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  1. 10 hours ago, Beck Water said:

     

    https://www.nfl.com/news/jets-earn-first-ever-win-eagles-jalen-hurts-latest-qb-embarrassed

     

    Could just be me, but when your team is 2-3, I'm not sure it's time to be talking about "embarrassing all of" the opposing QB

     

    The Jets have beaten Buffalo, Philly, and should have beaten KC (if not for the thumb on the scale from the league).  Their QB stinks and their offense is mediocre as a result.  I'd say he has pretty good grounds to tout his defense.  

  2. 5 hours ago, Virgil said:

     

     

    1 - Wentz - I could talk about how great JT a was, but I think that Wentz barely completing 50% or his passes for just over 100 yards should tell you the story of how a 40 point loss went. Wentz had a few good passes and managers to Houdini out of a sack, but how often do you see games today where the quarterback isn’t relevant.

     

     

     

    This right here is as far as you needed to go to tell the entire story.  Wentz not needing to pass to win this game is why we lost the game.  I watched Leslie Frazier throw his players under the bus and say, "it wasn't the personnel grouping, it was the personnel".  While that may be true, that right there is a prime example of why Leslie Frazier is not a head coach in this league.  If the players on the field aren't getting the job done, who's responsibility is it to either put different personnel in the game or change the plan to fix the problems?  Hint... not the players.   

     

    I'm no coach and I didn't sleep at a Holiday Inn.  But, I think it's reasonable to assume that if you are getting the ball stuffed down your throat for 2 or 3 quarters, it might be time to switch out of nickle and put some bigger bodies in there to stop the run and force them to beat you by throwing the ball.  Just a thought. 

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  3. That's for our GM to decide.

     

    I'll never understand the value of knowing you have the wrong man running the show, but sticking with him anyway in the name of "continuity"

     

    What does that accomplish, other than putting off even further the chances of winning a title? It aint happening with Chan Gailey as the HC.

     

    When you realize you have the wrong man, you do something to get the right one. Doing anything else ensures you yet another losing season, which will ultimately be a wasted one.

     

    If you think you have talent, you fire the tired old coach, find a young up and comer, and you could have the 49ers next season.

     

    Who says we have the wrong man? Who says we have talent? I see a roster completely devoid of talent. You have castoffs from other teams and free agent pickups starting all over this roster. That's not exactly a roster stacked with talent. We're building through the draft, that much is a fact that Buddy has stated repeatedly. That takes time, but it's the right formula for long term success.

     

    Keep Buddy and Chan, get a new Def Coord, add more talent through the draft and some veteran defensive leadership through free agency.

  4. Bring in people with enough clout and the new ownership will embrace them. Throw enough money at a problem and it will be resolved. The real reason top tier people don't come here is because RW isn't willing to pony up the dough that it will take to bring those guys in, not because he's old. I'm not buying that.

     

     

    Yeah, cuz that's working so well for the Sabres. :rolleyes:

  5. This^^

     

    Wow, I expected more integrity from HW on this one? My gawd it's not like he actually said what the media said he said..

     

    stay strong against PC folks, it is going to kill our country if it hasn't already..

     

    Tim-

     

    +1

     

    This is just typical media sensationalism. His words were taken out of context and blown way out of proportion. He obviously wasn't PC in the analogy used, but the point was to draw a comparison to polar opposites. Typical media digging for a story that doesn't exist without a care in the world how their TWIST on the story is going to affect another person's life.

  6. I live out of town and sports for my kids keeps me away from the TV on Sunday afternoons. So, I subscribe to NFL Rewind. You can watch the game in it's entirety in Full HD on your computer after the last game is played on Sunday. I can't watch live anyway, so this is a great solution for me.

  7. I wouldn't read too much how raiders passing game looked against Broncos as raiders were holding alot of there weapons out as they didn't want anyone of them to get hurt with the bad weather.

     

    HOMER ALERT, HOMER ALERT!!

     

    Did you seriously just say that? Do you honestly think that any NFL team would be arrogant enough to think they could "hold out" their weapons so they wouldn't get hurt in a division game? Cmon Son.

  8. If you expect me to express my beliefs, then back down from them, its not happening. Prove me wrong and I'll be the 1st to admit it.

     

    Nobody is going to convince me giving the ball up 20 times in 13 games is a good thing and I'm willing to bet Fitzpatrick and Chan Gailey would tell you the same thing, coaches preach about protecting the football...

     

    But this was not your argument. You said, "I just showed you a direct correlation between winning football games/Championships and winning the give away take away battle. Fitz gives you the turnovers without the TD's needed to over come them."

