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  1.   On 4/23/2020 at 3:57 PM, Deranged Rhino said:

     

    Correct. 

     

    And who's shocked JA/SectionC3 is once again back to his SOP when it comes to arguing: say something fake -- get BLASTED for it, then rather than admit he said something wrong, he calls others misleading and runs away. 

     

    Because he's a coward who's here to troll, not have conversations. He's not worth the time to engage. 

     

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    Comments like this will not get you removed from the "snowflake" and "washed up psycho" lists. 

  2.   On 4/23/2020 at 3:41 PM, Boatdrinks said:

    Agreed, they’ve just changed the definition of prepared. Originally it was to not overwhelm the health care system, and to have enough ventilators. That was accomplished ( Cuomo-land aside, they had issues due to his incompetence but the President got things done)so now the goalposts have moved. Prepared now = no Coronavirus cases and no deaths. All deaths are laid at the feet of Trump, not of individual hygiene or overall healthiness/ genetics. It’s liberal logic !  When things don’t go your way, change the expectation after the fact. 

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    Fake news.  Prepared doesn't mean no cases and no deaths.  Only you have said that. 

  3.   On 4/23/2020 at 3:25 PM, Gary M said:

     

    You don't know me, please don't project your feelings on me.

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    Based on some of your comments here, I don't care to know you.  I enjoy disagreement.  I like the give and take.  It makes us all better and more thoughtful.  It's healthy for our society and for our country.  That's how America is supposed to work.  I'll go back and forth with Chef Jim all day.  I might disagree with him, but he's generally pretty thoughtful and respectful.  And I respect that.  (SoCalDeek probably falls in the same category; we see the world differently, but that's perfectly fine.  I enjoy the reasoned back and forth.)

     

    I don't respect your approach here.  It's wrong.  You know it and I know it.  

  4.   On 4/23/2020 at 2:59 PM, Gary M said:

     

    I never said Kung Flu is funny, actually it is very dangerous.

     

    I just said it's not racist, because Kung Flu is chinese and Chinese is not a race

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    If I called COVID the "Congo Cough" or the "Box Street Bug," everybody in Buffalo would know what I'm saying.  The same principles apply to the Confederate flag.  It's a nice story that it stands for states rights, and maybe in 1861 it did.  But it doesn't today.  And anyone who flies one or sees one knows it.  

     

    Applying that logic here, while "Chinese" may not be a race, you're using the term in phrase in a way to communicate racism.  Semantical gymnastics don't hide that. 

     

     

  5.   On 4/23/2020 at 2:37 PM, Chef Jim said:

     

     

    Please give me the list of world leaders that were really prepared for this.   Those that knew EXACTLY how do handle this.  Hindsight is NOT your friend.  

     

    Oh he had no clue like most at that time. You do remember that time right?  Most everyone didn't know what the ***** what doing on or where this was headed.  Kind of like today wouldn't you agree? 

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    I agree that he was clueless.  And that's kind of the point.  Based on all of the available information, including a memo by Peter Navarro, he shouldn't have been so ill-informed.  There's a difference between not having complete information (probably where all of us are still today) and ignoring the sufficient information available for our review (one of Trump's missteps here).

     

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/04/07/timeline-trumps-coronavirus-response-is-increasingly-damning/

  6.   On 4/23/2020 at 2:11 PM, Gary M said:

     

    Was that said while the WHO was still lying for the Chinese and denying it was spread human to human, or after they fessed up?

     

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    I don't acknowledge that the WHO lied for the Chinese.  I do, however, note that the prez made the statement in question four to five weeks after the WHO noted evidence of human-to-human transmission. 

     

    https://www.who.int/china/news/detail/22-01-2020-field-visit-wuhan-china-jan-2020

     

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-vice-president-pence-members-coronavirus-task-force-press-conference/

     

    Points like the one you just tried to make are why you're on the "fake news" and "hoax" lists. 

  7.   On 4/23/2020 at 1:39 PM, Gary M said:

     

    They wont answer

     

    @Warren Zevon  @SectionC3 @Q-baby! @BillStime @daz28

     

    please explain in regards to the Kung Flu (aka Covid-19)

     

    A:  what actions POTUS should have taken

    2:   when he should have implemented each action, exact dates please

    #:  and what the key factor that would have triggered each action.

     

    #orangemanbad

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    Asked and answered.  By me.  Search for my "February 1" comment in direct response to you earlier in this thread. 

  8.   On 4/23/2020 at 1:26 PM, TH3 said:

    Ya...Well you are confusing attributes with results. Nobody in the US has wanted to do business with him since the for a long time - except I guess NBC. After a  string of bankruptcies with airlines, real estate, universities, food...etc...$ people wised up and they figured out the only person getting ahead in his deals was him. He lucked out in the 90's by being so far in debt...the only way his financiers could get a return was to ride it out. His recent financing has either been from out of the country or fake. Fake - meaning that many "Trump" developments throughout the world carry his name only - they aren't really his. 

