Bill from NYC
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I went to the Jags game without a strong sense of where this team would be. It's pretty obvious now we are just picking up where we left off. Even if we won the game, I would still say we are lloking like a 6-10 team again.
The shame of it all is that it looks like Tom Donahoe bought a bunch of bad merchandise. We just don't have the players. Bledsoe? It's over. Just deal with it. Like someone said on WGR today, we've lowered the bar so far for Drew, we're happy when this one-time Pro Bowl isn't losing the game for us.
The line? Putrid. Kicking? A joke. Defense? No discipline. Coach Mullarkey has sh*t to work with. OL Coach McNally is already washing his hands. Unfortunately, we have to wait another 3 years, after Mullarkey gets fired, before anyone considers Donahoe getting the boot.
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How is McNally already "washing his hands?" Did I miss a quote or something?
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Sarcasm, old friend.
He doesn't play DT either.
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So do rookie head coaches in their NFL debuts.
I understand the frustration, but there WERE some good things happening yesterday.
At least it wasn't GW and Gilbride costing us the game. MM will get better, and so will the team, or so I hope.
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Believe it or not, I agree. As I stated in an earlier post, the OL, while not stunningly great, played as if they knew what they were doing, and it was nice to not see a Bills QB practically killed on every play.
I am starting to actually believe that McNally can make a decent OL out of this bunch, and THAT is saying a whole lot.
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Sorry folks, but someone here has to raise the bar for our starting QB and supposed team leader. Bledsoe only turned the ball over once, he was only sacked once, he generally got rid of the ball quicker, and he generally did a better job of scanning the field for his receivers. Congratulations, Drew.
Now look at the score board. Only 10 points. Only 1 touchdown. Few sustained drives of any considerable length. Countless 3rd down opportunities wasted. Several opportunities, in particular, wasted toward the end of the game to burn time off the clock and keep our tired D off the field.
I don't mean to go off on yet another TBD anti-Drew crusade; I just want to point out that lately here we have really lowered our standards for this QB in question. If we truly want the playoffs this season, then we should demand more from Drew. Super Bowl caliber teams have QB's who rise to the occasion - especially in the final quarter and in the final drive - to WIN a game rather than NOT LOSE IT.
Based on last year, a lot of posters here seem to believe that the first week of the season has zero relevance. I disagree. I think today's game will prove to set the tone for the rest of this season - a lot of low-scoring, close games that more often than not end up as losses because our team has taken on the personality of Drew Bledsoe, a man of great character and dedication who nevertheless doesn't have "IT" - that special something people here have called "heart" but which I think of more as "confidence." Maybe JP Losman has it, but Drew doesn't.
Prove me wrong, Drew...
Agreed. Drew should have broken up that last pass in the end zone. Also, he could have provided more of an inside pass rush.
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I am here to tell you....so far, so good. The Bills OL actually looked as if they knew what they were doing yesterday.
I am not saying that they had a stunningly great performance, but they did their jobs, and even MW was able to hold off pass rushers most of the time. Furthermore, there is NO reason to think that they cannot improve into a decent line.
Kudos Coach McNally! Keep it up and make a believer out of me!
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Very true. It was especially painful to see idiocy from Fletcher, because from where I sat, he played a great game. Even the DL, which failed to produce sacks, was applying pressure, which is almost as good.
I am not as upset as the posters in the other thread.....yet. I am going to write it off as a rookie head coach playing a tad too conservatively, and keep my fingers crossed that he has what it takes to motivate the talent that is on this football team.
Oh, and am I sure I would be this calm if I was actually AT this game?
No, not at all.
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>>>You have to go long every once in awhile. Even if when the play shouldn't work, on occasion it does like when a DB tries to pick it when he should just bat it away or when you get an interference call.<<<
This is 100% true. There was NO reason not to send Evans deep at least once. I like what I see of MM, but he is a rookie and will learn.
Also, aside from the penalty, I thought CV palyed a decent game. It is true... The Bills finally have a professional level RG! Even Big Mike played OK, as did Teague.
Truthfully, I am numb. It was always SO easy to explain a Bills loss, but the usual culprits (the OL) did reasonably well, or at least OK. The picture is still cloudy, but I am thinking that the problem yesterday was a vanilla game plan.
