[9/8 Bills at Jets Second Half Thread]

It's my fault for wearing an unlucky Bills shirt.  I changed just before the Jets missed that FG so I'm optimistic the karma's been fixed.

[Throwback unis for home opener?]

On 9/2/2019 at 4:40 PM, wppete said:

The best uniforms in the league!!!

 

 

I was just thinking how when I was a kid in the 60's, when football players got offseason jobs and didn't stay in condition all year round, the all-whites made a lot of Bills look like overstuffed pillows.  And I was thinking, at least today for whatever reason everybody's trimmer and looks better.  Then you post this picture with O linemen in front  . . .

 

Regardless, I like the current uniforms.  Plus I think white helmets with white jerseys and blue pants looks pretty sharp.

[CBS NFL Picks: Week 1]

The important thing to remember is that this is a set of scientific evaluations made by unassailable experts at the peaks of their analytical powers.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Is everyone's sarcasm detector on and working?

[Practice Squad Signings Thread]

I like the Webb pickup too.  FWIW before Gettleman got to the Giants you always heard around here in North Jersey how much they liked Davis Webb.  Gettleman has a reputation for insisting on his guys and his ways so don't hold that cut against him.  Or the Jets cut -- there's only room for one young/developing QB there and it's Darnold.

[Sunday 9/1 Cut /Waiver Update thread]

2 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said:

Somehow, some way, a NY Jet 3rd round draft pick named Polite, accumulated over $100,000 in fines in freakin' training camp for tardiness and the like, which led to his release and not being claimed. He signed with the Seahawks PS I believe.

 

Sounds like he was born to play in Dallas.  Or Cincinnati.

[Lesean McCoy cut!]

2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

I think he will end up on the Chargers. 

 

I agree and this doesn't bother me at all the way it would if he stayed in the AFC East.  Good luck to him.

[Kiko requests a trade (update: Traded to Saints)]

5 hours ago, WhoTom said:

But yeah, the Kiko for Shady trade was astoundingly lopsided both in theory and on the field. Kiko showed promise in his rookie year, so I can see how Chip wanted to roll the dice on him, but he put way too much on the table for that to have been a reasonable gamble. Best case scenario, Kiko becomes as good at his position as Shady is at his, in which case there's no real gain.

 

Chip, what were you thinking? I mean, thanks! But ... what were you thinking??

 

Interesting (to me anyway) comparison:  today we're talking about two coaches who want(ed) to build their locker rooms just so.  Kelly wanted Shady gone from his locker room and thought he was getting a player he could use in Kiko.  Meanwhile, there's no way no how McDermott would want a Kiko (mediocre skill set, dirty reputation)  in his locker room so any speculation about him coming back here is just us fans having fun talking about it.  McDermott will keep a Lorax or a DiMarco around longer than other coaches because he wants them in his locker room and he'll let Kyle Williams score a touchdown because he wants to recognize leadership and character.  Kiko's not that kind of individual.

 

I wouldn't be surprised to see Kiko cut by Miami and end up in Dallas or Oakland.  They have different theories about who you want to keep around.

[Matt Miller's Scouting Notebook: NFL Scouts Shine on Top Under-the-Radar Rookies - Jaquan Johnson]

12 hours ago, Florida Bills Fanatic said:

Having too many promising players before the cut down, is a nice problem to have.  For a number of years, we were relegated to watching the cuts from other teams in hopes of adding much needed talent.  I like this circumstance much better.  It's hard to find much wrong with Beane's work at this point.  Right now, I'm guessing that picking up a punter from waivers is near the top of Beane's list.

 

Amen.  Exactly what I've been thinking all summer.

[Rookie K Chase McLaughin]

What are the chances he pulled a hammie on that last kickoff and goes straight to IR until 2020?

2 minutes ago, Ennjay said:

 

 

And a slightly more serious question:  suppose something like this happens and then a team lets the guy go with an injury settlement.  What are the rules on re-signing someone like that?  Are you banned for the rest of the year?

[Wyatt Teller traded to Browns]

So the door is now wide open for Conor McDermott.

[Patriots starting center hospitalized]

1 minute ago, jkeerie said:

I pray for his full recovery.   I hate the Pat's but this is a man's life.

 

 Couldn't agree more.

[Notable league Cut Tracker and discussion]

Everyone knows this but I'll say it anyway:  a lot of guys with no prayer of making 53's (or at least the 53's of the teams they're in TC with) will be kept around this week so teams have bodies to run out Thursday night when they're not going to play people they want to protect.   Otherwise I suspect it would be snowing cuts today and tomorrow because there's not much point keeping so many players around (90) when you're trying to prep for the season.

[Gumbel and Green were horrible last night]

7 hours ago, JohnC said:

Preseason games shouldn't be on TV. They are atrocious to watch. If one of the teams is your team then I can understand viewing the game. If your team is not playing then it is not worth the bother. Ugly football is unwatchable football. 

 

True, shouldn't be on national TV because only the local fans care.  It shows you how desperate the networks are for summer programming and the NFL is for summer attention.