     

    In good deals - every one makes money - not just one guy. Being POTUS isn't about personal winning...its about everyone winning. Pretty much all trumps actions throughout this disaster is to make himself look good....and you guys eat it up. Lets look at some of his results:

    • US has 30 percent of the world's cases and deaths in CV19  - One can say - looking at the scoreboard - we have the worst response to CV19 considering our resources of money and brains. We have the best roster and a 6-10 record. 
    • Testing capacity to get economy back in line - nope 
    • New health care plan - nope
    • Budget balanced - nope
    • Debt reduced - nope
    • Wall built and Mexico paid for it - nope
    • Jared Middle East peace - nope
    • Jared testing - wha? 
    • NK nukes - yup
    • China deal? - Forget about it - will never get done
    • New Iran deal - nope
    • FoxConn factory - vapor
    • Economy built on massive govt debt - that will work in the long term - oh yea
    • Coal industry saved - hardly
    • Washing Macihnes built in Indiana - nope
    • Hydroxy whatever...the only thing cheaper than oil is the 35 million doses Jared bought

    But you guys love him because you are some blend of racist, ignorant, brainwashed or myopically rich. Your relate to him because he blames everyone else for his problems...instead of looking at your own performance.

     

    You love him because he pisses off the "elites" or "libs". All this was great  when he was in a position where nothing was really expected of him - when he did not need to actually produce anything of substance other than "owning the libs" .....He was able to ride a wave of US productivity and low interest rates that juiced the market for 3 years.

     

    Now the US and World could use an actual leader - and that he is not.  

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    You just nailed it.  I struggle to figure out what he's accomplished.  Judges, I guess, and dividing the country, for sure.  Renegotiating NAFTA, I suppose.  And I guess that he had a first phase trade deal with China.  But on balance, a whole lot of broken promises and nasty rhetoric.  That's the sum of the Trump presidency. 

     

    Re: the bolded.  Thank you.  I'm glad somebody else realizes it.  All we have on the economic side of things is 3.5 years of dead money in an S&P index and a boatload of new debt in exchange for our trouble.  The whole thing is a house of cards, which really shouldn't have surprised anyone given this guy's business record.  

  9.   On 4/23/2020 at 1:20 PM, Gary M said:

     

    If they are going to ask a question they should know the subject!! Instead of just asking gotcha questions.

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    That's sort of the point.  Nobody knew the subject because the president didn't allow the question.  It very well could have been (and, given the context, probably was) a question about oil production and the president's negotiations with foreign producers to cut supply to protect the American energy industry.  So before cutting off the question, as the president did, let's at least determine what the subject of the question is. 

      On 4/23/2020 at 1:21 PM, SoCal Deek said:

    The press is NOT doing its job. In an Information Age we’ve see the press devolve into a bunch of gossip mongering hacks. I guess it’s just what it’s become...but I’m assuming they’ll treat the next Democratic President the same way. Sure they will....right?

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    They probably won't treat the next president the same way, you're right.  And that's because the next president probably will be more truthful and candid than the current president, meaning that there won't be nearly the antagonism between the press and the next administration, Democrat or Republican. 

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  10.   On 4/23/2020 at 1:00 PM, Gary M said:

     

    Yeah, last week the guy asked about oil, POTUS asked what the current barrel price was and he didn't know, "Get back to me when you know"

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    Another fine example of a presidential dodge.  The question was something along the lines of, "Can I check in on oil today?"  Instead of allowing a substantive question to reach the floor, or answering the "pregnant" question (yes or no would have been appropriate), the prez responded with a question about the price of oil per bbl.  That type of response invites more direct and forceful questioning.  If you want to blame the media for doing its job, fine.  That's where the prez wants you to go. 

  11.   On 4/23/2020 at 12:45 PM, /dev/null said:

     

    I disagree.  They are professional activists with a byline

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    Perhaps, and this is just a thought, if Trump was more truthful and answered questions directly then the briefings wouldn't be so combative.  By way of example, Trump said something to the effect that he knew that coronavirus wouldn't return as strongly in the fall.  Twice he was asked for the basis for that statement.  Twice he dodged and said something non-responsive.  

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  12. If data eventually supports the theory, then we may have finally found an instance in which smoking saves lives.  Amazing.  

     

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-8246939/French-researchers-plan-nicotine-patches-coronavirus-patients-frontline-workers.html

      On 4/23/2020 at 12:30 PM, SoCal Deek said:

    Have you watched the daily briefings? The media bias is on full display every single day and it’s now become obvious that they’re being purposefully combative and antagonist...and they simply don’t care. These simply aren’t professional people. 

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    "You weren't called!"

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      On 4/23/2020 at 10:38 AM, Joe in Winslow said:

    This board's been infested by progressive trash. Worst part of COVID.

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    Fake news.  The human and economic costs of COVID are far worse than the presence of new people on an Internet message board who challenge your misguided political positions. 

      On 4/23/2020 at 10:11 AM, Kemp said:

     

    If he hadn't already shredded the Emoluments clause in the Constitution, it wouldn't be a big topic of discussion. The family wants relief after having illegally received funding for their properties. Just another layer of slime.

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    I think you forgot that the Emoluments clause is "phony."  Trump said so himself. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/10/21/donald-trump-mocks-constitution-emoluments-clause-phony/4055162002/

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  14.   On 4/23/2020 at 12:14 AM, Albwan said:

    lol ....the tibs virus has mutated into this chuckle head.

     

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    More name-calling like that and you'll get yourself on a list sooner than later. 

     

      On 4/23/2020 at 12:16 AM, SoCal Deek said:

    So? What’s your point? Sounds like an example of things working correctly.

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    I had the same thought.  It's OK to be worried about a link in the supply chain, but still confident in the chain in its entirety.  There is sound logic to that point. 

      On 4/23/2020 at 12:16 AM, daz28 said:
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    I'll qualify my support for that post.  Good for Australia.  Bad for Sabres fans.  I've been punished enough.  

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