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Denny was the starting LDE on a D generally thought of being one of the better Ds in the league (you have to be good to play with an O that scores no TDs) and which did produce a #2 statistical ranking in the league. This sounds like at least some value to me. He is obviously no Bruce Smith but are the only choices be bruce or be a bust?
Not at all FFS, and he DID start, this is true. But he was the weak link, right?
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That is kind of the whole point, TD reached to draft Denney then drafted a 2nd round DE the next year. I think if a 1st/2nd round pick does not start after the
first year, if they are not a bust, they are not getting much done. A 2nd round
pick not starting the 3dr year looks pretty bad.
Remember, Denny was a bit older to begin with and is 27 years old now. He should be well into his prime I would think.
SCS, your points are valid. What did we give up when trading up to get Denney, a 4th round pick? If so, there is every chance that the 4th pick would have out produced Denney to this point.
The good news is that he still has a chance, however slim, to develop into a DE who can make big plays and apply pressure.
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What is your definition of a bust?
- A bust gets cut from the team. Denney wasn't cut.
- A bust cannot start. Denney could easily start over Kelsey.
- A bust cannot beat out higher draft picks. Kelsey has consensus 1st round talent.
- A bust isn't worth anywhere near the money he pulls down. I don't see anyone crying about his salary.
- A bust doesn't play. No reason to think he won't get at least 40% of playing time.
- A bust doesn't contribute. Denney may ably back-up two starters.
It's difficult to call a player a bust when coaches essentially consider then 1B and the "starter" 1A. For all we know it's for this week only.
Let's see how he performs before he's a declared a bust.
I think that being a value or a "bust" depends in large on where one was drafted.
For instance, Peerless Price was a value in round 2. John Holocek was a value in round 5. Moulds was picked late in round 1, great pick. How about PW as an undrafted free agent?
In his first draft in Buffalo, TD nabbed Henry and Schobel in round 2, then Jennings in round 3. Compared to those picks, Denney has been of little value.
See the difference?
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No, no no....
come on people...have we learned nothing from the Patriots?
They've selected CK as the starter probably because they like him as a specific matchup against the Jag's RT better than RD. Don't be surprised to see RD get the "start" in other games, based on the matchup. This is what the Pats have done for the last 3 years. They always have rotating starters. They fuggin started Jarvis Green at DE in a playoff game last year simply because they knew he could do a few particular things against his matchup better than Warren, Hamilton, or McGuinest could.
Rotating Dlinemen means that some games there will be different "starters" but both will play.
Ryan Denney is not a bust. Erik Flowers was a bust. The two are miles apart. A bust is a guy who can't play at the pro level. Denney can play at the pro level. He is a very good run stopper, and sheds blocks well. He's getting better and better. He only has 3.5 sacks, which is why he's criticized.
It's foolishness.
You raise good points, but it is more than the sorry number of sacks. He does not even bring much pressure to qbs and he should, with guys like Big Sam and PW occupying blockers.
Almost everyone on the board states that OL and DE are their concerns this season. Denney is the bulk of the reason for concern at DE imo, and MM seems to agree.
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Probably so and it is a shame. I like TD as much as anybody at cap management and free agency, but he needs to improve his draft record.
Hopefully he will do so with a solid performance by MaGahee.
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Jennings will NOT be carried as a "franchise player" next season, because the cost would approach 8 mil per season. It is over 7 mil in 04.
They might apply it as a bargaining ploy, but TD will not ever give that kind of guaranteed money to Jonas Jennings for 1 season imo.
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Actually, it is radically and cynically different than what the previous (Democratic) administration actually did. They paid down the debt, produced confidence in the economy and rode the resulting longest peacetime economic expansion in history.
No pretending there, AD. This all actually happened.
Do you think Newt Gingrich helped just a little?
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This is VERY good news!
DEs are some of the highest paid players in the NFL, right there with LTs and QBs. The contract may seem steep, but will look good in a couple of years, especially if AS continues to develop.
Btw, does anybody remember what Winstrom got?
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As a matter of fact he brought up cutting spending continuously. I watched much of it and it was amazing. The repubs are trying to paint a good picture, and the dems are whining about the tax cuts and how bad things are.
