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You really think JPL is a big reason ? I am not so sure. While I agree that handing the keys to JP full time and expecting no drop off was too optimistic. But I don't think JPL was too big a reason. The other aspects dropped off way to precipitiously for JPL's performance to make a significant difference one way or the other.
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TD has not done enough to guarantee his job, that is for sure. Frankly, I think what is going to happen is that TD is fired and Modrak takes over, and keeps MM for one more year, gets rid of Tom Clements and maybe Jerry Gray. That is a prediction, not necessarily what I would do but it's not a horrible move.
{Just catching up with the posts after a few days of travel.}
I will like it if this scenario plays out. I believe MM should get another year and this makes changes without doing a full house cleanup. We have to maintain some consistency and if a new GM implies a new coach I do not want that (unless that GM is Ron Wolf :-)).
One thing not discussed much is that we also need to find a long term OC. We have had too many in the past few years and that causes instability also.
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i suppose the typical response to that will be, "give willis mcgahee a passing game and he will be a better RB".
which is it? I know the root of the problem is the offensive line. but provide those guys with a quality offensive line and i think the passing game is still going to suffer due to Losmans complete inability to complete a simple GD Freakin' 5 yard out pattern.
Might sound juvenile but - I would rather have a runnning game for those 5 yarders and JP consistently throwing long strikes.
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I've listend to all the comments and assumptions and speculation recently about MM/TD and the changes that are on the way.
While a GREAT deal of people insist that there is going to be a complete overhaul at OBD, I think more likely there will be 1 to 3 key changes over the coming months. And one of those ought NOT be to fire Mularky.
MM had a better team to work with last year and scored a 9-7 season. With poorer tools he has done a worse job. Now a great deal of this is down to MM for sure, but the influence of TD is there and we would do well to tweak at the top and let MM have one more year. If the new GM is unhappy with MM after that year he can move MM on...
In all reality tho - we need an experience HC to come in - and there aren't going to be any sensible choices... So we'd be faced with long-time OCs or college coaches - none of whom I believe would be an upgrade over MM.
I think we need a new OC and a new DC and a new GM. Some of that can be fixed with internal promotions (Whyche OC? Modrak?) others can't (maybe Modrak isn't a great idea)...
I for one believe MM should be retained one more year - and I don't think it is a forgone conclusion that he leaves at the year end.
I also support keeping MM and canning TD. He has just had 2 years to prove himself with a dismal set of players. He should get another year at least with a talented roster.
Also, am not convinced that every GM comes in with the intent of replacing the HC.
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Personally, I believe a coach needs 3 years to be fairly judged. The 1st year is a pass because he might not have all his players. The 2nd year there should be an improvement and the 3rd year you can have a clear indictation of whether they can coach or not. With MM, I really like the wayhe rallied the team last year. However, the dropoff this year is startling. Add to the fact the Moulds and Adams situation, I think he should be gone. And the fact that he admits he is calling the plays, only reaffirms he should be fired. If he didn't, then perhaps Clements could have be the scapegoat. Anyhow, is there anyone who think MM should be back? I would like to hear you opinion. Plus, can someone explain to me why you give a coach a 5 year deal who has never coached before (another bad move). You give him 3 tops. Where they really that worried about him leaving? Man, losing is frustrating.
I vote in favor of keeping him.
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Completely agree ! At this rate, we will let everyone go from this team and start anew.
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first of all, i have no problem with football players being asses, being that about 85% of them are. that said, if you can't see that the guy is a pr*ick, then, well, you're not looking very hard. thurman was a pr*ck too, but he was better than mcgahee and appeared to want to play in buffalo. he also didn't issue forth la di da responses after bills losses and seemed to hav e a vocabulary that was larger than 250 words (and i'm being charitable in giving mcgahee that much credit).
do i want to mcgahee to be playing for the bills? yes -- he's a pretty decent player and could put up some big numbers in the right system. do i think he wants to be here? put simply, no. i'm sure he hates it in buffalo and is trying to get out. it probably won't do him much good -- his U compadre, edgerrin james (another prize as a human being), has been militating to get out of indy for about 4 years, but he's still there.
That is an awful lot of conclusions and a very strong sentiment set up by rumors. Please explain why you think he is a pr*ck (apart from the 'best back in football' comment). Even assuming you have heard him enough to make a judgment of his literary skills, who cares how weak his vocabulary is ?
How does anyone know whether he does or does not want to play in Buffalo ? This question is different from whether he wants to play on a team with a losing record.
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Kelly, dude, let us both give up. Group think has set in deep and there is no way we can steer this towards a logical argument. EM has the benefit of entitlement.
