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JimBob2232

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  1. If you are George Bush and you have to decide between shutting down a base in NY or one in a swing state like Arkansas or Nevada, who do you think is going to keep their base and who is going to lose theirs?

     

    Correct me if im wrong, but Yucca mountain is in nevada is it not? If your argument held any water, Yucca Mountain would be in NY or California.

     

    Republican votes will not count in New York, and Democratic votes will not count in Tennessee. Independent votes carry no weight. Only selected votes count in Florida.

    So what you are saying is, that only the votes of 537 people in florida mattered in 2000? How wrong you are. If 100 people vote for something, and 90 vote against it, the outcome of the vote isnt decided by the 10 people who swung the election, but by the 91 people who voted in the affermative giving the plurality of the votes to their cause.

    To say republicans in NY have no vote is wrong. 2,403,374 people in NY voted for bush. Every one of those votes counted. 4,107,697 people voted for gore. If you are looking for votes that dont count, its the extra 1.7 million people who voted for Gore that had their votes not count.

     

    Further, it is possible, again depending on the numbers, for a candidate to get pretty well pasted in the popular vote and still win in the EC.

    Mathmatically possible, yes. However, Relative to the election being close and the candidates with the most popular votes losing the electoral college, this situation is much less likely.

     

     

    Oh, and BTW, this reform garbage that states like Colorado is trying to push through (and Maine and one other state I believe) is a joke. They are trying to make their electoral votes selected as a percentage of the popular vote in the state. You get 50% of the pop vote, you get 50% of the electoral votes. Sounds fair right? Wrong. Why would ANY candidate spend time in your state? Talk about your needs? The way our country is devided at MOST he could expect to win one electoral vote. You essentially take your state out of political play. Its a bonehead move to do if you are in a state legislative position.

  2. I take the opposite opinion here. I think the electoral college is a good and necessary part of our electoral process. What does need to be changed, is to eliminate the human portion of the electoral college, and require by law that all electors vote for the candidate chosen by the electorate.

     

    The first thing you have to remember about the electoral college, it is highly unlikely that a person will win the popular vote, but lose the electoral college UNLESS the election is very close (as it was in 2000). What the electoral college offers is a clear and decicive way to pick a winner of the election, should the race become extremely tight.

     

    People point to the mess in florida in 2000 as a reason to eliminate the electoral college. In fact the exact opposite is true. Without the electoral college process, there would have been recounts not only in Florida, but in every state and county in the union. It would have been complete chaos.

     

    Moreso, there have been 53 elections since George Washington was elected. Only 3 times has there been a discrepancy between the electoral college and the popular vote. The electoral college provided a clear winner. On at least 12 other occasions, the popular vote was close enough to have the election contested, and a nationwide recound, such as we saw in florida, would persue.

     

    And I don't want to be held hostage by a majority of one party in ONE STATE who can swing an election, and give us the crap we have had over the past 4 years.

    If gore won Tennesee, he would be president, If he won Missouri he would have been president. Same with Nevada, New Hampshire, Ohio, washington and many other states. Its not ONE STATE that won this election for bush, but rather 50 states.

  3. Well, since we are comparing academic credentials, I have an BS in Chemical Engineering with a Master of Business Administration and am currently working as a Nuclear Engineer. I am a member of Tau Beta Pi (an engineering honor society). I dont know why this matters...but since you brought it up...

     

    The point im trying to make here, isnt that the media shouldnt be allowed to do what it does, nor is it that we need a new "reformed media" if you will. Instead I just wish that the majority of people would view particularly television media for what it is. Entertainment with a news backdrop. Its reality tv programming. We might as well as viewers, vote off the story we dont like every week so we dont have to hear it again.