[Gumbel and Green were horrible last night]

This gives me a chance to go off on something I always complain about.

 

NOBODY follows all 32 teams.  Nobody.  But they all pretend they do.  During the regular season the weekly broadcasters spend a couple of days prepping on the teams they're about to cover but most media don't even do that.  The national guys -- the ones you catch on radio morning shows or ESPN or Fox1 -- all pretend they kn ow something but they don't.  They have a little knowledge of, say, the top six or eight teams, and maybe the local teams (like the Jets and Giants if they're based in New York) but for most of the league they repeat nonsense based on last year's record and the same stories/rumors everybody else passes around.  So if someone says once that Josh Allen is inaccurate, that's what everyone "knows" and keeps saying.  And the Patriots must be good because they're always good.  (I've seen nothing that actually analyzes the NE roster but a lot of predictions based on exactly that.)  Other than Ron Jaworski in the old days, I don't think anyone spends the time watching actual games of the people they're spouting about.

 

That being said, the OP was right here -- Gumbel and Green sounded like they did little or no research on either team and we're reading notes someone left on the table for them, like where each D finished last year.  Was Ed Oliver in the game last night?  Do the Bills even have TE's on their roster?  Couldn't tell from those guys.

[Scuttlebutt on McCoy]

This will happen the same day the Bills claim Kiko Alonso on waivers from Miami.

[Jeremy White (WGR) heartbreakingly loses all 4 babies]

5 hours ago, Gugny said:

For his sake, I hope it's a C-section.

 

His sake?

[How many practice squad QB's ever became legitimate NFL QB's]

1 hour ago, SNICE said:

Warner never played in Canada but did play in Arena football.  Iowa?  Possibly another team too.

 

Warner started out in the NFL with Green Bay.  Per Wikipedia, "Warner was competing for a spot against Brett Favre, Mark Brunell, and former Heisman Trophy winner Ty Detmer. While Warner was with the Packers, the head coach was Mike Holmgren, the quarterback coach was Steve Mariucci, and Andy Reid was the offensive assistant."  Warner was cut outright, so no Green Bay PS.

4 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

And the problem is even on the practice squad, you aren’t getting game level reps against NFL caliber players. If the NFL could figure out a minor league, a lot more qbs would have a chance of succeeding.  We expect rookies to just light up the nfl right assuming and then get rid of them the second they stumble. 

 

One nit:  I believe the #3 QB runs the scout team (= this week's opponent) against the starting D on Thursdays.  If you only have 2 active QB's, that means your PS QB is up.  But I'm not going to argue that it's the same as real game playing time.

[How many practice squad QB's ever became legitimate NFL QB's]

4 hours ago, dpberr said:

How about Scott Mitchell?  He had three above average years for the Detroit Lions in the mid 1990s.

 

Before that he was Marino's back-up (not PS) in Miami.

[Sam Acho, DE signed.]

Beane keeps working that roster.  I expect to see he's worked out a Ristolainen trade any day now.

[Vlad Ducasse released]

There is a God.

[Can Christian Wade be the 53 man roster this year]

31 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Per my understanding of the international allocation program he is unable to make the 53 this season

 

Because all 8 international players tried out originally as free agents and were not signed

 

Then the international allocation program randomly divided the players to random divisions. The AFC east being one

 

Since Wade was allocated to the Bills he gets a free ride on the PS all year but is not eligible for the active squad

 

 

 

It sounds like the international allocation program is a paid internship.  But if a player can't be promoted to the active roster, what's the point?  To see if he develops enough to make the 53 next year?

[[Name Only Title] Feliciano and Ford]

Unbelievable.  This is a thread on the general topic, "the Buffalo Bills have too many competent offensive linemen to keep them all on their final roster."

[Bills working out OL Sam Young]

4 hours ago, buffaloboyinATL said:

To be honest, I wasn’t even sure Waddle was going to make the team. Young will be a serviceable camp body I assume. 

 

Yeah . . . pretty much what I thought.  And remember he's filling the spot of LaAdrian Waddle, not Will Wolford.

 

 

3 hours ago, SCBills said:

 

I don't know much about Feliciano, but Long was a good interior lineman prior to being injured and being forced to play Center for the Jets.  He's healthy now - Not sure if the staff sees him as a potential backup C, along with G.   He has shown the ability to be an average-above average interior lineman when healthy, and has experience at Center.

 

He got caught up in the inevitable Jetness of being injured and a NYJet last year so I give Long a pass.  He's no Pro Bowler and Morse is obvious the jewel in the crown here, but if Long is healthy he can play some.

 

And yes, anyone who wants to use the term "inevitable Jetness" is welcome to use it.

[Bills working out OL Sam Young]

Just wondering . . . at this time of year, 32 teams have 90 roster spots to fill.  When you sign a street free agent that nobody else brought into camp, how good . . .

[Just another reason why Rex and his crew was fired]

23 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

The jets: He took over a winning team added a couple players, enjoyed two good seasons. Then ran it into the ground. 

 

From living in North Jersey, let me just add:  yep.  You're dead on.

 

He also had a history of not getting along with (= undermining) the GM here.