Bill from NYC
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1) The raiders are said to be offering a #3 to the jests for Lamont Jordan.
2) The jests are said to be holding out for a #2.
3) If Drew is as bad as you guys think, this season is shot.
4) The raiders beat us, but they suck. I think that we all can agree on this. They will be drafting early.
5) Travis looks like stevestojan this season and will, in all probability, be gone next year.
Based on the above, I propose an imaginary trade. We ship Travis and our #3 to the raiders. In return we receive their #1, a pick that we can put to use on blocking for Losman, yes Losman. I am a fan of Drew, but Buffalobart raised a great point today. Drew may have his brains beaten in ala Kelly and RJ, due to playing behind an OL that sucks. He may be shot. This line will continue to suck unless the Bills make serious moves.
I remind you that Jennings will almost certainly be gone in 05. As proof, I offer both his comments and the Schobel extension. We need to draft OL, and bring them in as free agents so that Losman does not get killed.
In any event, I post this as a fan seeking conversation. You can blast and curse me at will, I dont care. You people have been kind and supportive to me for so long, I am a fan of both the Bills, and you guys and girls on TSW.
GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!GO TBD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!GO SDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PS: It would be a GREAT trade.
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WOAH, Congrats Bro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How is her IQ?
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That is a HUGE point, and one which I have raised (to the point of nausea, I know
). The Bills front office, including both TD and Mr. Butler, neglected the OL so badly, that the careers of qbs (including that of Jim Kelly) were cut short. These guys are so badly beaten up, it is hard to imagine yet alone expect productivity.As Albany NY stated, Evans will have to be truly great for his pick to make sense. We now have a fast wr who will be speeding downfield while his qb lies on the turf, bruised and bloodied. They could have taken Losman and kept the first pick in 05.
Or, will McNally, the guy whose teams have given up 57 sacks in the last 18 games, change this sad scene? I am not holding my breath.
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Bro, I am not ashamed to say that I was a HUGE supporter of RJ. He had the arm, size, accuracy, and he could run like a friggin dear. Once in a while, I sometimes catch myself thinking that someday, he will get it together and be a great NFL QB, because of all of those amazing skills.
That said, the guy is out of football. He just cant get it done. Sad indeed.
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So maybe I'll give it a shot.
First, how many sacks has Mike given up this season so far? I assume that you've reviewed the game tape for the past two games carefully in order to support this position?
Also, I have watched the two games and I have watched Smith and although he has struggled at times with assignments and run blocking (as any first year starter will be expected to do, he actually performed quite well.
You see, the thing is you guys love to throw all of this theory around as if you know what your talking about, but the reality is that you don't. Most of those sacks were caused by exploiting the Bills blocking scheme up the middle. Two guys can't block three. Last time I checked I don't recall Smith's job assignment including the need to block more than one guy.
The most offensive of the sacks (at least three of them) were failed blitz pick-ups by backs and Hbacks. A few more of them (at least two of them) were coverage sacks where Drew simply hung onto the ball to damn long and should have thrown the thing away. But you are now telling us all how Smith is a failure at guard and so is Williams at tackle. Without knowledge of the Bills blocking assignments on any particular play, without knowledge of what the Raiders were doing defensively on any particular play, you are merely engaging in mental masturbation in explaining to us all how we need to fix the O-line.
You guys make me laugh! Rico states with authority that Williams is a bust because he can't pass block or run block, yet he cites no stats on sacks allowed for the games played this year nor does he cite any other stats that would possibly support his position, such as a comparison of success between runs to the right and left, or breakdowns of plays that failed due to a failed block by the guard vs the tackle on the right side.
But please, by all means keep us entertained with your solid expertise in O-line play and personnel evaluation.
BB, certainly you will agree that there are differing opinions on, and terminology of just what constitutes a "bust." Then, to what degree is a player a "bust?" Here is my take:
When a team plays bad enough to acquire a #4, both the team and their fans have a right to see the selection have some positive impact on a team. Wrt Big Mike, here we are arguing about whether or not he was "tossed like a rag doll" or just flat out beaten by a semi-unknown linebacker.
I tried as hard as I could to isolate on Big Mike vs the raiders, and he did OK from what I saw, but I was only able to focus on him approx 1/2 the time.
My bottom line is simple....If he was a 3rd round pick, I would be OK with his play, but he was not. Again, he was a #4 in round 1, and is taking up WAY to much cap space as compared to his production. In hindsight, I am sorry he was selected. My guess is that you are too. So, is he a bust? All in all, I would say of course he is.
All we can do is hope that his play improves, if only to a level where we are not speculating as to whether or not he can even play RT instead of OG.
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Hogboy (the slob), you are truly the greatest troll on the internet.