AD, why does everybody call this a cut for the "rich?" My taxes were reduced and I am anything but rich.
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I am hoping that they will be average.
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Bill you seem like a "Homegrown Democrat" to me??
Enjoy!
His Minnesota boyhood and the putative values of his state allow novelist and NPR favorite Keillor to conjure up a heartwarming case for liberalism, if not necessarily the Democratic Party platform. "[T]he social compact is still intact here," he writes of life in St. Paul, summing up attacks on that compact in a Menckenesque rant: "hairy-backed swamp developers and corporate shills, faith-based economists...." Liberalism, Keillor declares, "is the politics of kindness," and he traces his own ideology to his kindly aunts and his access to good public education, including a land-grant university. Though he criticizes Democrats for losing touch with their principles, as when they support the drug war, he catalogues "What Do-Gooder Democrats Have Done for You," from civil rights to clean air, though he acknowledges, "The great hole in the compact is health care." "The good democrat," he declares, distrusts privilege and power, believes in equality, supports unions, and is individualist—"identity politics is Pundit Speak," he notes, which might get him in trouble with some interest groups. "Democrats are thought to be weak on foreign policy... but what we fear is arrogance," he writes, in a chapter notably short on prescription. Near the end, he offers another potent monologue, if not a rant, about September 11 and Bush's "Achtung Department" (aka Homeland Security). It doesn't all hang together—heck, Keillor's so loosy-goosey, he begins most chapters with a limerick—but call this Prairie Home Companion meets Air America.
In a book that is at once deeply personal and intellectually savvy, Homegrown Democrat is a celebration of liberalism as the "politics of kindness." In his inimitable style, Keillor draws on a lifetime of experience amongst the hardworking, God- fearing people of the Midwest and pays homage to the common code of civic necessities that arose from the left: Protect the social compact. Defend the powerless. Maintain government as a necessary force for good. As Keillor tells it, these are articles of faith that are being attacked by hard-ass Republican tax cutters who believe that human misery is a Dickensian fiction. In a blend of nostalgic reminiscence, humorous meditation, and articulate ire, Keillor asserts the values of his boyhood—the values of Lake Wobegon— that do not square with the ugly narcissistic agenda at work in the country today. A thoughtful, wonderfully written book, Homegrown Democrat is Keillor’s love letter to liberalism, the older generation, John F. Kennedy, the University of Minnesota, and the yellow-dog Democrat city of St. Paul that is sure to amuse and inspire Americans just when they need it most.
Thanks, I guess.
I am anything but a democrat. If you lived in this neck of the woods and observed those who purport themselves to be "liberal," perhaps you would not be one either.
EIL, it is the NY Liberals who come after bells on ice cream trucks, smoking in BARS, and loud air conditioners, this after an attack which killed thousands of our citizens. They also turned out in record numbers to vote down a qualified African American in the most recent election for governor, this in an election where they voted in Hillary and a white attorney general.
Liberalism (generally speaking) sounds good in theory but sucks when put into practice. I find the American left to be differing combinations of intolerant, idealistic, holier than thou, racist, anarchistic fools. The RNC sort of upholds my statement, no?
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>>>Didn't Hillary sit on the WalMart Board at one time?<<<
Yes, and it was very honest of you to bring this up.
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Congrats!!!
I remember taking my oldest to Kindegarten as if it were yesterday, and she is now a college junior.
There were kids crying, but my daughter was looking forward to school and marched right in. The problem was not her, it was me. I was so emotionally shaken, I needed time alone to get myself together.
Enjoy these precious days.
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O-line & running
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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I thought the Offensive Line was noticeably better, especially at pass blocking.
To clarify, they appeared to play an average game, something I have not seen very frequently in the last 10 seasons.
After seeing such poor play for so long, I was quite skeptical that McNally would do much if anything to make something good out of this mess. Well, judging from what I saw on game 1, I am thinking that the OL will get better as the year goes on. I am thinking/hoping to even see an OL on the Buffalo Bills football team that will be slightly above average by the end of the year.
Therefore, I abdicate my throne as "King of all Offensive Line Whiners", which should make a few happy on this board.