     

    I agree with you on print media. It is much better. Radio is also reasonable, but you have to weigh through the partisan twist everything on radio is exposed to. Though usually you know the twist the host is trying to place on a particular story. The problem is, people like dan rather who are partisans, and who are actively campaing and raising money for the democratic party, then come on and do the nightly news and try to be fair. Its not just dan rather either. Tom brokaw was even on some peoples list to be Kerrys VP choice! But I digress...

     

    I understand editorial decisions are made. They have to be. Editorial decisions are based first on what people want to hear. Then on what people need to or should hear. For every story about Lacy Peterson or Kobe Bryant, there is a story about something more important and meaningful to our everyday life. Something more worthy of making the editorial cut, but it wont because people want to know whats going on in those stories. People mistake these stories for news. It should be on E! or Entertainment Tonight. Unfortunatly people who want the real news will not find it on CBS, NBC, ABC, MSNBC, or dare I say, Fox News.

     

    This leads to an uninformed electorate, who is tasked with making some very very tough decisions here in the next couple months. People like you and me, who take the time to become informed on a plethora of key issues, can formulate an educated opinion on tax reform, Iraq, social security, health care, etc. But people who rely on the alphabet channels do not have access to the kinds of information they need to make these vitals choices. I just wish they would realize they are being fed a bunch of garbage, and go out looking for their own answers to issues instead of relying on Dan Rather to tell them what to think. I hope this scandal will go a long way to helping this cause.

  4. OK, Jimbob. Why don't you put the blindfold on and reach out to have Ari Fleisher and Dan Bartlet lead the way.

     

    Media is only as good as the sources who come forward. CBS got taken hook, line, sinker. It happens when you think someone's being square with you. We thought Bush was being square with us in his Saddam-is-getting-uranium-from-Africa speech. His source for this was Chalabi(?) who is in jail for myriad offenses.

     

    To blame all media (and especially since this is TV news, which let's face it....) for a CBS schlump is dangerous for our democracy. That's what the first amendment was for; so we'd be able to learn all of the facts. Guess what? The first amendment worked here. Those Framers really knew what they were doing, huh?

     

    And just b/c they're retracting it, doesn't mean that Bush was Audie Murphy reincarnate. Did he get favors b/c of his name? Pro-bab-ly. A lot of guys did. Does it matter? Not all that much. Maybe we can have some real debate about the future.

     

    I am not quite sure why the antaganizing lead...we seem to be on the same page here. I am all for the first amendment and freedom of the press. However, i view the vast majority of the media as entertainment rather than a news source at this point. I base this on the over sensationalizing of stories for the sole purpose of increasing ratings.

    This is not a conclusion I came upon because of the Dan Rather story alone. But one over many years of watching the news. Remember all the shark attacks one year? It was no more than any other year. Why the media frenzy over it? One year they went crazy with child abductions. Was it more than normal? No. But it got the attention of the public and they ran it to death. Then there was the disease era. Remember smallpox, sars, west nile and monkeypox? What happened to them? did they just go away? No. Its just not a story that gets ratings anymore.

    The urge to be the first one supporting a story, superseeds the underlying accuracy of the story. This is wrong.

    While I fully support the media, and freedom of the press, the press is not doing its intended job. They are giant profit producting corporations producing television programs, with the sole purpose of making money for their stakeholders. While I am also not against the profit motive, the two collide, and do a net disservice to the american people.

  5. Security issues with Nuke Plants and Shipping Yards are reported at least once a week by major news stations.

     

    Are these the same major news stations who report on forged documents. Are these the same major news stations that called the 2000 election wrong, not once but twice? Are these the same major news stations that are more concerned with sensationalizing the news and gaining ratings than reporting the news? I think it is.

     

    I hate to say it, but it almost seems as if you cant even trust the news in this country anymore.

  6. along with other republicans I am now joining the republicans for Kerry group since we need a different approach to Iraq.

