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Jonah Williams

I have been a big Hockenson advocate. For everyone that likes Fant because he's a better athlete, The Iowa Hawkeye's are the most tradition rich TE producing school in the country. T.J. Hockenson started over Noah Fant in one TE sets. Its because he's simply a better player than Fant. He isn't as athletic but he blocks a lot better, he catched the ball more consistently than Fant(who drops a lot of passes). Who cares if you can run fast if you drop the ball. I went back and watched Travis Kelce's Cincinnati tape. He wasn't some fluid athlete in college in my opinion. He actually looked kind of lumbering if you watch his highlights. You also have to remember that he is just 21 years old. He hasn't even tapped his full potential yet. He does look slender for being 250 pounds which makes me believe he can gain another 10 pounds of muscle easy. Rob Gronkowski-4.68 Travis Kelce- 4.63 Zach Ertz- 4.76 Austin Hooper-4.68 George Kittle- 4.52 Those were the top 5 TE's in the NFL by receptions and yards last year. Seems like Hockenson's 4.7 is about right in line besides Kittle. I'm not saying the Bills are going to take him but he's a damn good prospect that everyone underrates because he didn't put up mind blowing passing statistics.

Sounds like a guy who wants to control the stories that are out there because he is a "religious guy" and probably has a good thing going in his community and doesn't want other "sources" painting a different picture about Dwayne and his family that would show them in a different light. Read the whole thing, definitely a different dude. Seems like Haskins would be a good fit for the NY media.

Or you didn’t really read and you have zero evidence that they would take him for fact. It’s actually a big difference in your case. 11 picks to be exact to fall out of the first round. That’s literally 35 % of a difference. Unless your Eric DeCosta or John Harbaugh I’m pretty sure you don’t know this as definitively as your trying to portray. I’m not saying he is going on the 2nd. If I’m the GM am I investing a top 10 pick into a guy with a heart condition as a difference maker for my team while paying him millions and hoping? My answer would be No.

Apparently end of the first means fall out of now.

He has a heart condition no one is taking Sweat in the top 10. Someone today said he could fall to the end of round 1

I used to watch ESPN all the time but now once you get past the 2nd round it’s nothing but commercials, roundtables, interviews etc. I want to see the analysis of every pick that’s why I watch the draft. I finally made the move to NFL Network because they still do that on Day 3. ESPN will only do that when a big name College QB gets taken in the 5th

To me it’s pretty clear try we’re using pick # 3 as bait for a QB trade up. My thought process is they must have talked to all the teams in need of a QB and they were either told that their not interested in moving up to 3 or that the Jets price is too high. So the Jets have now shifted to saying how much they love Ed Oliver and if you really want him you better come and get him. Basically talking straight to teams like Buffalo, Tampa Bay, the Giants, Detroit to see if they will now take the bait

Well its clear the Bills would prefer either Williams or Oliver at 9 but if both of them are off the board its either gonna be OL, Hockenson, or Trade down, especially with news of Gary sliding because of production and medicals, Sweat having medicals as well.

I know I’m in the minority but I’d draft Burns as a SAM LB and 3rd down DE. We need a replacement for Zo. He has almost the exact height/weight as Edmunds did and it takes him away from the wash a bit more. I also think he more than showed ay the combine that he is very comfortable in a 2 point stance and dropping into coverage

The guy I'm pounding the table for if I'm a scout and looking for a sleeper is Jordan Brown a CB from South Dakota State. 3 year starter, 6'1 205 pounds 4.5 40 39.5 inch vert and a 10'8 broad jump. Fits any defense....will need to be more physical in the pro game but he has a real chance to be a long term starter and will probably be a 3rd or 4th round pick.

For whatever reason, his tweets wouldn't embed on here for me, so I went with the other one.

This!!! Everyone forgets how good Carter was in the preseason. If he didn’t get crushed and tear his ACL he would have made the team. It’s also the reason the Bills put him on IR instead of giving him an injury settlement and cutting him. If he bounces back from injury, I think it’s Cory Carter who’s your punter not Boroquez. Nonetheless should be a decent competition.

Wyatt Teller would have to pass through waivers to get to the practice squad. A guy who was a 5th rounder with multiple starts and only going into year 2 is not going to be bypassed by 31 other teams with the lack of Oline depth in the NFL. Ike Boettger who the Bills tried to pass up onto the PS was snatched by the Chiefs, only to return on the 53 man roster after the Chiefs cut him. You have 3 options with Teller Keep him on the 53, Cut him, Trade him. I think 1 and 3 are the most likely one

I love all the assumptions just reading through. Idk what the guys thought process is but not everyone loves Los Angeles, not everyone loves Buffalo. Different lifestyles for different people. You know whats probably going to make his decision. Money and who’s going to give him the best opportunity to make more money in the future.

Kelvin Fisher was with the Bills during Whaleys time

My question was more hypothetical since you talked about giving up extra draft capital which the 4th and 5th rounders. I understand it’s not going to get the deal done. It was a counter to your original point

Looks like the Bills are doing their due diligence on CBS in the 2nd-3rd round range

It won’t happen, not because the Bills wouldn’t like too but because another team would pick him up on waivers before he could get there. You have to remember the team liked Ike Boettger and wanted to put him on the practice squad and tried to sneak him in there and the Chiefs grabbed him and he was an UDFA 1st year guy

He’s not falling solely because his combine numbers weren’t good. There are a ton of rumors he has character concerns and was the worst interview of all prospects at the combine

I don’t think they would take him but I dont like this mentality of a player. Plus I think it hurts him saying something like this. He’s basically saying after 5 years you might not have me anymore

Tbh it’s great you look in studies but Beane has never once said he looks at that stuff. I do think analytics drive them Moreso than previous regimes. Yes the Bills only have 1 3rd, but they have 2 4th and 2 5th and an extra 7th. So in your theories, would it be okay if the Bills traded 40, the higher 4th, and the higher 5th because they have extras?

You don’t think the Bills would trade up ahead of the Patriots to secure a Noah Fant or Irv Smith for an extra 3rd round pick? I could see that as a strong possibility. Your talking about a GM who traded away 2 2s and a 3 in just last years draft to secure the guys he wanted. He also has traded up for Zay Jones and Dion Dawkins.