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How do you expect to be consistent on offense without a scheme? We need to come up with a scheme that has personnel with which we can have balance success running and passing and only change this group in extreme situations such as goaline or 3rd and 10 plus. Either we need to run from a spread formation with 3 WR or be able to pass with either 2 WR and 2 backs or 2 WR and 2 TE sets. Like I’ve said times before you can pretty much predict the call based on our personnel in the game whether it is a run or pass as there is no uncertainty for the D. The offense never seems to try to establish a flow in any aspect. And since Drew is probably the worst play action QB in the league why bother with his half@$$ fake attempts.
I think this team would be better suited to go back to 2002 style, utilizing 3 WR formations and spreading the defense out, especially if the utilize Evans speed over Shaw. Then teams would play more cover 2 against us. This would all work fine if the Bills run the ball consistently with this group on the field. With 2 backs or 2 TE’s in most of the times the D cheats their safeties up and play the run or blitz, either getting a sack or making Drew panic and dump the ball off. In this style our WR’s aren’t even given an attempt to be a part of the game as the whole offense sees to be dink and dunk with a few runs thrown in here and there. With 3 WR in the game there would have to be an extra DB in to cover them, taking away some run support. In the 3rd quarter with this group in we had our best drive that started at the 5-yard line. On that drive we missed the 4th and goal.
Everybody keeps crying about our O-line; we ran the ball pretty well against 2 good run defenses. As a matter of fact if they had continued to run off tackle and if Henry had changed cleats earlier we could have had much better run production. Now here comes the hard part: most of the sacks come from blitzing and 1) Drew is not recognizing it quickly enough and 2) the backs and O-line aren’t adjusting. It is not as if our lineman are getting consistently beat one on one but more missed assignments and Drew holding onto the ball too long. As a matter of fact if we switched QB’s in yesterdays game to results would have been opposite as numerous times Gannon was pressured but he made plays under pressure; if he were Drew the Bills would have gotten 5 sacks yesterday. Drew and the backs must handle recognizing and picking up the blitz or we will see it again and again.
Sorry, you are flat out wrong. Not only that, this is the most worn out excuse one could imagine, and has been since the inception of this board.
Ostroski didn't suck. it was the "scheme." Fina was versatile. He didn't suck. The "scheme" did. Last year, we had talent on the OL. The coaching sucked. They needed a new "scheme." Year after year, this is what many say, and seem to believe.
Please wake up. Since 95, the Bills have used countles schemes. There offense has sucked regardless of which scheme they used. Why? Because they cannot block, nor will they be able to for the forseeable future. Jennings (who is average) will be out of here. MW is in all probability a bust. The LG sucks and Teague is average at best. CV is good but not young. That said, TD gave away the first round pick in 05. Good luck getting a LT!
McNally was to be our latest "scheme" savior. I even bought into this nonsense for a week. The truth is, teams that he has coached have given up 57 sacks in the last 18 games. Nobody has a worse record n terms of sacks allowed.
The Bills on offense is a weak, slow unit. Our feature back is prone to fumbles, cannot block, drops passes, and has an IQ of about 3. They need blocking and some good drafts, but alas, we have no first round pick in 05.. It will take many years, and might require new management, perhaps even new ownership.
The new "schemes" didn't work.
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Thanks for the valid info. I am serious.
That said, do you care to address THIS season?
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Yeah that too!
To all the Henry backers, I'm not trying to pile on Henry just to vent. I just think that the only chance we have of beating the Pats is to put in McGahee and hope he delivers what we think he can deliver...producing touchdowns from inside the 5. Henry isn't getting it done on key running plays. It's a major reason we're 0-2.
I dont think you are piling on. I think that Bills fans are blindly loyal to almost every Bill except their coaches and quarterbacks.
I guess this is part of what makes Bills fans so special, but the fact remains that Travis Henry is stinking up the field this season, and we have a first round pick waiting to go.
Everybody is screaming for Losman. What is it that makes Travis untoucheable despite poor play?
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Number 1 problem? No, not at all. Problem? Absolutely.
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Tell me who is the man who has yet to punch it in from the 3, 2 and 1 yard line? Who's the man who let a very catchable ball go through his hands for an interception? Who can't keep his balance to save his life? C'mon moron, I'm waiting for your answer.
The Bills did not draft McGahee number one to sit his ass on the bench, the Bills are 0-2 and Henry has played a major part of this team's offensive failures. But since you're a moron and a Henry oppologist I'm not expecting you to understand.
You forgot to mention going the wrong way on a screen, and missing blocks.
You think we have problems now? Wait until Travis starts coughing it up.
Get in there Willis!
