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  1. 27 minutes ago, Logic said:

    Eight divisional bubbles or 32 team bubbles. Only way forward.

    This^^^^^^

     

    What many seem not to take into account is that the other sports managed to complete their seasons playing IN THE SUMMER TIME.  And two of them in a bubble, while baseball did it by shortening their season and having the flexibility of playing doubleheaders to make up games.

     

    Without bubbles and strict isolation, the NFL will not complete this season.  Right now players are going home to families and girlfriends who are out in the public.  It is inevitable that they will be exposed even if they are doing their best in avoiding the public themselves. 

     

    If they were smart, they would let the games play out this weekend and have an emergency plan ready to implement that involves shutting down the league for two weeks to isolate players and essential staff, and restart in bubbles as suggested by Logic.

     

     

  2. 13 hours ago, klos63 said:

    2- it was a catch. It's not impossible.

    How can you say Kroft didn't have possession, yet say the defender did?

    weak OPI call as well.

    It was weak, but also totally unnecessary.  That was actually an awesome ball placement.  The DB under played it, and it was exactly where it needed to be for only Kroft to highpoint it.  The last view of that replay made it clear.  Kroft never gave up possession.  He had it first, and never gave it up.  EOS.

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  3. 23 hours ago, ScottLaw said:

    WHy do people give a *****? 

     

    They ruled it no good and the kicked sucked. 

    And of course, therefore completely unworthy of even a modicum of general interest or curiosity as to whether the refs may have blown a close field goal call? 

     

    I myself would find confirmation of that at least a little noteworthy because I wouldn't have thought that call was one that had much of chance of being missed.  How hard is it when your standing right under it and the weather is perfect?  But I guess that's just me. 

     

    Finding out that the had in fact blown the call may actually be interesting enough to start a debate on whether they should be deemed reviewable, no?

  4. 1 hour ago, No_Matter_What said:

     

    Agreed. We were extremely lucky with injuries last year and people overestimated influence of our facilities imo - I guess it might play a big role, but luck / variance has lot of influence too. And we couldn't expect it to last forever.

     

     

    To be fair, no one was able to access those overestimated facilities this year until training camp time.

  5. 1 hour ago, Bill from NYC said:

    What happened in the NY Nursing Homes was not a ridiculous conspiracy. I have several friends who lost both parents this way, but; since this does not fit your political narrative you will dismiss it. I guess that we should leave this alone.

    You are incorrect.  I do not have a political narrative.  I seek the truth and facts.  I did not question anything you stated regarding New York nursing homes.  I only responded to your citing of conspiracy theories trying to support the debunked notion of inflated COVID numbers and perhaps the nonsense regarding Biden's mental health and his son being a thief.

     

    However, for whatever its worth, you might want to read this report that debunks the relationship between nursing home admissions and COVID deaths attributed by many to those admissions in NY.  I'm sure you will most likely dismiss it as fake news, but it seems quite thoroughly researched, and both logically and factually supported.  I would welcome reading your reactions, but it might be difficult to demonstrate why their conclusions are incorrect based on the facts and the timelines.

     

    https://www.health.ny.gov/press/releases/2020/2020-07-06_covid19_nursing_home_report.htm

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  6. 14 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said:

     

    This response is super aggressive. I'm not really sure what I said to deserve to be insulted. If you ever wonder how this whole situation got so political, or why there is so much animosity, I'd suggest taking a hard look in the mirror. 

     

    In any event, your response largely confirms what I said in the first place: Florida did better than New York. First, as you point out, Florida's testing protocol was far superior. Second, Florida did a better job of treating its COVID patients. Big picture aside, what Florida really did different was emphasize keeping high risk patients protected.  Something New York obviously didn't do--I'm sure I don't need to bring up the whole Nursing Home fiasco.  They knew young people could sick with relatively little consequence (key word there is relatively), whereas they needed to do whatever necessary to protect the sick and elderly.  This is part of the reason the mortality rate in Florida is so much lower. 

     

    I appreciate the "excuses" that you are making for New York, but none of it means that Florida did not do a better job than New York.  