     

    I just proved you wrong by citing last years stats. Fitz didn't turn the ball over more than he scored TD's in 2010 and from the stats I showed from some of the most prominent QB's in the history of the game, there is no reason to believe that trend will suddenly reverse in 2011/12.

     

    As far as I'm concerned, your argument is busted.

  9. As I told Coach earlier, of this I have no argument, I'm hoping Fitz will get better and I'm rooting for Fitzpatrick to get better...

     

     

    Really? All I see is a guy carrying a pitchfork and a flaming torch. You haven't made a single argument here except that Fitz sucks and he turns the ball over too much and as a result the Bills will suck. I think I have just shown you that Fitz had a very respectable td to int ratio last year. As history has shown in the stats I provided, most QB's turn the corner around their 3rd or 4th year as a starter. Some longer, depending on the quality of the team around them. You are using career stats to justify a very weak argument. There is no reason to believe that Fitz won't continue to improve as a QB this year and will do an even better job scoring TD's and limiting INT's. You are not debating as you say, you are trying to drive home your cynical viewpoints... with a sledgehammer.

     

    Shovel

  10. In 138 Game starts Drew Brees scored 235 TD's

     

    In 160 Game starts jim Kelly scored 237 TD's

     

    WORD!

     

    You spin the stats to make your argument. Try this on for size... most QB's take time to develop. QB's rarely have a profound impact in their first few years.

     

    Year TD INT

     

    Ryan Fitzpatrick

    2008 8 9

    2009 9 10

    2010 23 15

     

    Drew Brees

    2002 17 16

    2003 11 15

    2004 27 7

     

    Troy Aikman

    1989 9 18

    1990 11 18

    1991 11 10

    1992 23 14

     

    Terry Brandshaw

    1970 6 24

    1971 13 22

    1972 12 12

    1973 10 15

     

    Joe Namath

    1965 18 15

    1966 19 27

    1967 26 28

    1968 15 17

     

    Steve Young

    1985 3 8

    1986 8 13

    1987 10 0

    1989 8 3

    1990 2 0

    1991 17 8

    1992 25 7

    1993 29 16

    1994 35 10

     

    Look how long it took Steve Young to develop. Yeah, he sucked!

     

    You can spin stats to suit just about any argument, get off your bashing bandwagon and enjoy our Buffalo Bills!

     

    Shovel

  11. I didn't think that Eric Pears did a terrible job last week. Let's give the guy a chance to see what he can do before we completely reshuffle the deck. Continuity is key when talking offensive line. You don't get that by moving guys new to their positions around. Leveitre was moved to give Rinehart a chance to show what he can do. No worries with Leveitre stepping right back in and picking up where he left off after you give Rinehart his shot. But, start juggling the new guys and you got issues that could last 1/2 a season or more.

  12. Well, I was serious and yes I do like to stir the pot. Let me ask you this genius. If Williams is playing the other DE (which he hasn't at all because he's been playing NT alongside Dareus) who is gonna play DT? And yes I'm dead serious about trading away Willoams in another year or so if Carrington, Troupe, Jasper, Heard, Moats, Batten all work out and improve at thier positions. I'm a realist and I personally believe that getting rid of players approaching the 30 year mark in thief lives is ALWAYS a good thing unless your talking about a probowl QB. And especially if youbcan get a 1st rounder for that aging player. Football players rarely last past 30 and when they do, thier skills decline rapidly.

     

    Obviously there are a lot of "IFs"in that post. I see your point. New England does it all the time and have used it as a way to stockpile draft picks for years. If you draft well and build primarily through the draft, you will get to a point where trading away aging "stars" isn't out of the question. If done right, you keep flipping aging players for high draft picks, keep raising the bar on the overall talent level of the team and always have a fresh stream of talent developing in the wings. I think we're a few years away from that luxury though.

  13. What amazed me watching these clips is the number of times that he looks unblocked... then I watched them again. You can't block this kid with 1 and double teams only slowed him down a little bit.

     

    That being said, it's easy to be impressed by a highlight reel... I didn't see this kid play during the season. Was he this dominant all the time?

  14. You make some decent points... I think most draftniks and the media talking heads tend to isolate on one source to acquire players at the exclusion of all others. In addition to the draft, we still have FA and we still have trade possibilities... and don't forget we picked up some pretty good prospect OL from practice squads this season.

     

    I'm sure that Buddy and Chan have a comprehensive plan to acquire the players they think will elevate the talent level on this team. It's not just going to be through the draft. Besides the fact that second, third and fourth rounders are typically not impact players as rookies.

     

    I'm not familiar enough with all of the QB's who have declared to pass judgment. But, if our football guys think that there is a legitimate franchise QB at #3, then I see nothing wrong with going QB and addressing the other areas of need in later rounds and/or through other means.

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