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First I want to say that Henry is a good guy and plays his fanny off. But I truely think the Bills should sit Travis against the Pats and start the unknown weapon AKA Willis McGahee. Of course Malarkey should not say anything to the press and let Billy B. plan for Travis for two weeks. This is our only chance. Why are we trying to spare Travis's feelings here? Why should he start after putting up two stinko performances in a row, costing us points by not being capable of scoring inside the five, and having balls bouncing off his hands for interceptions. If Malarkey starts Henry it will be the beginning of the end for this 2004 season. Teams do not make the playoffs after going 0-3. Drastic times calls for drastic measures. Bench Henry and let the whole world see if McGahee is the playmaker we've been waiting for since Thurman Thomas left One Bills Drive (Henry has obviously hit his ceiling) . The Pats have no clue about McGahee, it is our only ace in the hole we have left. Play it Mike!
Agreed, good post.
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Good question NG. In my case, I would still be calling for Henry to be benched, unless it was he who came through on these hypothetical big plays.
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There is a quote out there somewhere from a LB playing from a team that playe the Bills in preseason.
When asked about who the Bills should play, this LB said (paraphrasing) "It is CLEAR who the better back is. Henry and MaGahee arent even close right now. Id rather play against MaGahee ANY day of the week".
Henry is THE MAN right now.
Well, this "MAN" has averaged 3 yds. per carry or thereabout, dropped passes, batted another in the air for an int., missed blocks, gave up sacks, come up short on TDs and critical first downs, and slid all over the field like a fallen ice skater.
He is playing WORSE than Drew this season. It is time to see if another TD 1st round pick (WM) is a bust. My guess is that he is a far more complete back than Henry.
It is time for Travis Gump to sit on the bench.
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Just a temporary setback. It will NOT continue. We have McNally. His teams have given up 58 sacks in the last 18 games, but you just wait. He is going to give the Bills a virtual wall of steel, talent or not.
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TD passed on McKinnie and took a RT with a weight problem. Then, he traded away a #1 pick in order to draft a wr and a qb.
Say what you will about Drew, but TD has in fact worseneded the Bills OL with a combination of poor drafts and neglect.
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The camera work was lousy yesterday. I was watching Big Mike on every play I could, and it seemed to me as if he was doing OK in pass protection.
The sacks that I noticed semed to come from Jennings and big number 75, who stood alone looking bewildered, as his qb was getting slamed to the dirt.
They even ran a few good plays to the right.
Did anyone get a better look?
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i agree with every point but #2. a bag of hammers was what he hit the raiders with. the same 20-some carries would have yielded half the yards with mcgahee carrying because he can't YET wear down a defense. not that the bills "wore them out," but travis became more effective, for the most part, as the game wore on.
but whatever. as somebody said last week, i wouldn't care if they blew this team up and started over. it's just disgusting.
Gotta disagree my friend. If he was "hitting the raiders with hammers," they must have been rubber toys, and the blows were softened as he was falling on his dumb ass, deflecting a pass for an interception, and missing blocks.
If it is time for JP, it is also time for MaGahee.
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>>>2. Travis Henry out, Willis McGahee in. Although Willis still isn't 100 % in the speed dept., he can block. Henry can't block the sun, let alone any player in the NFL. Plus his constant falling down just shy of the endzone or 1st down marker is just maddening. Can't catch cold, let alone a pass. Too many negatives. Dumber than a bag of hammers. <<<
Bravo Mark! Sadly, that is as real as it gets.
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Thanks. I assumed it was "steel hands" Shaw, or "dropsies" Henry.
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Who dropped the pass for a first down that Drew threw into his stomach as he was getting sacked? Was that Josh? The announcers never said who it was.
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Rant One...
Question: When Travis Henry is NOT fumbling the football away, he is
a) Averaging 3 yards per carry.
B) Missing blocks and allowing sacks.
c) Dropping passes
d) Falling short of first downs and touchdowns as the season "slip slides" away.
e) ALL OF THE ABOVE
(Hint...the answer is in caps)
You Drew bashers may be right, but Losman is hurt. MaGahee is ready, and should get more than 2 carries, no?
Rant 2:
I believed in McNally...for one week. Lo and behold, the Bills still cannot block. Hey Coach, do you think that we can keep the sacks below the 49 that your giant OL gave up last year? Even that would bean inprovement for us!
Rant 3:
Remember the "IS Denney a Bust" thread? The answer is an astounding YES. Yes, he is a bust, and Kelsay appears to have speed and a reasonable chance to make plays.
I am too worn out and tired to continue, and will spare you further moaning.
GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Ed, one day, I would truly like to hear the details of your "conversion." If you ever have the time, send me a PM and let me know how you changed from an apologetic liberal to a conservative patriot.
Either way, the change was/is a wonderful sight to behold.