     

    You are entitled to your opinion and your vote, but before you jump completely onto the kerry bandwagon, ask yourself, what exactly will he do? Will he, as I suspect, sit by idlely, and let iraq melt into civil war, causign unrest in the entire middle east while he tries to gain the support of France and the rest of Europe. Or will he somehow magically find the kahones to go in there, remove al-sadr and the rest of the insurgents, and win the peace, and bring our boys home without another soldier leaving blood on the sand?

     

    Ironically, re-electing bush will likely be the medicine we need here, because after he is re-elected, he will not be subjected to re-election again, and can do what needs to be done, rather than the politically correct thing.

     

    That said, I would urge you to take a look at third party candidates this election. There are some good candidates out there, specifically in the libertarian party. We need to eliminate the 2 party system. Even if you conclude that kerry is the medicine we need in these times, he is not the cure. The cure is a more open and honest debate by all candidates from all parties and all walks of life. Democracy is not a monopoly.

  7. George Bush said Iraq had WMD. So did his son. So did Clinton, Gore, Tony Blair, Schroeder and Chirac. So did putin and virtually every world leader, and member of the US congress. My opinion still stands that Iraq had and possesed WMD, and somehow managed to either hide them really really well, or ship them out of the country (more likely). Bush or Gore, the same scenario would exist provided that Gore actually went into Iraq, to confront the threat that WMD posed to the US.

     

    I think God George W. Bush was elected in 2000. Gore simply would not have been strong enough to handle the post 911 events with such leadership and conviction. I do not believe gore would have handled this war in the manner it needs to be handled; taking the fight to the enemy before they take the fight to us. This is my problem with Kerry as well. He is too worried about what the world thinks of us, rather than our national security. I do not think the world hates us for one. Russia is now talking about pre-emptive strikes against chechnyan rebels to protect their own interests. Let the terrorists strike berlin paris and see if france and germany change their opinion. I bet it would.

     

    If Bush or Gore spent millions of dollars and thousands of lives in Iraq, my criticism would be the same. Not because this war wasnt necessary, it is. But because of the way it has been run. Make no mistake about it, Iraq is a mess. Bush is running for election, and is afraid to take the necessary actions in iraq. WHY IS AL SADR STILL ALIVE? We had him. We had him trapped, and let him go because bush was too afraid to take out the mosque he was in. Political pressure has forced bushs hand in iraq, and for that he is to blame. However as i stated earlier, gore wouldnt even be there. So its a half-assed effort, or no effort. Great choice huh?

    I'll give you the borders-I'm mad at that, but how do you know about our nuke plants or shipping yards?

    Well, i'll tackle this, since I live a mile from one of the largest shipping yards on the east coast, and coincidentally work in a nuclear plant. More can be done. I see great strides being taken (at the nuc plant), more emphasis on checking IDs, reinforced barriers, more drills are taking place, counter-terrorism briefings and more armed guards to name a few. From outside, you wouldnt notice many of these changes, but the workforce is far more prepared to deal with such an attack.

    As far as the shipping yard goes, I have seen no visable changes, but I know they have spent millions of dollars on radiation detection equipment, suervaillance cameras, fence improvements, etc. Yes, more can be done. Is bush the right guy? Probably not. Is kerry? Doubtful.

     

    The point here is that, while I did vote for GWB in 2000, I will not be voting for him in 2004. I will also not be voting for kerry. I will be voting for a yet to be decided 3rd party candidate. Not because i think they can win, but because I feel we need to end this 2 party monopoly on our political system. It is detrimental to our country.

  8. Newsflash! Every one of them is right! The problem is, what is kerry going to do about it? He has less than 2 months to formulate a legitimate plan, and sell it to the american people. He should have done this long ago. Those are all good reasons not to vote for bush...but why change course and vote for kerry?

  9. Part of the issue here is that Dan Rather is percieved to have alot more credibility than Brit Hume. Walk down the street and ask people if they know who brit hume is. Then ask them about dan rather. Brit, though no less of a journalist, does not have the name recognition, and therefore could be criticized at will by the media. You cant take dan rather to the woodshead, as much as he may deserve it, because the american people have been watching him for 95 years, and have grown to a certain comfort and trust level with him. This certainally damages his reputation, but he wont be destroyed over it in the way a brit hume could be.