    I was not making it political.  I am merely demonstrating that your conclusion that Florida did a better job than New York treating COVID cases based on a simple comparison of percentage of fatalities from number of positive cases is false.  People should be more careful of how they use data to support conclusions that at least appear to disparage one group from another.  Don't you agree?

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  7. 28 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

    No, nor did I mention the flu at all. You question was rather stupid tbh.

    You were going on about false attributions of COVID as the cause of death when it was really something else to inflate the numbers, a conspiracy for which there is zero proof BTW. 

    Not only would this require some sort of mass conspiracy between health care professionals across literally thousands of different local jurisdictions, it is sort of amusing in light of the fact that certain states' executives have been caught red-handed trying to alter data to make things look better than they are.

     

    But as to the question, I only ask because the data for seasonal flu fatalities is FAR less accurate than the data being collected for COVID fatalities.  The CDC does not require the reporting of EVERY flu case in the country like they are collecting for COVID.  In fact, they have only a few select participating hospitals in regions around the country who are responsible for testing for flu and reporting fatalities.  The CDC then extrapolates from those limited numbers to the rest of the country to produce a statistical range of numbers that are quite wide.  The range is eventually honed using excess fatality data gathered from the previous years for each region to identify those extra deaths that were most likely caused by the flu.  People die at home from the flu (and this year COVID) with no test to confirm it.  This data is then used to tighten the range considerably.

     

    BTW, the excess fatality rate since mid-March indicates that the number of under-counted cases is well over 20,000 nationwide, and is not reflected in the current number.

     

    The reason I asked that "stupid" question is that people who are willing to believe ridiculous conspiracies are often the same people who will use far less accurate statistics to support a narrative then the more accurate data that doesn't.  So not SO stupid of a question, really.

  8. 23 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

    How many of these deaths were due to what happened in NY nursing homes? How many deaths were falsely attributed to covid19?

     

    These might be good questions to ask the dementia patient running for president, or even his degenerate thief kid.

    Well, if I was into conspiracy theories, and right wing propaganda blather instead of facts, I might agree.  But I don't, so I'm not interested.

     

    Just curious, but do you actually use seasonal flu numbers in arguments to demonstrate how COVID-19 is just like the flu?  Inquiring minds want to know.

  9. 1 hour ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said:

     

    48 deaths per 100,000 v. 169 deaths per 100,000

     

    I don't know the exact figure, but Florida's mortality rate is between 1-2%, and New York's was like 5-6%. 

     

    There is no debating Florida did significantly better than New York. 

    This is another typical failure to understand the data that you are so blithely comparing as if they are otherwise equivalent so you can draw a conclusion that is not supported by the data.

     

    The most blatant error in your syllogism is failing to appreciate that, during the early part of the pandemic, there were barely enough tests around to test the people showing up at hospitals, let alone test people who were having more mild symptoms or none at all.  And even large numbers of those people being admitted at hospitals weren't tested, because doctors knew what they had when they showed up.  These people were not being counted because test kits were to precious to be used simply to confirm what hey already knew. 

     

    In the present, testing has become far more widespread and available, which means that many times the number of people are being tested than were being tested back then, which dilutes the fatality rate per number of tested cases accordingly.  It has NOTHING to do with how the medical profession in NY was treating their patients vs how Florida's health professionals were treating theirs.  Not only is the comparison of deaths per "positive case" between the two moments in time apples and oranges, but no doubt medical professionals all over the country as well as the world have benefited from what was learned from medical professionals sharing their treatment experiences in what works and what doesn't.  So that is yet another flaw in your comparison of the two percentages.  Of course the outcomes of cases are going to steadily benefit from the experience gained from the earlier ones.

    15 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:


    0.1% of the population is actually 331,290 people.  

    Yes, but he said to save .01%.

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  10. 2 hours ago, Victory Formation said:

    What if a player gets sick though and the entire team gets it? Not saying it’ll happen but it could.. corona is a nasty virus but the whole entire world shouldn’t stop because of it.. players had their chance to opt out and some did.. but if we keep shutting things down to save .01% of the population it’s going to wreck our economy.. how long until we enter a situation like the Great Depression?... 

