DarthICE

They are not going to LA, they are not going to Toronto, they are not moving.

Guess what? Houston won.

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Uh no you are wrong across the board. OKC is Bigger than Tulsa which is Bigger than Buffalo.

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Well lets see, the guy doing most of the scouting during those picks is Modrak. Who brought him in? Tom Donahoe. Who hired Donahoe? Ralph Wilson. Who kept Modrak here after TD was gone? Ralph Wilson. Anyone getting the theme here?

CL nails it. CJ is getting paid huge money but Gailey is buying into some fans BS that he shouldn't have 20+ carries a game. Well that is BS, Feed him the ball over and over and over and let the cards fall where they may.

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and the hysteria you and many fans like you have is why the Bills suck. Ralph knows he has you BS'ed into beliving that. The Bills are one of the most profitable teams in the NFL, the NFL from a MONEY standpoint is NOT going to lose that guanteed money esp when a new owner can charge more ticket wise and the fanbase will pay it = more money for the NFL. Not happening.

Lynch will be a packer by Wednesday. The crap play the Bills have put up the last two weeks have the fanbase screaming at full throat already. The front office has to do something to make it look like they are trying to improve this team.

Can you and the fans that believe that put up some actual fact to support your hysteria? Here are some FACTS saying different. First, it will take a place for them to move. LA is NOT viable no matter how much the NFL wants it. They have never supported a team and right now there is no where else. Next a new owner will need 3 years to get a move going in this day and time. Next the NFL and the owners must OK it. No way in hell they do that. This fanbase will pay more in ticket prices to support the team. This fanbase in this horrible economy is one of the best when it comes to consistantly filling seats, something most other teams can't do as well (The SD game is blacked out in their area today BTW). With a new owner he will have to sit here for at least 3-5 years and prove to the league the team isnt viable before he is allowed to move it and then must have a place to move them to. BTW wasn't the Bills something like 8th in Net profit last year or something like it? This team isn't moving.

It will be all of the above. I think the NFL steps in and has something to say about moving.

Joe, after watching the ass kicking handed to us, you ready to concede yet that the media is right and the Bills suck?

How much are we paying Spiller? And he is just playing special teams and a 3rd down back? Hummm yeah great managment going on in Buffalo

Fans need to understand something, Ralph isn't going to fire Gailey. he will never in this day and time of Guaranteed coaches contracts fire Gailey in his first or 2nd year even if he goes 0-16 this year. He is too cheap. Plus no way his Ego lets him admit any mistakes

Huh? Bradford looks great for a rookie. He is going to have a hell of a career if they get some talent around him. Stafford will be good too if he can stay healthy.

I posted a very detailed post on this once but the facts are there for anyone that wants to go see them for themselfs. This team has sucked from the very begining with Ralph as owner and still suckes today. Outside of the Polian Era this team has sucked. Sucked before, has sucked since Polian had the reigns. Ralph has always thought personnel and coaching guys are a dime a dozen, uh no. The 100% correct Reality is this team will suck until Ralph dies. I say dies because the man refuses to sell while alive, his Ego won't let him. Now some hysterical fans will say some things like 'This is only a sport how can you wish such things'. Well I will address that in a moment (*). Others will say 'but a knew owner doesn't guarantee anything'. Well sure it does, it guantees they won't do much worse. 'But the team will move without Ralph'. No it won't. Too many want to keep it here. Also with this economy, name another fanbase that sells out as much as the Bills fans do? The NFL and a new owner will NOT let go of guaranteed money like the Bills fanbase generates. Now will they increase ticket prices some, yes they will have to in order to be competitive. But you know what? Hire a known good GM, a Known Good HC, draft well, overpay for a couple stud FA's and you can charge a ton more with this dedicated fanbase. (*) now for my earlier statement, I am a Bills fan, not a Ralph Wilson Fan. Met him a few times, don't like him. I HATE how he screws over the good fans of the Buffalo Bills. Some people will say 'Ralph wilson is the bills' BULL ****! NO OWNER is the org. the FANS are the team! Always have been, always will be. The first time I got to actually come to Buffalo was with my wife on our annaversery in 1993. Jerry Crafts was playing for the Bills and I spent a couple nights up in the VIP room in Jim Kellys Club. I hung with guys like crafts, Ollie Barnett, Thurman etal at Big Tree that weekend and was in the Locker room for family day on Saturday. But the thing that has always stuck with me more than anything were the fans. As you know I am a Huge OU fan so I go to alot of games, Buffalo is just like a college town. My wife and I like to stay in Hamburg because of how close it was to the stadium and how easy it was to get into Buffalo from there. Every where I looked there was a Bills jersey, sweatshirt, something. Everywhere I ate all I heard was Bills Bills Bills. Tailgaiting, it was like ' Hey guys want a dog'? 'Want a Beer or a Burger, come join us'. When we got to our seats we had a couple of tickets that used to belong to season ticket holders so the guys near us were like 'who are you'? When we told them we drove 16 hours one way from Tulsa they went nuts! We didn't pay for a drink, food, beer nothing the rest of the Game lol :-) My point is this, YES there isn't much to do in Buffalo, Sure the economy isn't great, but in all my travels across America, in Canada etal I can say in all honesty I have NEVER met a better group of people than Buffalonians and WNY. THEY deserve much much better from the ownership of this team that THEY love, that THEY support. To them it is NOT JUST FOOTBALL! This isn't 'just a friggin team'. It is part of their heratige, it is part of their LIVES! And all Bills fans, but esp those right there deserve much better. So yes I say, the sooner he is gone, the better. Sorry for the Mis spells, I am pretty fired up right now :-) God Bless

No Marshawn would NOT be a top 10 back in this league. He was over hyped coming out of college and it has been proven here in teh NFL. Jackson had no issues with the OL last year getting most of the playing time. Stop making excuses for the punk. As for as Spiller, YES he is an every down back, if not you don't pick a specialty player with a top 10 pick or you should be fired. Give the kid 25 carries or more a game, get him in the passing game. If not, then we screwed the draft up again.

He is still pissed that McNabb told the Eagles there is no way he would accept a trade to Buffalo

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Yeah he was. Was he an all pro? No, but the guy played his ass off and gave all he could to the Bills when he was here. and to be honest he was a damn solid player for us. I can tell you that every time I talk to him you can tell by how he talks about WNY he really enjoyed his time there.

LOL yeah he is still friggin HUGE

It was nice to catch up with him, its been a couple years since we talked. He made it up to camp for the first time in about 8 years this year. Took his boys, really likes the Rochester camp, but says Fredonia had its advantages as well. the players were really good about signing stuff and taking picks with his kids he really appreciated them. I asked if he was there when Chan got into those kids butts and he said no, but he believes it was the same ones that were there doing their act the day he was there. He says he likes Gailey as a coach, really likes Nix as a GM and thinks if the fans give them time can turn it around. I asked about the OL and he says he really likes the interior but it still needs some work overall. He thinks Spiller has a chance to be something really special in this league. Nothing earth shaking but nice to get his 2 cents.

Why? Poz is average at best.

Nope just the obvious stuff