     

    I will say this though. Democrats are much better at crying loudly when things dont go their way. Trent lott makes one comment, gets taken out of context, and next thing you know its all over everywhere, meanwhile Senator Robert Byrd was a former leader in the KKK, and nothing ever gets said about that.

     

    I think, in some twisted way, behavior like this (forging of a letter, releasing bush DWI records on the evening of the election, etc.), is expected from the democratic party. So the republicans treat it as the status quo. Meanwhile, the republicans are supposed to be the more "moral party", and whenever they do something even close to questionable, the democrats make sure to blow it up in their face, in an effort to destroy their base.

  10. The DEMOCRATS nominated a moron? Guess they must have wanted to start even with Bush!

     

    If the democrats #1 concern was eliminating bush, there were better candidates to do so. Lieberman would be running away with this election. Gephart and Edwards would be giving bush a run for his money. Even a guy like wesley clark would be doing better than kerry. The fact is that the media and the establishment picked Kerry, and now they realize they have a very poor candidate.

     

    People are trying to decide who to vote against, not for. Its sad, but true. The reality is that Bush has bungled this war in iraq, and kerry has no vision or plan to get us out of it. The economy isnt as rosy as the bush people are portraying it to be, yet kerry has no plan to fix it. The republicans use scare tactics to try to scare the elderly into thinking they will lose medicare benefits. The democrats use scare tactics to try to scare families into thinking bush wants to re-initiate the draft.

     

    Its all a bunch of hooey, and I for one am sick of it. What happened to old school polititians? People like Zell Miller. People like Ronald Reagan. People like FDR?

    God First. America Second. Politics a distant third. Unfortunatly in todays society, Politics is first, america second and god a distant third.

  11. Funny how this one play changed everyones opinion on this board. Lets not boil ONE PLAY into a season.

     

    Last year at this time, we were coming off a 31-0 defeat of the patriots, emotions were high and people we reserving hotel rooms in new orleans. We catapaulted to #1 on ESPNs power chart...and then promptly finished 6-10. The reverse is just as likely to occur.

     

    I remain confident that the bills are a good team, and should make the playoffs.

     

    That said, there are some downfalls (i.e. the kicking game)

     

    TD has made his mistakes. Keeping Lindell, Hiring (and keeping) GW to name a couple, but overall, this team is good.

     

    TD has a problem of looking too far into the future. He is always looking 2-3 years ahead, and ignoring the problems of today. How else can you explain McGahee, Losman, Evans, the lack of a kicking game, etc. We play in the here and now and not 3 years from now.

     

    Ultimatly, this IS TD's team...he needs to be able to recognize his mistakes and rectify them. I think he did a marvelous job with the coaching staff this offseason, but still ignored key aspects of the team (Lindell!, Special teams, etc)

     

    There is NO REASON for this team NOT to be a playoff team. I like TD and alot of the things he has done here, but it may be time to cut the strings with him if the team doesnt get it done this year.

  12. Not the good ones.

     

    Ty Law- Best corner

    Richard Seymour- Top DE

    Tom Brady- Top 5 QB.

    Best Coach in the game

     

    Colts-

    Manning- Best QB

    Harrison- Best WR

    Vanderjack- Best Kicker

    Freeney- Top 5 DE

     

    Eagles

    McNabb- Top5 QB

    Owens- Top 5 WR

    Kearse- Top 5 DE

     

    These teams have clear cut Top 5 talent.

    We do not!

     

    So you have 3 DE's and 3 QBs listed right there. Where does this leave Vick, Cullpepper, McNair and Favre?

     

    If Kearse, Freeney and seymore are 3 of the top 5 DE's, where do strahan, Rice, Ogunleye, Taylor and Peppers fit in?

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