    Do you even know what .01% of the population is?  That is 33,129 people.  The recorded number of dead is now nearly 6 times that, and once the CDC revises those numbers based on excess fatality data (as they do when calculating seasonal flu deaths), it will be at least 7 times.  And that occurred almost completely outside of flu season over just 5 months, and with some pretty draconian measures in place!!  Wait until October, when the real second wave hits during actual flu season.  I hope that I'm wrong about that.  But predicted that we would be at 200,000 dead by the beginning flu season, and I don't have any doubt now that we will be.

     

    While it is impossible to determine how many would have died had we just ignored it and let it sweep over the country like the narcissist in the White House wanted to do, I have no doubt but that it would be at least double the number we have so far.  This can be seen easily by comparing the first wave, which had to be tamped down by a full blown shutdown, and what happened when certain states couldn't wait to reopen and prove it was all unnecessary, only to see the death rate rush right back up to over a thousand a day in a matter of weeks.  It can also be seen from the numbers in Europe and Asia, which have remained low and relatively under control since the initial wave. 

     

    There should be little doubt that, had there been intelligent and unifying leadership from the top at the outset, we could have been far more prepared.  Accurate testing and contact tracing could have been implemented far earlier by which to identify hot spots quickly that could have been tamped down more locally instead of shutting down the whole damned economy.  The economic impact of this thing could have and should have been at least minimized while saving even more lives than already have been.

     

    I hope that we get lucky, and this thing mutates to a far less virulent strain heading into winter.  But I'm not holding my breath.

  11. 1 minute ago, hondo in seattle said:

    In regards to Diggs, he has a right to be concerned.  Either the NFL needs to cancel the season or take effective precautions.  It can't be football as normal - that just isn't responsible.

     

    I'm not certain what the 'effective precautions' might be but there's another thread about modified football helmets.  Since Covid 19 is spread primarily by respiratory droplets (and, maybe, respiratory aerosols) a modified football helmet like the one below might help.

     

    NFL-2020-Chicago-Bears-COVID-helmet.png?resize=620%2C400&ssl=1

     

    https://www.americanfootballinternational.com/is-that-what-an-nfl-covid-19-helmet-could-look-like/

    I want one!!

  12. 3 hours ago, BigBillsFan said:

    Since the NFL has decided to promote  political agendas outside of being a US citizen and chose to promote groups hostile to my family than I have decided to renounce my fanhood in the NFL.

     

    I hope many of you decide to join me and if you continue to watch just because you need a way to escape do not have any financial contributions to watching games and watch game solely in sports bars so that the NFL cannot directly contribute to the ratings.

     

    Laughably I am a “Minority” and the reason why it’s laughable is that one’s voice should be based on the truth of the statement and not on the basis of skin color.

     

    As a Native American I do not find the Buffalo Bills name offensive and while our history may have had moments of embarrassment we are stronger when we look for the truth of why our country is as great as it is and why people of all races and creeds wish to come here.

     

    I support black lives, rights and families but anything in support of the Black Lives Matter movement is an insult to families, black or whatever race, who built this game and passed it on to their children with their mission statement to abolish the nuclear family and support for Marxist ideology. 

     

    If you think that you can escape the consequences of believing that everything is to be criticized and nothing loved and than trust me eventually everything will be persecuted including you.

     

    The powers of the league and society in general know that they can abuse after you because you are the hard-working and you are the people most responsible for your own personal actions and love your downtime so they think that they can bully you to accept getting kicked.

     

    Whether you plan on watching this year or not let the NFL know how displeased you are. This is how they get to bully you. They use the threats of complaining which as responsible adults we see as childish and adolescent but we forget these people hate us and they hate our families and don’t ever underestimate wicked people.

     

    The cheap insults I expect from petty people  shouldn’t bother you. They just know that you are a good person they can use insults whereas you find them to be morally reprehensible.