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And I think JP also accepted blame for that play.
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No, had he done what I suggested there would have been no hoopla and it would have all been taken care of in house. Nobody would have even known that Moulds woulnd't have been starting (or playing) until gameday.
And if you don't think Ralph flying into to okay a decision is a sign that the coach doesn't have much power I don't know what to say to you. This situation would have been taken care of by the coach and the GM anywhere else in the league.
What I was implying is that MM has not been given this authority by RW. Also, TD seems to have been cut out of the action (public anyway). So I think blaming MM for creating a 'mess' is incorrect. He was handling it diplomatically and RW decided he had to come in and tell EM whatsup. Finally, how would everyone react if EM's suspension was announced on game day ? MM is as it is being roasted for dragging this issue on !!
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Isn' that exactly what he did sans the fine ? And if RW wants to fly in and speak to EM personally, that does not speak of MM's weakness.
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I agree with both buftex and Bill from NYC on this one. I posted something similar in an earlier thread but it is apparent the board guys and media are in a EM-love, MM-hate mode.
http://www.stadiumwall.com/index.php?showtopic=36401
I have repeatedly asked the question but no one seems to answer it. Why do people here think that MM caused confusion by not handling the situation properly ? Give me some sound logic. All I can see is the media which is incredibly pissed off that MM did not keep them updated regularly. They think it is their right to know about each and every word that is said between the coaches and players. It is the media capitalizing on the generally frustrated sentiment that is arising from poor on-field performance. They need a sensation, stories where there aren't any, superlatives when none are deserved.
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Bravo for what exactly ? For blowing a situation out of proportion ? A simple disciplinary action by a coach suddenly becomes an 'amateurish attempt to felx his muscles' ? What would Jerry rather have - a full season suspension of EM so he can be labelled a great disciplinarian ?
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This may have been the final straw of a season filled with them. Case in point, Stories coming out that the veterans would play harder for KH than JP. Therefore the change to KH with wins resulting over poor teams. If memory serves EM was one of those vets. In Sunday's game, we started out like a house of fire, then apparently something happened that boiled over into what we have today.
Em has been a great receiver for a number of years, but if he truly believes in the Bills first, he would adhere to the game plan as devised during the week.
Hopefully we will get the whole story eventually.
Agree. Our offensive production plummeted after he took himself out. Which directly resulted in a loss. I say MM has every reason to be pissed for that reason alone. If EM wants to be admired as a veteran player, he must be mature and self-less to deserve that tag.
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I'm sorry, but the real world is a little more nuanced than that.
Bill Parcells is such a great HC because he demonstrates and has honed the skill of not being one way all the time (he always is a hardass) but he is good because he works and operates using both extremes. He is a hardass and a disciplinarian a significant amount of time, but he also has a great sense of humor and really makes life a party a significant amount of time as well.
One can get short-term performance and benefits out of the HC instilling a reign of terror. However, eventually it gets a bit old living with this uncertainty and NFL players are set for near life fiancially and have skills in many cases which they can get a bunch of money for if they make it to the free-market.
My sense is that I agree with you that the Bobby Shaw cut may be a big deal for us here, but ironically the effect may have been that Bills like MW and the rest are playing every man for himself rather than being a TEAM like the Pats.
Agree with life not being extremes. But that is not my point - I am not saying that MM is a genius or a total idiot. What I am saying is that he may have a philosophy which he is imparting to his team. Those with the program will stay and play while those that balk will be disciplined or let go. When Bellicheck built the Patriots it was a different mentality of every player playing his role correctly and the team will do fine. It was different at the time and eventually became successful. Parcells has way too many years of experience and he might be the Phil Jackson (LA Lakers) of the NFL (part-coach, part-psychologist). What we do not know yet is what MM's plan is and how successful he will be.
Personally, I value hard work over everything else and if MM is striving to get that from his players, I support him fully. We do not know what the long term plan is but I am willing to give him the benefit of doubt and see what happens. he is just in his second year so it will take some time for the results to show. TD on the other hand has had 5 years and has not done much to take this team to the post-season.
Lastly, I really fail to understand why the media is ripping MM for handling the EM situation badly. What has MM done wrong ? He first said that he has talked privately to him and then requested a suspension. In the press conference, he stated the bottom line and said the chapter is closed there is nothing more to discuss. He basically told the media the end result without discussing the internal details. And that is fine by me. For all we know, there may be a substance abuse situation here. Only time will tell.
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I bet that if we let JP go, Green Bay will pick him up. And fate would be so kind to that great football city to have history repeat itself .....