philburger1

No, it don't think that is this case. We just have a really good system (not perfect, but the best there is) and we work real hard at keeping that way. Just look at all the religions and races that live here. And in peace for the most part. In the middle east, if you are the wrong type of muslim you are blown up, if are not a muslim you are blown up. In Africa, if you come from the wrong tribe, you're whole family can be raped or killed. Just think of the Women's rights movement and the Civil right movement of the 60's. If those happened in other parts of the world, they would have lead to bloody civil wars. Sometimes I think we sell ourselves too short, instead of thinking we are all that.

I 'm not sure. I am sure there would be some of that kind of stuff.....but it just seems the people there just went right into that mode. The next day. After three weeks of that stuff, sure, you'd go crazy. But the next day? And I just heard a reporter that came back from there talking about murders, rapes, and roaving gangs with weapons. Seems a little more mean spirited than people just fighting to live. Shooting at at helicopter that is bringing you food? No, I am sorry, there is something more at work here. Is there large gang element there or something? I've been thru hurricane fran in Raleigh, and i know it is nothing compared to this, but we didn't have power for nine days. The city seemed to pull together, not pull apart. Same with NYC after 9/11. Again, this sh-- started the next day, we are not talking about in being 20 days of this junk

I have only heard of really bad lootings and shooting in New Orleans. Not so much the other areas. Wonder why that is?

He offered first aid in order to try and show off and say "hey look, I have oil" Can't wait see how Chavez handles a hurricane is country.

Actually I was thinking they would hit some place far away from New Orleans, while all our resources are down there...

That is what I thought about the sniper as well. Why the hell else would he do it. They may not have done anything yet, but the "Chatter" is that they want to make 9//11 the day of another big strike. Our resources to respond would be all tied up.

I was just listening to the news about all the national guard and army personal heading to New Orleans. Anyone else think our "friends" from the middle east might take advantage of the distraction to do something truly awful to mark the 4 year anniversary of 9/11? It is less than two weeks away. The relief efforts will be going full steam well passed then

How about free gasoline from Kuwait? If it weren't for the U.S. they would all be dead or in prison. How about free oil from Iran? We gave them aid after that big earthquake kicked their ass.

So your bitching about Bush isn't partisan? If my post was cookie cutter yours was the whole damn bakery.

Well, he did try to pass his energy policy over 4 years go. You know, stuff that called for more refineries and domestic production. Don't you think that stuff would have been helpful this week? Nope, it was more important for the Dems to block his agenda. Never mind they had nothing else to offer. I suppose the hurricance was racist, too. I am waiting for that next.

Maybe France could tackle that one. After all, it won't fire back.

I think there is a comet that might hit the earth around 2030. I wonder how they will find a way to blame Bush for it?

Yep, and easy to secure as well.

Soccer=RJ

A call from the leaders of Indonesia maybe? After all the help we gave them it would be nice gesture. At this point I would settle for a lack of gloating about it.

We need some more places to refine it too.

Lack of compassion from the Islamic world.....yeah

There you go. My point made crystal clear. Wonder if they thought the Tsunami and the Iran Earthquake were part of the "Global Jihad"??

The correct point is made that all modern theocracies are Islamic. In fact, they even have a league of self-professed Islamic countries. When challenged to come up with theocracy based on another religion, the best any one can come of is the Vatican (which really isn't a country, no army, no olympic team etc) and the mandatory swipes at Christians ( and Mormons) by listing Utah and "Red" states as countries. But of course, Christians, and their self-center charity work that helps anybody who needs regardless of what religion they are, are great targets for the moral relativists in the crowd. Another question for you, have you ever heard of an Islamic charity sending aid and workers to areas that weren't populated by Muslims? The Salvation army helps who ever needs it, they don't ask if your are Christian before they give you a hot meal. Plus, they end up getting killed for the kind acts as well Seven Christian Welfare Workers Killed in Karachi Shooting Suspected Islamic militants entered the offices of a Christian charity organization in the Pakistani city of Karachi, and shot seven people dead. An eighth man was critically injured, and an office assistant was beaten. Workers were tied up and gagged Police said two gunmen armed with pistols entered the office of the Idare-e Amn-O-Insaf, or the Institute for Peace and Justice, at around 9:00 am local time. They tied the workers to chairs, put tape over their mouths and shot them in the head at point blank range. Karachi Police Chief Kamal Shah said police found eight empty shell casings, one for each of those shot. He said five of the dead were found seated in a main room at the office, and the sixth was tied to a chair in the bathroom. Six of the victims were killed outright and a seventh later died in hospital. An eight man was hospitalized in critical condition. Doctors said that he faced permanent paralysis of his left side from a head wound. All seven of those shot were Pakistani Christians. A ninth man -- an office assistant -- was beaten by the assailants but was not shot. Karachi's police chief said that investigators had tried to question the man but that he fainted and was placed on medication. Shah said that the police are attempting to determine how the gunmen got into the office, which had an electronic door that could only be opened from the inside. The attackers apparently left the scene without arousing the suspicions of people in adjoining offices, and the carnage was only discovered an hour later when one of the charity employees arrived at work. A doctor whose offices are next door to the charity said that he saw the gunmen. "They were wearing shirts and trousers and were clean shaven," he said. A senior police official quoted by AFP said that the attack was "meticulously executed," and appeared to have been well planned. "They knew how many people were inside and they knew the layout of the office," he said. Charity provided aid to both Christians and Muslims Idare-e Amn-O-Insaf is a welfare organization supported by both Protestant and Catholic churches. The Institute has been in operation for 30 years, working with poor Christian and Muslims to press for worker's rights, and organizing programs with local human rights groups. The Institute's offices, which are unmarked, are on the third floor of Rimpa Plaza, a 12-storey block in downtown Karachi. The organization, which subsists on donations from Christians and private individuals publishes a magazine called "Jafakash" (Hard Worker) dealing with human rights and labor issues. The organization employs Muslims as well as Christians.

Maybe they could get a chant of "Border Patrol! Border Patro" going...

If you consider Utah a country, I think you need some help

The Vatican and Utah? Wow, Five thousand people total.

Islam is the basis for all of the religious based governments in the world. No other religion runs a whole government. Nice try though!

Wow, look at the islamic countries on that list!

Something we both can I agree on. Time to go to the red cross web site to donate money. PS: Most americans would gladly give the shirt of their backs to help their friends in England. But a lot of us have had it with the hate being preached in the Islamic world. I heard one the London Bombers lived in England for 20 years. The whole time he and his family lived off of social programs paid for by english tax payers. A reflection of how we spead our resources is a needed thing...