     

    Never let weak bullies corner you. Fight back now. It is our Independence. God bless America

    Given the level of pettiness of this kind of post, I won't even bother to add my petty response. 

  13. 4 hours ago, kdub said:

     

    I agree that this both points will decrease the effective death rate, but to definitely say that the death rate will not increase with a drastic increase in cases is hopeful at best.

    Exactly.  Certainly it doesn't mean that, even if the RATE goes down due to some improved treatment protocols, etc., that the absolute number of fatalities won't go up considerably with a enough of an increase in the sheer number of cases.  Put another way, if the number of daily new cases doubles from today's number of 35,000 plus. to say 70,000 per day, while the new fatalities may not also double, it doesn't mean that they won't be significantly higher than they are today, or even what they were during the peak back in April/May, when the number was like 13,000 per week, on half the number of cases.

     

    Also, the gains made in better treatment protocols in fact, may be swamped by the problems that can be caused by shortages of ICU beds in states that don't have enough to handle the increased hospitalizations that will come with a doubling of cases. 

  14. 7 hours ago, jethro_tull said:

    One thing to understand is that most of the media are not doing a good job at reporting information that is qualified to be meaningful to us.  

    For example it seems daunting when there is a rise in confirmed cases- but we need to understand is that more people are being tested than ever before and the new case numbers are not a good indicator on what actions are needed.  

     

    The best indicator IMHO are the rate of new fatalities.  This number is fairly consistently tracked and would show a trend of the actual cases both confirmed and unconfirmed.  

     

    For example, the US 14 day trend is + 32% new cases, but down 31% in new deaths.  That is a big deal and a very encouraging sign.  

    Actually, the more relevant indicator is the rate of new hospitalizations and percentage of available ICU beds.  Those are on the rise big time as available capacity is shrinking in many states.  There is about a 3 week lag in increased or decreased cases and fatalities.  It will be at least another 10-14 days before you start to see whether fatalities are remaining flat or on the down-slope notwithstanding those increases in cases.

     

    Cali is actually over 6000 new cases for today.  Texas exceeded 5000 for the first time yesterday and are close to that number again today.  I hope that the resulting fatalities do not increase with the same rate as the rate of increase in new cases.  But that may not matter if the new cases begin to explode exponentially.  Cali will likely take some extreme measures to rein things in soon if they go up much higher, but FLA, Texas, Arizona, Georgia, Louisiana, etc. will probably wait until the numbers are really out of hand.  And when beds fill up, that will increase the fatality rate because you won't have the ability to handle the influx of the really sick.

     

    I was hoping the weather and long days were going to tamp the transmission rate down for a few months, but it does not appear to be enough right now.

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  15. This is why Josh Allen is going to be a success.  He has always been behind the curve, given his rural location and lack of exposure to QB camps and higher level coaching as a kid.  But from the start, he has been the guy who would not take no for an answer.  When he couldn't get a scholarship, he went to Community College.  When he only received two scholarship offers (one retracted when he visited Wyoming) based on scores of letters and tape he sent out, he took his one opportunity and elevated as best he could to illustrate his natural talent. 

     

    And since joining the Bills, he has been a relentless student and worker and has continued to elevate his game, both mentally and physically.  On top of that, he is natural born leader of men.  I believe that his drive and unwillingness to never take no for an answer will lead us to Superbowl wins.  And give credit to the management now present within this franchise for recognizing this and drafting him.  It's going to be a fun ride.

  16. The guy has serious power and already knows how to use it.  Get that kid in the high tech weight room and he is going to be hard to move and will create serious pressure on the QB. He has much to learn, but will have lots of opportunity to do so with a great veteran room. I think he is going to be a huge edition to our defense as he develops. 

     

    . I had no idea there was a Carioca pass rush!

  17. I’m looking forward to having a reliable RB to whom we can give the ball on 3rd and 4th once in a while so Josh doesn’t have to sneak it every time.  I’d like see Josh’s exposure to big hits significantly reduced this year. 

     

    He should be both more effective, as well as less vulnerable to injury, by reducing his need for carries.

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