally sucks that some people get screwed by not being able to get tickets to it,  but what other way can you distribute tickets besides having some type of lottery?  I stand by my original point that is is impossible to accommodate everybody that wants to attend training camp with a ticket.

     

    Keep in mind the tickets are free so there is a whole other pool of people trying to go that might not attend games because of the financials and how much smaller the seating area is at Fisher v.s. Highmark stadium and think about how many Bills fans are out there.  It's easy to say they can make it where everybody has a chance to get tickets if they want to do but impossible to execute.

     

    What I was getting at is that it seemed like they let in more people prior to the lottery system, but I could be wrong.  Meaning they could offer more than 1,000 tickets.  

    Training camp schedule & ticket info released!

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    1 minute ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

    the problem is the current set up and the commercialization of camp. Let’s Go back to some place like Fredonia with endless fields and parking and people can come and go easily. 
     

    I was at Steelers camp a few years back when the Bills practiced there, and that’s how it was. No tickets and you just roam around.

     

    Post Big Ben?

    Training camp schedule & ticket info released!

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    Just now, BillsPride12 said:

    I get that point and don't condone that behavior at all.  I was able to get 6 tickets but at the time there were two maybe's in our group and I was going to give those two tickets away to someone trying to take their child if they backed out but they have since confirmed they are in as well.

     

    My original point being there is such a high demand because of the popularity of the Josh Allen era Bills that they could not just open it up to the general public without requiring tickets because the facilities would not be able to support that large of a crowd.  Like all of the primetime games we all can't stand now it's another one of those unfortunate angles to being a true contender with a marquee superstar at the helm of it.   

     

    They cap it at 1,000 tickets now.  I wonder if they went over that prior to the lottery era?  

    UPDATE: ISRAEL v IRAN - Ceasefire reached?

    in Politics, Polls, and Pundits

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    4 hours ago, sherpa said:

    As long as we're doing Rolling Stone, a known neutral, (and credible), source of intl intel, can we revisit their "Rape on Campus" story?

     

    I ran into the woman who sued them over that in the produce section of our local Wegmans about a month after her suit was settled. Kind of an odd looking woman who is extremely identifiable.

    I told her that I had never wished for a larger settlement against a dirtbag group.

     

    At least Playboy had nice pictures...

    Random Political Thoughts Inc.

    in Politics, Polls, and Pundits

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    3 hours ago, sherpa said:

    I get really annoyed when people lie, especially about me, and you sir, are a liar.

    I never "downplayed" anything related to that.

    I drove through their staging area that morning, saw that group and had to wait while the police stopped traffic as they crossed, and stated that very afternoon how insane they looked.

     

    For you to claim that I ever "downplayed" it is disgusting, without any substance, and a not unusual product of your bizarre imagination.

     

    And he calls me a liar.  LOL!

    Dolphins trade Jalen Ramsey/Jonnu Smith to Steelers for Minkah Fitzpatrick, picks, per Ian Rap.

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    6 minutes ago, JP51 said:

    I have no idea why they let go of Smith here... maybe Cap, maybe attitude but an almost 900 yd TE with an ageing 1WR and an always injured 2WR and I am not sure what they were thinking other than getting themselves in CAP shape..  they bit a big chunk signing Tua... 

    I know right... he seemed to have good games against us and is brutal to bring down in the 2ndry... 

     

    He's bounced around a lot the last 5 years.  Probably wears out his welcome fast.

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    Buffalo Sabres and the NHL: 2025 - 2026

    in Off the Wall

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    4 hours ago, Gregg said:

    He should sell as he has run the team into the ground. He has the Bills who are a cash cow to his bank account. The Sabres not so much.

     

    The Sabres are a drag to his bank account.  

     

    3 hours ago, boater said:

    Actually, looking at the empty seats at a Sabres game, I think the Sabres are a negative cash flow for Pegs. He probably chips in monthly to cover expenses.

     

    The Bills and the Bandits generate cash, lots of it.

     

    How much do the Bandits make for him?  Being a niche sport, I can't imagine it's significant.

     

    1 hour ago, May Day 10 said:

    I dont see any indication that Pegula is in any urgency to sell the Sabres... let alone sell them to an outside interest who would relocate the team.  Also, he stands to make like $100 Million-Plus for each of these upcoming expansion teams.  

    I do wonder if he had a local off-ramp to rid himself of the Sabres, if he would take the money and run.  He does seem to like acting like a hockey executive though and getting his thrills with further ruining the franchise.

     

    However, this arena situation is coming to a head and something needs to get done.  Arenas in the Keybank Center's age, which were more expensive and nicer at the time are getting major upgrades one after the other.  Washington is getting a $500 Million upgrade.  Nationwide Arena in Columbus (which is younger than the KBC) just had $400 Million in renovations announced.  The Keybank Center is in desperate need of some major updates and will become an increasing black eye for NHL as far as arenas go.  

     

    Who will pay for it?  I dont think the State has an appetite for the political baggage of another major arena project for a failed team who wont spend to the salary cap.  Pegula is taking a beating on the cost of the Highmark project and on some level he probably thinks the public owes him for that one.  The County seems to be distancing themselves.  

     

     

    Many/most Sabres fans wear this armor that the Sabres can never move because the NHL saved them in 2002-2003.  Different times.  Keybank Center was only 6 years old.  The NHL's franchise values were low and fans in the seats were more valuable.  Non-traditional markets across the country have taken off since then and have proven staying power (Nashville, Florida, Dallas, Tampa, Carolina, Vegas, and Seattle).  NHL teams are now worth more than $1 Billion.  Golisano bought the team in 2003 for $70 Million.   In my opinion, without a lease and the building the way it is, nobody involved in the NHL would shed a tear or try to prevent the Sabres from moving to a more appealing locale.

     

    As was mentioned earlier, it may be a matter of him not finding anyone to buy the Sabres and keep them in Buffalo.  He might be waiting to get those expansion fees and then sell, I don't know. 

     

    And there's no way he "gets his thrills" with the state of the franchise.  Hockey is his true love.

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